Elaboration of the point system?

The points do 'expire'.
When?

I don't see how the new system is somehow hampering your freedom of expression.
It does since it make this place more methodical in discipline making and allow moderators more power to make this place institutionalized.

It's just doing what the Mods have had to do manually for years now and let's the user see all of their items as well. It actually provides the user more information than the older method.
It also intimidate and make the regular posters to refrain their thoughts on what contents that they write down more cautiously.That is what freedom is all about.

The only people in here that is complaining is not the posters but the moderators themselves.And frankly,i don't see any great posts from you guys (mods) that i consider enlightening or just downright pleasant to read.For some apparent reason,my fellow posters in CIV OT are the only one i care of reading,why should i give you guys respect when all you do is institutionize this place into another day-care that harbors nonsense and unecessary moderating.

Let us vote for who we can talk to or ignore (the person who makes a thread should be allowed to affirm or deny others in participating).
 
For some apparent reason,my fellow posters in CIV OT are the only one i care of reading,why should i give you guys respect when all you do is institutionize this place into another day-care that harbors nonsense and unecessary moderating.

To be honest IMO Civ OT is nothing but a daycare for the mods. Outside of it I don't see the problems like I do in OT. It's due to this that I very rarely ever step into OT, though after I do, I tend to quickly jump out.

Out of curiosity, statistically-wise what is the percentage of mod activity in OT compared to the rest of CFC?
 
Out of curiosity, statistically-wise what is the percentage of mod activity in OT compared to the rest of CFC?
the mods in OT are a little more active than the rest, i wonder why:mischief:
 
As sated before, it is currently set to 10 days.

It does since it make this place more methodical in discipline making and allow moderators more power to make this place institutionalized.
I still don't see how it's more power for the Mods. It's the same power, just better organized and provides more information.

The new system has nothing to do with the rules, they have not changed. It sounds as if you have a bigger issue to deal with.

It also intimidate and make the regular posters to refrain their thoughts on what contents that they write down more cautiously.That is what freedom is all about.

It even states in the forum rules:
Your rights to Freedom of Speech don't apply here.
You are welcome to have opinions. You are welcome to question certain subject matter posted on these forums. You are welcome to dislike a certain post or disagree with it. Though we typically condone people to express their opinions and ideas, we have the right to delete yours if necessary, should we consider it abusive.

Again, not at all related to the new system.

The only people in here that is complaining is not the posters but the moderators themselves.

The only thing I see in this thread are the Moderators trying to give answers to people about the new system that we are figuring out ourselves. The rest of the post has nothing to do with the new system.
 
Let us vote for who we can talk to or ignore (the person who makes a thread should be allowed to affirm or deny others in participating).
That won't come to pass. It would be elitist at the very least, and very easily lead to trolling and flame wars. Not to mention more spam as people create threads in which to not allow others to post in.

If someone's posts bother you, put them on your ignore list and/or ignore their threads.
 
@CartesianFart - If you feel that your right of free speech and freedom are being impeded, you shld, of course, go to another forum where they are being respected. Or set up one yourself.

:p
 
Indeed, the ability and willingness of the mods to make idiots shut up is one of the things that makes CFC great.
Are you the same Perfection that I know, ot just some imposter, because this does not sound right.
 
Are you the same Perfection that I know, ot just some imposter, because this does not sound right.

I'll leave you with this pearl of wisdom.

SMAC said:
If I determine the enemy's disposition of forces while I have no perceptible form, I can concentrate my forces while the enemy is fragmented. The pinnacle of military deployment approaches the formless: if it is formless, then even the deepest spy cannot discern it nor the wise make plans against it.

Sun Tzu
"The Art of War"​
 
To be honest IMO Civ OT is nothing but a daycare for the mods. Outside of it I don't see the problems like I do in OT. It's due to this that I very rarely ever step into OT, though after I do, I tend to quickly jump out.
Exactamundo!I have to agree with this and frankly it is not the posters themselves that is in a daycare but it is the mods interferences on a regular basis that make it into a daycare center.

Out of curiosity, statistically-wise what is the percentage of mod activity in OT compared to the rest of CFC?
Good question.What is the comparison of Civ OT vs the rest on the activity of moderator interferences?

