DS3 - The secret war

[Dark Sheer]

@ Killer : Meldor has already answer about the army.

@ Meldor : No worries. I see Shadow Warrior army in my own SP game all the time. Of course the army is from the AI. By the way, somehow you can't see the hidden unit under the new patch. One of our Shadow Warrior was killed by another Shadow Warrior and I can't see the unit it was fighting.

@ All : We need to watch out for possible Shadow Warrior attack from the AI. If our unit is attacked/killed/captured, then the Shadow Warrior will still be in that tile come our turn. The unit lost its movement point after attacking as it has only one move. So we can still kill the unit (and recapture lost unit if our attacking unit is also a Shadow Warrior)

 

[Dark Sheer]

One think I just realize after reading about the new patch and also from my turns. There is no road bonus for desert square. That means we can't build road on desert. Which means no one will have access to saltpeter and oil in the desert!

Looks like we are in for a long ancient war and whoever get Knight first will kick ass big time against Spearman.

However, that is still another problem....oil will be scarse as we will have no access to oil in desert as well! And if Tundra also has no road bonus then no access to oil on Tundra as well. And that means only one thing, no tank and modern armor! Its going to be fun slugging in out with Infantries and Artillery! Woohoo!

Edit: Duh! Wrong thread. This is suppose to be mean for the K2 thread.

 

[Lt. 'Killer' M.]

DarkSheer: are you sure you used a version of the mod where there still was a bonus on desert???????

about the amry - forgot they loose the raod bonus - ****! Still, not too bad, meldor!

 

[Dark Sheer]

K2 has no road bonus for desert. Thats what I am trying to say.

 

[Lt. 'Killer' M.]

yep, I know, but does DS3 have one I meant? I am at turn No 17, and can't check, all roads on desert (which we have none of) might be older than the patch!

 

[meldor]

Can forest be planted in desert? If so, is it possible to plant forest and then road?

 

[Lt. 'Killer' M.]

nope (****)

 

[Lt. 'Killer' M.]

preturn: 290 AD - why are there so many elites fortified in the south?

move 'em! I want Perisa off our lands - i.e. I want to take Antioch

so we can easily contain Persia on the isthmus near Persian watcher, and I

want to hit all northern civs asap, as long as we can effectively use

shadow warriors. they'll have a hard time against Pikemen, so we better

hurry!

(1)=300 AD - Antioch taken, 1 Shadow Warrior lost, 1 settler captured

Persia under control, isthmus blocking force will be enlarged.

Shadow Warrior on mountain in Aztecia attacked and killed - ahwt happened

to the defence bonus????
Forbidden Palace can now be built, Russia starts Sun Tsu.

(2)=310 AD - counterattack on the Shadow Warrior that killed ours

successfull, but our 2nd SW is now at 1 HP

Bactra taken, no losses.

French start Sun Tzu...no counterattcks

(3)=320 AD - movements

some excessive trading (gems, 1170 Gold, Map and Literature to France for

Montheism + Feudalism), selling some old techs to everyone who has money.

Thebes starts Sun Tzus

a quick look at the map schows that neither Hamburg nor Moscow have the

necessary production to complete the War Academy before we do - so we will

probably get Sun Tzus YEEEEEEEEHA!

(4)=330 AD - will produce enough Shadow Warriors to move stacks of 5 into

enemy territory to blockade resources.

(5)=340 AD - moves

(6)=350 AD - moves. 1st team of 5 Shaodw Warriors heads of Aztec iron.

(7)=360 AD - moves. Order some Libraries and Cathedral where needed to

prop up science and especaially culture.

(8)=370 AD - passing by, our Shadow Warriors show the Aztec capital

defended by Spearmen - I attack, win win loss win win - and the town is

now defended by a Worker!!!!!! WTH?????

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads/WTH.jpg

(9)=380 AD - still no defender visible in Tenochtitlan - and it dawns on

me, SW is 3.2.1, so there's SW defending the town!!!! ****!

(10)=390 AD - ROP with France, they give World Map for it (they asked

for it!). Horsie defends against Shadow Warrior attack

Take Tula without losses, 4 workers. Horsemen concentrated in Bactra

whioch build Barracks for mass upgrade to knights

(11)=400 AD - our resource denial team has reached free space near

Calixtuawhatever and starts to heal. will go for the iron then, cut it,

then attack the next city if it doesn't have Pikes for defenders.

move SW towards Tzintzunzen.
Science upped, Chivalry in 6 turns with -12 gpt (60%)

(12)=410 AD - one of our SW near Aztec iron killed by SW attack. The

Aztecs can see our SW, they move workers into Tzintzuntzen

attack tzintzunzen and nearly get a heart attack, the first attacking SW

looses HP after Hp.... but wins trough and gets promoted.
The town is ours.

