eldar04 - Every Winner Loses

[eldar]

Tomorrow, tomorrow... always tomorrow. I've had a loose couple of weeks.

 

[soul_warrior]

ok bef. or should it be beef, seeing your new avatar?
expect to play tomorow.

 

[Beorn-eL-Feared]

Oh well now THAT's a faster reply than I would have thought. I thought you were just away. Guess that answers the dilemma.

 

[Beorn-eL-Feared]

lol@beef, I'll keep that one in mind

 

[eldar]

I think my devotion to Civ is slipping - too many other distractions, like Gordon Ramsay and Big Brother!

 

[Beorn-eL-Feared]

I just went through one of those, I can't blame anyone for that. We'll just have to calm our youngling rage for games a bit, and wait up 'til you post some turns Besides, we have much to do here in the academy *starts lacing his shoelaces all 4 together*.

 

[soul_warrior]

I just went through one of those, I can't blame anyone for that. We'll just have to calm our youngling rage for games a bit, and wait up 'til you post some turns Besides, we have much to do here in the academy *starts lacing his shoelaces all 4 together*.

and everyone keeps telling me im still behaing like a 10 year old.
so there

eladr04 sw 350ad-450ad

preturn thoughts - need infra. bad. get some.
preturn action is basically not needed. most builds are infra related and were at peace.
i decide to keep the minimal science spending to buildup cash for a rainy day.

1- Pusan market > lib,
Uskudar (an Ottoman city gets loads of free rax all over thier landmass)

2- now germany has to prove they are better than the turks and go build LEOS. i think we can expect some groovy action over there soon.
i decide we are helping mao here (fuzzy memory) and sell him inscense for 60g + 4gpt.
i also hurry a galley (40g). i REALLY want to meet the others.
also rush an aqua for 100g.
we can use that money in the grave, or enjoy it now.

3- seoul lib > heroic epic (we can change it, but it will be ready in 16), Taejon aqua > lib, Sariwon galley > lib,
china gets MONO. will mao change it for ENG? not likely and with noone to resell it to. no go yet.

4- Wonsan market > lib, Namp'o aqua > lib,
hurry 3 harbours in the west for 100g.

5- Pusan lib > court, Inch'on-Kaesong-Choju all harbour > galley,

6- start another suicide run due west.

7- FORBIDDEN PALACE is in PING PONG. > lib,
still afloat and spot not one, but TWO borders ray:

8- Sariwon about to riot so gets a taxman. now 0 growth. bad!
and ofcourse we sink with no contacts rush more galleys for 200g.

9- Wonsan lib > MDI (we dont want to be completely helpless here, right?), Ulsan aqua > pike, Kaesong galley > lib, Choju galley > galley,

10- Namp'o lib > market, Taejon lib > MDI, Suwon harbour > lib,
the people give us a door to the cave.

there are 2 galleys in the west corner. run them straight west for 3 turns.
check and MM for happiness. lots of clowns and taxmen. up lux to 20?
thats all, folks.

 

[eldar]

Thanx SW. I think the other continent are a little way ahead of us... some catchup is really in order! And a boot up my rear, or possibly something gunpowder-powered might work better!

 

[Beorn-eL-Feared]

the pray smiley is : worship : btw. I might get around to it tomorrow, if Eldar doesn't change his mind about the flaming booming boot up his rear end. Please do, dude, I wouldn't want you to end like my last car.

 

[eldar]

Got. Tonight, after pred02, hopefully before my wife finished dinner? Certainly between dinner and Big Brother.

 

[eldar]

Got a little mixed up in the order of things, but here we are.

I got bored. Whacked Ragnar around a bit. We now own this huge great bronze bloke. Met some new friends, but they're not that nice - they know more than us, the smartypants.

Ragnar's final resting place will be a city smack in the middle of China. Won't last.

Got Invention, sold it to Mao to get Mono. Signed RoP with him as well. Got Gunpowder, too, and we have plenty of boom-boom powder.

So we've met Osman (no trading, too expensive) who knows Theology and Chivalry and stuff. He doesn't know Chemistry - but we will soon enough!

We've met Gandhi, too, who's backward, but I gave him a free government (Republic).

The rest will come in time.

Here's a picture, with diagrams and stuff:

Neil.

 

[Beorn-eL-Feared]

I have to say I'm not 100% positive about how to deal with Stockholm, but I'll work that through tonight.

I guess we now need to ensure Mao's domination: sign MA with him against spain and Viks, so that he conquers in, and leave him some breathing room. Perhaps gift a city or 2. Will see to it tonight.

 

[Tubby Rower]

No MA with Mao. We don't want to drag our buddy into our fight do we?

EDIT:: I see that Osman owns the GL in Bursa. I think that we need to stop research after Astronomy and go take Bursa. Let's have a scientific elevator....woo hoo then gift it to MAo

 

[eldar]

We can use our RoP to take out the last Viking city, and gift it to Mao, if needs be. War with Spain to knock out Barcelona (she has a town in the far south, too) is probably worth it, once the peace deal is up.

Clearly trade Chem for whatever Osman will give us - Theo's better than Chiv, though, not like we'll need it

Then Metal after Chem, but don't bother with Mil Trad. Again, why are we going to need it?

 

[soul_warrior]

yes. an almost really wise man (so he claimed) once told me that paper has magical properties.
ever since that days ive torn many pages in search of this elusive magic. where is it?
maybe the sultan has an answer?

 

[eldar]

Scientific Elevator? We don't need it... yeah, but maybe Mao could handle it! We just have to keep him from getting Education.

However invading over there - and there are already muskets - isn't going to be pretty.

 

[Minute Man]

don't bother with Mil Trad. Again, why are we going to need it?

True. There's no way we could end up in a war with, say, Mao, and have a need for (a) fast-moving troops to bolster the defense or (b) good attack troops to destroy invaders, thus bringing our enemy to the peace table. And it's not even remotely conceivable that we could end up in a war with anybody on the other continent. I mean, what could they possibly have that we might want?

And, sure, the enhanced military strength (due to having 6/3 units instead of 4/2's, or even the 2/1 horsemen we have now) might deter other civs from declaring war on us, but it's not like we have any potentially aggressive neighbors....

So, yeah, I agree. Military Tradition - what a useless tech.



Seriously, I don't want to count on the fact that we can keep the peace with Mao. The AI can do some pretty silly things, especially when we're the only neighbors left, so we should be prepared. Not that I would make MT a really high priority, but we should try to get it at some point.

 

[Beorn-eL-Feared]

Well, I think we will be better off gifting whatever we want to Mao rather than GLib-elevating him. We won't benefit much from the GLib anyways - not enough to consider sending a 1-city strike force in with the current disadvantageous unit strenghts, and even less to send a full army.

 

[Beorn-eL-Feared]

Nvm my Got it, I'll maybe play it friday or over the week-end, so MailMan would probably want to have his set before mine.

 

[Beorn-eL-Feared]

Will play right now