I still don't see how it's more power for the Mods. It's the same power, just better organized and provides more information.
You don't see how it is more power for you and the others and then you say that better organizational tools and information?It seems that you are just saying how it isn't beneficial to you and then state that it is.:rolleyes:

The new system has nothing to do with the rules, they have not changed. It sounds as if you have a bigger issue to deal with.
Of course i have a issue with it or i wouldn't be here stating that i had a bigger issue about it.:rolleyes:

It even states in the forum rules:
Your rights to Freedom of Speech don't apply here.
You are welcome to have opinions. You are welcome to question certain subject matter posted on these forums.
Yep and thanks for reminding me.

You are welcome to dislike a certain post or disagree with it.
I never said or commented about "certain posts" or "disagreeing with it.":confused:

Though we typically condone people to express their opinions and ideas,
Interesting.Please explain why you say that one time that it is ok to express yourself freefully and then a few post later say that we(i guess "we" is what your inferring to as the "mods") "typically condone people their opinion and ideas?

we have the right to delete yours if necessary, should we consider it abusive.
This statement inspires me to ask you 2 question which i suspect have never been raised before.

1.Is it true that whenever an "abuse" occur,someone who is abused cries to you guys and ask if you can punish or investigate the so-called perpetrator of whatever if the abuse did indeed happen?
2.Is it true that whenever what you think an "abuse" is being made,you guys react without asking the person who is subject of the abuse if he or she is abused?

That won't come to pass. It would be elitist at the very least, and very easily lead to trolling and flame wars.
How can you figure?It does nothing to do with elitism and flame and trolling.It give the threadstarter the option to be its own moderator.If someone goes out of hand in the subject that is being discussed,let the thread starter moderate.

Not to mention more spam as people create threads in which to not allow others to post in.
Have you guys experimented with this?Allow thread makers to be their own boss.I know that i find it annoying when i open a thread or in a thread and don't care about the person making so-called flame and troll comments and all of the sudden...BAM!... you guys come out of nowhere and attack them without asking me if i want that person to be removed or kept in the discussion.

If someone's posts bother you, put them on your ignore list and/or ignore their threads.
Nobody bothers me but only the mods that do but i can't ignore you guys.

@CartesianFart - If you feel that your right of free speech and freedom are being impeded, you shld, of course, go to another forum where they are being respected. Or set up one yourself.
I did try going to another site but it is too late because i have already gotten attached to my fellow friends in Civ OT.It is too much of an readjustment to find new ones in other sites when i am quite fond and invested alot of time sharing and learning from others in Civ OT.:)

You know what?I consider this "abusing.":rolleyes:
 
Since it seems you have an axe to grind about your recent warning, feel free to PM the Mod involved to get more information.

Now, to make it official:
Moderator Action: Let's keep the focus of the thread on topic...
Please read the forum rules: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=422889

You don't see how it is more power for you and the others and then you say that better organizational tools and information?It seems that you are just saying how it isn't beneficial to you and then state that it is.
The benefit goes to the user. Before, if they didn't see the actual warning in a post, they may have had no real idea they were warned. Now they can easily see any warnings they have, exacly where it was and by whom.
 
I keep getting them even tho im not here.. its scary to come back!
 
How can you figure?It does nothing to do with elitism and flame and trolling.It give the threadstarter the option to be its own moderator.If someone goes out of hand in the subject that is being discussed,let the thread starter moderate.

Have you guys experimented with this?Allow thread makers to be their own boss.I know that i find it annoying when i open a thread or in a thread and don't care about the person making so-called flame and troll comments and all of the sudden...BAM!... you guys come out of nowhere and attack them without asking me if i want that person to be removed or kept in the discussion.
First, with freedom and control comes resposibility. I'm not sure everyone who posts here is responsible enough to exercise good judgement in acting as a moderator even if it their own thread.

Second, you incorrectly think that the mods have some great power over things here. Power is not only the ability to do things through direct action. If you learn what power is really all about and how to use it, you would stop with all these silly demands for more control of what others post at TF's website. :shake:
 
If everyone could behave themselves, there would be no need for a point system...or near as many mods...

In fact, why isn't that the case? I don't get it...we're all (mostly) sophisticated adults or teenagers who should have at least have some notion of how to behave...
 
Is there more than one type of infraction based on the seriousness of the offence? Ie. A yellow card for taking a thread off topic without "uncivilized behaviour," versus a red card for outright flaming?
 
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