 

[Lt. 'Killer' M.]

(13)=420 AD - Russia sends a 2 spear combo in, declare war - OK
We ROP with Aztecs, ally with France for map, 530 Gold (ouch) and wines.

(14)=430 AD - Russia buy Persia into the war with France. Goos thing our

blockade is strong - there may be war with Persia soon. Chivalry sped up

at -96 per turn. WLTKD where it isn't already - love wars
Rostov taken by SWs (that were on the way anyway LOL)

(15)=440 AD - bought Barracks in Tula, moved 11 Horsemen there. Chivalry

next turn kill SW near Bactra

(16)=450 AD - Japan has been destroyed. Persia pay 30 Gold and World Map

for ROP
there is a sw battle near the Aztec iron...
cut the road to Russian Tlaxcala. Upgrade all knights, 670 Gold left.

(17)=460 AD - French start Sist Chap. - we might try to outrace them

still, but it is probably useless becasue they must be claso to finishing

SunTzus (which we will(!) get in 6). The Russians have taken Teotihuacan,

there's a Pikeman in it. Will send Knights there, SW to take SW defended

Calixtahuaca
kill one of Malinalcos defenders with SW. Science to 0.

(18)=470 AD - Xerxes the Idiot cancels the deal for Spices, we loose our

ivory. Well, 2:1 is too much!

Switch Elephantine to Forbidden Palace. Reason: good place for it, then we

can jump the Palace via leader to the northern half of the island. That

way, we can consolidate territory wins from the Russian war quickly. WE

should go up to the Frankfurt-Bremen line at least, take all Russians,

maybe kill off Germany, then turn on what remains of the Aztecs.

We luck out, the SW who attacked Malinalco last turn has been promoted and

now takes the city on his last HP!

We take Calixtahuaca loosing 1 SW and kill a third SW next to it (by

accident)

(19)=480 AD - Aztecs start Sistine. A wroker (BUG!!!!) attacks our SW near

calixt. and dies. The missing Indian Galley is seen near Rostov.

Our troops approach Teotihuacan, will take it next turn.

(29)=490 AD - we survive a Persian and an unknown SW attack.
Teotihuacan taken, two defenders, no losses.




general state: we are very good in military power, being the only to have

Knights. That should stay so, DO NOT SELL CHIVALRY!!!!!

If possible, use SWs to take Stuttgart and as much of Aztecia as possible.

Thwe Knights adn the SW army should suffice to advance to the

Bremen-Frankfurt line. There will be a leader I hope, rush Palace in

Frankfurt or take Berlin and rush Palace there!. If so, finish off

Germany entirely. Keep going as long as our military is goo, maybe we can

then grab Sixtinian Chapel off France.

Sun Tzus is around the corner, remember not to build Barracks!

Do not let culture fall, as soon as possible restict military production

in the south and build Libraries! Then universities and cathedrals!

have fun!

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads/DS3-490AD.zip

 

[Lt. 'Killer' M.]

eliminate Aztecia, remember to wait for the ROP to run out. remember also the alliance with France!

 

[Jersey Joe]

D9phoenix, I am going to be tied up with LK26 tonight and will not get to this game till tomorrow, so if you want to go ahead of me here I have no objections.

 

[Dark Sheer]

Dark Sheer
Lt. Killer M
D9phoenix (Now Playing)
Jersey Joe (Up Next)
docceh
Gastric ReFlux
meldor

I switch JJ with D9 as JJ is still on LK26.

 

[D9phoenix]

Ok got it.. and the no cd patch is finially out..

Though i just wanna say "Thanks to firaxis" stupid bastards. I had to reinstall my OS for a perticular reason, and now civ3 wont run because "its not registered"

We'll see if it runs with the no cd patch.. if it doesn't.. i will post back because im not going to spend the next hour or so reinstalling this stupid game before i goto work.

 

[D9phoenix]

Ok it didn't work... and im not going to reinstall this stupid game till tomorrow maybe.

