[DRN-001] BtS Any Which Way You Can

[Luv_Muffin]

I've been lurking, and have been enjoying the game thus far.
A word of encouragement, do not be afraid of the war you have decided on in advance. I believe you are well prepared. It's when the AI declares war on you once you click "end Turn" to begin your round that things can get exciting.


It's been a lot of fun reading the progress of this game in particular. You have a colorful team and the game is well played.
Good luck!
*Powers up lurker cloaking device*

 

[Sorceresss]

We will have a big stack of grens and cannons [...], Sorceress. You can handle it.

You think I can handle big stacks of grens & cannons !?!

 

[doronron]

I have faith in you, Soceresss. You'll do great.

 

[njorls]

Goal for the round is to build up army and galleons for upcoming war.

Shared Turn: (299 Turns, 1395 AD) Looks like Azaris only played 14 turns. Will play 16 to 315. Sell Divine Right to Zara for 210 gold and world map, for

upgrades. Upgrade 1 galley to galleon.

Turn 1: Give Gunpowder to Roosevelt. Hopefully he can deal with barbs on his own now. But probably not.

Turn 3: Mil Trad is in, choose Steel for cannon. Roosevelt converts to Hinduism.

Turn 4: Check to see where Statue of Zeus is, Brennus built it, not sure what city

Turn 5: Zara wants to trade world map. As ours is a lot more complete than his, I decline. We shouldn't trade world maps with anyone anymore. Deer give +8 food in Atlanta.

Turn 8: Behold, Catherine's ugly boyfriend:

Can't figure out where he is.

Trade Military Tradition to Roosevelt to get back in Caste System and Free Religion. It was the only way, I don't have a lot of experience with vassals. We want him in free religion and not in emancipation right?

Trade Music and Drama to Catherine for Banking. I pass on Mercantilism, we need the money from trade routes. Research at 50% with 13gpt surplus.

Turn 10:
Privateer done, will go create mischief on Hammurabi.

Turn 12: 2 grens and a treb get to the barb city. I gamble getting Treb a free promotion at 80% odds but lose. 2 grens clean up easy. I keep the city, will gift to Roosevelt next turn.

Privateer pillages all fishing boats outside of Babylon, no sign of any navy response

Turn 13: Steel is in, research Economics for free merchant and trade route.
Some prisoner event, take +1 relations with Roosevelt. I figured more espionage points would be pointless.

Nice! Source of Silver discovered near Seattle! Sent some workers to road it up.

Great Prophet born in Washington. Can decide what to use him for, golden age or settle.

Privateer healing in ocean, I suggest doing more pillaging once he's full health.

Turn 14: Miami asks to join American Empire. I heard this was annoying, don't do this or it will become a vassal city.

*edit*: turn off advisor pop ups to disable this.

Load 2 grenadiers and our medic 2 chariot to come back for the war.

Turn 15: Roosevelt seems he can hold his own now. We can get the level 3 chariot back now. We can upgrade it to a Curassiar.


I suggest only building units in Washington. Cannon and Grenadiers. Don't tie up our best production city with wonders.

I don't think we're ready for war yet, need more troops.

 

[Sorceresss]

Got it at 10:19 PM (Montreal/NY time), about 40 minutes after it was posted.

Sorry : Going to bed to read some Stephen King. Am too tired to focus on the complexity of managing an empire.

I will play my turns tomorrow morning.

EDIT > Finished at 09:55 AM. Will post analysis + save (below) before 10:40.

 

[azaris]

I forgot to mention we have worker sleeping in Houston. Suggest you gift him to Roosevelt.

Cathy has too much on her hands. She could be planning to attack almost anyone except Brennus. That includes us and Roosevelt.

I agree we should stop building wonders for now, but the SoL is one we want to get if we can.

 

[njorls]

I remember seeing that worker in Houston. I thought it was Roosevelts and was wondering why he was never doing anything. Sorceress, if you could gift him to Roosevelt that would be great.

 

[Sorceresss]

T.315 (1475 AD - njorls's ending) :

Our Treasury has 636 gold at a 50% research-rate.
Going up to 60% RR would create a significant deficit each turn.
Gifted Worker at Houston as ordered by the 2 previous posters.

T.316 (1480 AD - My first turn) :

316.1 > Stalin declares war on Hammy !
316.2 > Cathy declares war on Hammy !
316.3 > Hammy upgrades to Theocracy.
316.4 > I do not touch anything that njorls has left.

T.317 (1485 AD - T2) :

317.1 > Stalin (annoyed) wants me to declare war on Hammy. I refuse : no declaration of war against anybody during my reign !
317.2 > Statue of Liberty wonder finished in Washington.
I select Theatre (only 1 turn).
317.3 > Galleon finished at Miami.
I select Barracks (only 7 turns).

T.318 (1490 AD - T3) :

318.1 > Economics research (set by njorls) finished.
I select Scientific Method (only 8 turns).
318.2 > Theatre finished in Washington.
I select Courthouse (only 4 turns).
318.3 > Grenadiers finished in San Francisco.
I select Barracks (only 5 turns).
318.4 > Adam Smith the Great Merchant born in Washington !
I do not know what is best to do with the guy : I leave him to the will of the Pig.

T.319 (1495 AD - T4) : Nothing special to do.

