DPII's Unit Previews

[LAW_FREAK]

1) Make the unit with a modern elephant & with your suggestions

And on the topic of an elephant resource I vote yes

 

[Redking]

Yes, your "cataphract" anim seems very close. The footfalls look what's described.

Honestly, you could probably copy the AOK anims (which are apparently incorrect) and it would look fine. But I think what's wrong with that "cataphract" anim is exactly what Smoking Mirror says just below it: that the camel should be a more stable ride than the horse, or less jerky, as you put it. The rear of your camel seems to almost bob up.

To me it also seems like the camel is too small for the rider, or he's too big for it. The ratio of rider to camel in the AOK mameluke and camel rider both look right. In those anims the rider and the mount's head/neck sway forward and back rather than bob up and down, and it looks smooth.

- Redking

 

[Dom Pedro II]

I actually had enlarged the rider thinking that the rider was originally too small compared to the camel. But if it's the reverse, then that works too.

 

[nameless53]

As for you, Nameless, the man wanted to correct what he saw as a flaw. So what are you doing? Telling him to settle for mediocrity? Yeah, well, perhaps that's what you get from your Chinese proverbs, but from my "PBS nature shows", I gleaned something else, I suppose.
Go ahead and use his prior effort. If he wants to make it better what's it to you? And, btw, I DID post actual pictures of this gait, and reposted it again in this post, but you didn't know that because you're contributing to a discussion that you feel shouldn't exist.
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at the beginning, i only wondered why so much the detail, and gave my view. till now you still havent explained why... or was it the "why make animations at all if its" not -exactly- the way it should look?
again... im not telling it to fly or hop, but if it walks close enough move on from that part of it.
Yes, im telling him to settle from something no one will care or notice.
this is a waste of time. who is going to watch the camel's feet? DOES ANYONE IN HERE STARE AT THE ANIMALS FEET WHEN THEY MOVE? anyone?!

less jerky, size, and making it look real is one thing and blah-ect., but to copy one way of walking.. no, not that way.. like this like that exactly is another. considering he was draged back and forth between how this walks how that walks frankly your "film" didnt seem to help or due to it maybe wasnt noticed in the first place. what is it to me?
maybe i must repeat my first post on this a thousand time and tell it again...
its a waste of time. WHO CARES ABOUT THE WALKING HABBITS OF CAMELs? effort well wasted! seriously red/dom, .. when people download units for their game.. do they notice? if they do what do they say? wow.. the camel walks like a camel which is "xxx" compared to the horse.. that is what makes it amazing? they most likely DONT CARE, never notice, and if they do notice, (again.. its not flying through midair, or hopping, or swimming, but close enough to the point they can notice it walks like a 4 legged horse like thing.) the we exact walking habbits of camels, they pretty much just take it for granted or again.. dont really care.
im saying something that if he considers ok to him will save him work from a little something. i mean i sat here reading about how to make a camel walk right, not exactly flaws i expected him to be putting so much efforts into, purely ridiculous to ME so i decided to make a statment about it. if he wants to make it better, at the end it isnt anything for me to do about that. however, that isnt going to stop me from introducing some other side/my thoughts and neither will you.

and how the heck did asking (anyone) WHY the so much details get into this?
"I disagree..." certainly wasnt an answer i was looking for or would be acceptible in my mind.
if you just said "Dom really really really want to" ...well theres a good one.
but from the way he was getting pushed back and forth with this sure didnt seem he really really really enjoyed it.

 

[nameless53]

I actually had enlarged the rider thinking that the rider was originally too small compared to the camel. But if it's the reverse, then that works too.

not sure which one you enlarged in but the link with "here" lead to (back to?) that animation was close. (little less if u feel like it.)