 

[D9phoenix]

Alright.. got everything working again.. I will post back in alittle while.

 

[Dark Sheer]

I guess it will be just in time for JJ has he has just completed LK26.

 

[D9phoenix]

DS3 490ad 20 turns

Im completely amazed how much this game has changed.. WOW Good job guys.

Um.. we need engineering badly.. cranked science up to 60%, we will have it in 7 turns

Germany Worker-WM/27gp

First thoughts are to stop the war with russia/germany and go after the persian empire. But i decide to keep up the russian front as they are the strongest enemy atm.

(I)hum.. i thought SW's where supposed to be able to see each other ??

(1)500ad
(I)Thebes completes Sun Tzu's-SW
Teot FLIPS to the AZTECS.. IT IS ALL OUT WAR NOW!!!

(2)510ad
2 Knights lost taking Tlax (russian)- Rushed temple
Rushed temple at Cal

(I)How in the hell does a SW win against a fortified knight on a hill ??

(3)520ad
(I)Persians have SW attacking the gap now.

(4)530ad
Upgrade 31 spears for 620gp

Did some bartering.. sold some of our extra luxuries for around 300gp upfront and some minor gpt.

(5)540ad
LOL stuttgart is guarded by a SW army..

(I)France and India sign MA against Persia
SW army attacked a stack of SW, we lost one SW.. there army is down to about 13 hps

Switching as many cities as i can to markets, we need cash bad
Palace expand (2)

(6)550ad
France worker-25gp

(I)I REALLY HATE NOT BEING ABLE TO SEE SW's. ..

Discover engineering (we can finially ignore all those FREAKING rivers we have now!!!)
Science set to 10% for Invention.
FP completes -
Babylon completed Leo's (they got sistine's before this.. WE NEED CONTACT ASAP)

(8)570ad
Treasury back over 1k.. science cranked to 60% Invention in 7 turns.

(9)580ad
(10)590ad
Sign RoP with France (they initated)

(I)Russians want...peace.. tell them to piss off
Persia and France sign peace

(11)600ad
(I)English have been destroyed
Ok the Aztecs are really pissing me off.. they keep going after our cities With SW.

(12)610ad
Destroyed the Indians

(I)Germans want ..WM. i trade

(13)620ad
(I)Aztecs want to keep the RoP going.. hurm.. wonder why i accept for now.
Drop Alliance with France against russia.. that was a dead war.

(14)630ad
Launch 13 SW against Teno.. this should be fun.

(I)Discover Invention - Gun Powder in 7
Well i know where land is.. but our freaking galley's keep sinking before then can see it

(15)640ad
Teno has been LIBERATED from the EVIL AZTECS (ahh they lost there capitol )
Btw.. at the cost of 2 SW

Germany worker-28gp
Russia Peace/33gp/WM-Peace

(I)Sign RoP with persia for 8gp

(16)650ad
Rush Temple in Teno

(17)660ad
Launch 15 SW against Tlat (new capitol)

(18)670ad
Tlat captured at a cost of 2SW for every 1 Pike (they had 4) though we captured a settler also.

(19)680ad
LAND SIGHTED .... Hope to GOD that galley survives another TURN...

(20)690ad
WOOHOO the galley survived. Though i haven't actually sighted land yet.. we are back in coastal waters
Luanched 3 SW's with 4 in reserve and a few more on the way against Tex (new aztec capitol) You should be able to capture it next turn.

Gun Powder in 2 turns, just keep B-lining for Military Tradition. DO NOT BOTHER WITH ANY OTHER TECHS unless you buy them. We need CALAVARY ASAP!

Also i have several galley's making there way around the souther tip. Try and get them around to scout out that landmass to the West as quickly as possible.

DS3-690ad

P.S. Have to redownload Winzip.. as soon as its done i will post the file to the upload server. So don't freak if it isnt there right away

 

[Dark Sheer]

Dark Sheer
Lt. Killer M
D9phoenix
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meldor

D9 : The point of SW IS invisiblity.

 

[Lt. 'Killer' M.]

Originally posted by Dark Sheer
D9 : The point of SW IS invisiblity.

but the AI can see them, and our SW can't see enemy SW....

I'm sure you did everything right, DarkSheer, but the game is not working as it should, also on submarines (another thread OTed to that).

 

[Dark Sheer]

So I notice, I can see the SW in old patch but not in 1.29. Oh well.