T.320 (1500 AD - T5) :

320.1 > Grenadiers finished in Boston.
I select Jail (only 6 turns).
I'm starting to build jails to prepare for an eventual war.
320.2 > Theatre finished in Seattle.
I select Jail.

T.321 (1505 AD - T6) :

321.1 > Market finished in Los Angeles.
I select Barracks.
321.2 > Brennus has completed the Notre-Dame cathedral wonder.

T.322 (1510 AD - T7) : Washington has finished Courthouse. I select Jail.

T.323 (1515 AD - T8) :

323.1 > Grenadiers finished in New York.
I select Theatre (only 6 turns).
323.2 > Oxford University finished in Chicago.
I select...Jail. (I should have done a Colosseum first : Chicago has a slight unrest situation.)
323.3 > Grenadiers finished in Philadelphia.
Jail !
323.4 > Galleon finished in Atlanta.
Jail !!
323.5 > Barracks in San Francisco.
The gay community, there, asks for...Library !
323.6 > A message announces that our civ has reached 20 million of population. Great : even more potential victims for my...jails.

T.324 (1520 AD - T9) : Barracks in Miami. I select Theatre (only 8 turns).

T.325 (1525 AD - T10) : Barracks in L.A. I select Theatre (8 turns).

T.326 (1530 AD - T11) :

326.1 > Scientific Method researched.
I select Replaceable Parts (only 7 turns).
326.2 > Jail finished in Washington.
I select Colosseum (only 3 turns).
(I don't want to tie-up pigswill with long-term projects.)
326.3 > Jail finished in Boston.
I select Colosseum (only 4 turns).
326.4 > OIL discovered near San Francisco.

T.327 (1535 AD - T12) : Nothing special.

T.328 (1540 AD - T13) : Nothing special.

T.329 (1545 AD - T14) :

329.1 > Colosseum finished in Washington.
I select Walls (because it's just 2 turns).
329.2 > Theatre finished in New York.
I select Walls (quickest item on the list).
329.3 > Jail finished in Seattle.
I select Colosseum (one of the quickest items).
329.4 > Theatre finished in Los Angeles.
I select Walls (only 4 turns).
329.5 > Isaac newton the Great Scientist is born in Chicago !
I leave him to pigswill's care.

T.330 (1550 AD - T15, my ending) : Colosseum in Boston. I select Walls (3 turns) : pigswill can change that.

CONCLUSION :

1. My predecessor left a Treasury of 636 gold at 50% RR.
I leave my successor a Treasury of 1643 gold at 50%.
2. I leave my successor 2 Great Persons to invest as he sees fit !
3. I leave my successor only 3 turns of Research on my last project.
4. No city is tied-up in a long-term production project.
5. I have not declared a war and have not managed any military operation.
6. I have not done any change in the Spy ops sector.
7. I have not moved our fleets : did not know what to do with them.
8. Chicago has a morale unrest problem. I should have built a Colosseum first, but Jail will be finished soon.

SAVE (posted at 10:52 AM)> http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/66970/MDR_AD-1550.CivBeyondSwordSave

 

[doronron]

316.1 > Stalin declares war on Hammy !
316.2 > Cathy declares war on Hammy !

Yes! YES!

If you could see me right now, I'm rubbing my hands in glee and cackling.

 

[Sorceresss]

If you could see me right now, I'm rubbing my hands in glee and cackling.

Umm...I'm not sure I would want to see that !

 

[doronron]

Umm...I'm not sure I would want to see that !

You're safe.

 

[Sorceresss]

Now that Hammy is at war with 2 civs, do you anticipate to join the fray relatively soon ?

I built jails to reduce war unrest in our cities, for that eventuality.

 

[azaris]

I would've built mostly grens, but then again it wasn't my turnset.

Russia vs. Babylonia will hopefully be a phony war, but in case it isn't we must beware that Hammy vassalizes himself to Cathy. That would mean a juggernaut right on our doorstep. Then again the AIs are so hopelessly behind in tech that we could just assemble an invasion fleet and basically sail it wherever we want and take any capital we'd like.

Let's do that, the capital thingy.

 

[doronron]

Capital idea, AZ. After Pigswill's and Yena's turnsets, I'm curious to see what the state of the world will be.

 

[njorls]

I agree with Azaris. We have some great people stored up that could do another golden age (Polilce State, Vassalage, Theocracy) pretty fast.

 

[pigswill]

We have actually got 5 GP stored up. At this stage of the game lightbulbs are beginning to lose their power. Academies would be potentially useful. Trade missions are relatively valuable. Golden Age would also be useful.

We're at the stage where we can basically afford to do anything. But what do we do?

 

[Sorceresss]

I would've built mostly grens, but then again it wasn't my turnset.

Sorry...but I am not a warmonger. I built jails, though, to prepare for possible unrest problems in a protracted war you guys might want to conduct. Chicago, for example, is already experiencing a sensitive morale situation.

 

[pigswill]

For fairly short lived wars you can get by with theatres and running culture at a decent percentage for the duration of the war. Long term wars its probably best to wait for fascism and combine jails, rushmore and police state.

 

[njorls]

Yeah, coloseums and theaters before jails in my book. The latter 2 help during peacetime as well by giving +1

As for what to do next, I vote we need to leverage Charismatic a little better. The part about getting promotions faster.

Which is a roundabout way of saying

 

[doronron]

Don't forget that Jails generate espionage points and allow for spy specialists in the city they're built. Also useful in peace time!