Elected Officials should be required to take the Naturalization Test

[warpus]

Dude, all I ever said was that a lot of people dislike Trump for the listed reasons. I have made no other claims.

I didn't think that'd be such a controversial thing to say, after all it is fairly common for people to dislike someone who is sexist, racist, and the other things listed. These are not positive personality traits, of course people aren't going to love him for it, but rather the opposite.

 

[timtofly]

So you are saying that all the angst against Trump, is because people are moral hypocrites? Now we move the goalpost?

Because the "point" was whether it was his personality traits and not his policies. He is president, despite his flaws. At what point do we stop talking about the personal Trump, and start talking about the President Trump? As pointed out from the middle school thought processes, we are not in middle school any more. Neither will we see social equality especially advanced either, until the President deems the "borders" are secure. I grant it though, that those personality traits may not get us far on the social equality march. Who is the final authority on social issues? Who is without moral faults?

It would seem to me that at one point social equality has to get past the personal aspect of any single human. Otherwise, Trump is the scapegoat of all that is wrong with society. If he solves everything, is he the "savior" ?

 

[warpus]

So you are saying that all the angst against Trump, is because people are moral hypocrites?

No, all I've ever said that a lot of people dislike Trump because he is a racist, sexist, mysoginist, etc.

How hard is it to read what I wrote and not start putting words in my mouth? It's literally just one sentence. Read it, accept it, don't imagine that I'm saying something that I'm not.

 

[timtofly]

All I asked was why? It seems petty and hypocritical, no matter what stick you shake at it.

 

[warpus]

Why do most people dislike racists? Because.. wait, are you honestly asking that?

 

[timtofly]

You do seem to be egalitarian in your morals. ; )

 

[warpus]

Which part of the world do you live in where racists and sexists aren't disliked, but instead celebrated? I don't know, maybe this is a cultural problem that I can't explain to you why someone might dislike a racist.

 

[timtofly]

I live in a world that seems to have nothing to like any more. Also one where social equality has replaced morality evidently.

 

[warpus]

You're always throwing all these random things in your posts that have nothing to do what we're talking about. Maybe if you stuck to the things we are discussing conversing with you would go a lot smoother

 

[timtofly]

Seeing as this will probably be my one and only conversation about why people judge and by extension dislike Trump, I have not mentioned anything outside of the current thought processes of humanity as they seem to have culminated in the election of President Trump..

 

[warpus]

I mean I get you have other views on related things to what we were disagreeing about, but.. anyway, this is pretty off topic and useless now, so I'll let someone else have the floor

 

[onejayhawk]

It appears that Betsy Devos passed the naturalization test. She is now the secretary of Education.
https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2017/02/the-sensation-known-as-betsy-devos/515907/

Don't look now, but this is a huge blow to Democratic fundraising. School choice is the cause celebre, but this is almost entirely about money.

J