 

[Dom Pedro II]

at the beginning, i only wondered why so much the detail, and gave my view. till now you still havent explained why... or was it the "why make animations at all if its" not -exactly- the way it should look?
again... im not telling it to fly or hop, but if it walks close enough move on from that part of it.
Yes, im telling him to settle from something no one will care or notice.
this is a waste of time. who is going to watch the camel's feet? DOES ANYONE IN HERE STARE AT THE ANIMALS FEET WHEN THEY MOVE? anyone?!

less jerky, size, and making it look real is one thing and blah-ect., but to copy one way of walking.. no, not that way.. like this like that exactly is another. considering he was draged back and forth between how this walks how that walks frankly your "film" didnt seem to help or due to it maybe wasnt noticed in the first place. what is it to me?
maybe i must repeat my first post on this a thousand time and tell it again...
its a waste of time. WHO CARES ABOUT THE WALKING HABBITS OF CAMELs? effort well wasted! seriously red/dom, .. when people download units for their game.. do they notice? if they do what do they say? wow.. the camel walks like a camel which is "xxx" compared to the horse.. that is what makes it amazing? they most likely DONT CARE, never notice, and if they do notice, (again.. its not flying through midair, or hopping, or swimming, but close enough to the point they can notice it walks like a 4 legged horse like thing.) the we exact walking habbits of camels, they pretty much just take it for granted or again.. dont really care.
im saying something that if he considers ok to him will save him work from a little something. i mean i sat here reading about how to make a camel walk right, not exactly flaws i expected him to be putting so much efforts into, purely ridiculous to ME so i decided to make a statment about it. if he wants to make it better, at the end it isnt anything for me to do about that. however, that isnt going to stop me from introducing some other side/my thoughts and neither will you.

and how the heck did asking (anyone) WHY the so much details get into this?
"I disagree..." certainly wasnt an answer i was looking for or would be acceptible in my mind.
if you just said "Dom really really really want to" ...well theres a good one.
but from the way he was getting pushed back and forth with this sure didnt seem he really really really enjoyed it.

nameless, it will be okay to me when it's as accurate as can be. If it gets to the point that people think the legs aren't being lifted high enough or too high, I'm not going to bother with that. But it's important to me that I get the general movements correct. And this isn't just for this unit. It's for all of the camel units that I will do and those that I will redo. So in that case, it's worth spending the time on.

Besides, I have to spend a lot of time just to make the thing look like it's not suffering from mad cow disease.

 

[nameless53]

thats cool,
i just felt annoyed when you were being diverted back and forth from one type of camel walk to another again.

 

[Kal-el]

not gone yet, mix up with the paper work at the office and my ship date has been delayed. aargh!!!

this looks really cool, I hope you get the run down correctly. just google camel racing, you will get all the pics you need.

 

[mrtn]

..
this is a waste of time. ...

Well, it's not your time, so there's no need to scream.

Dom, I suspect Redking knows more about camels than I do, I refer you to him.

 

[Dom Pedro II]

Dom, I suspect Redking knows more about camels than I do, I refer you to him.

Good... because if I follow his advice, it's less work for me!

Kal-El! He's back! It's his ghost!

 

[Sword_Of_Geddon]

Any progress on those African Units Dom?

 

[Dom Pedro II]

Actually, not so much... I've been focusing on other stuff.

 

[Sword_Of_Geddon]

Anything Good?

You must be happy that the Flying Tiger's off your plate.

 

[Dom Pedro II]

I can sleep at night now...

And basically, I've been working on the camel and the Top Secret project mostly.

EDIT: Also the Macabee. But the animations are basically done for that, but I had to re-render the whole thing...

A very stupid mistake on my part left me with civ-colors popping up all over the stupid thing...

 

[Sword_Of_Geddon]

Those African Units(Just the Spearman and Musketman actually) are badly needed, finish them soon okay? And if you need to you can recycle animations from some of your already completed units(How many ways can you stab with a spear anyway?)

 

[Goldflash]

Dom, are you making a mounted Hwarng?

 

[ShiroKobbure]

i would like to see korean swordsman are you making that? ^ ^;;

 

[Dom Pedro II]

I hadn't planned on it... but if you provide some pictures, we'll see what happens.

 

[Goldflash]

You talking to Shiro or me?

 

[Dom Pedro II]

You talking to Shiro or me?

Whoa! I didn't even see your post, my friend. No, I don't need pics of Hwarangs. I already know what those fugly muthas look like...

And maybe.

Shiro: I need pics of Korean swordsmen.