Elimination Thread-Returning Civ 5 Leaders

[Zelda1983]

Ahmad al-Mansur 17
Ashurbanipal 26
Bismarck 19
Enrico Dandolo 8-3 = 5 Boring guy
Gajah Mada 23
Genghis Khan 23
Gustavus Adolphus 21
Harun al-Rashid 15
Kamehameha 21
Maria Theresa 16
Napoleon 14
Nebuchadnezzar II 21
Pacal 9
Pachacuti 21
Ramesses II 24
Sejong 15
Shaka 25+1 = 26 I miss him so much
Suleiman 26
Wu Zetian 15

 

[Manifold]

Ahmad al-Mansur 17
Ashurbanipal 27 (26+1) his presentation in Civ5 was very good
Bismarck 19
Enrico Dandolo 5
Gajah Mada 23
Genghis Khan 23
Gustavus Adolphus 21
Harun al-Rashid 12 (15-3) not again please
Kamehameha 21
Maria Theresa 16
Napoleon 14
Nebuchadnezzar II 21
Pacal 9
Pachacuti 21
Ramesses II 24
Sejong 15
Shaka 26
Suleiman 26
Wu Zetian 15

 

[Kimiimaro]

Ahmad al-Mansur 17
Ashurbanipal 27-3=24 - Assyria is a great choice for a Civ, but not my highest priority, and that's why I think he shouldn't be the leader.
Bismarck 19
Enrico Dandolo 5+1=6 - Someone said he is boring. He changed the course of the fourth crusade, made his homeland rich and powerful, conquered one of the biggest cities in Europe, and that all in his nineties and blind. How is that boring?
Gajah Mada 23
Genghis Khan 23
Gustavus Adolphus 21
Harun al-Rashid 12
Kamehameha 21
Maria Theresa 16
Napoleon 14
Nebuchadnezzar II 21
Pacal 9
Pachacuti 21
Ramesses II 24
Sejong 15
Shaka 26
Suleiman 26
Wu Zetian 15

 

[Guandao]

Ahmad al-Mansur 17
Ashurbanipal 24
Bismarck 19
Enrico Dandolo 6
Gajah Mada 23
Genghis Khan (23+1)=24 I'm betting they are added in the first expansion. I hope that the Scythians weren't chosen over them because of "genocide". I'm sure the Scythians killed many innocent people as well.
Gustavus Adolphus 21
Harun al-Rashid 12
Kamehameha 21
Maria Theresa 16
Napoleon 14
Nebuchadnezzar II (21-3)=18 I would like Hammurabi to return as leader of Babylon
Pacal 9
Pachacuti 21
Ramesses II 24
Sejong 15
Shaka 26
Suleiman 26
Wu Zetian 15

 

[Morningcalm]

Ahmad al-Mansur 17
Ashurbanipal 24
Bismarck 19
Enrico Dandolo 6
Gajah Mada 23
Genghis Khan 24
Gustavus Adolphus 21
Harun al-Rashid 12
Kamehameha 21
Maria Theresa 16
Napoleon 14
Nebuchadnezzar II 18
Pacal 9 - 3 = 6 (Tired of this guy, and there are more storied Mayan leaders around, like Yuk'noom the Great, who installed puppet rulers in his vanquished foes' cities (could be an interesting delegate/city-state bonus), or Lady Six Sky, who was concerned with ritual and also a successful warrior)
Pachacuti 21 + 1 = 22 (Much more worthy than Sweden's Gustavus Adolphus for inclusion at this stage, as he would bring an iconic civilization with him to a Civ world that is far too Eurocentric at present)
Ramesses II 24
Sejong 15
Shaka 26
Suleiman 26
Wu Zetian 15

 

[Manifold]

Ahmad al-Mansur 17
Ashurbanipal 25 (24+1) just the best
Bismarck 19
Enrico Dandolo 3 (6-3) arrivederci
Gajah Mada 23
Genghis Khan 24
Gustavus Adolphus 21
Harun al-Rashid 12
Kamehameha 21
Maria Theresa 16
Napoleon 14
Nebuchadnezzar II 18
Pacal 6
Pachacuti 22
Ramesses II 24
Sejong 15
Shaka 26
Suleiman 26
Wu Zetian 15

 

[God of Kings]

Ahmad al-Mansur 17
Ashurbanipal 25
Bismarck 19
Enrico Dandolo 3 - 3 = ELIMINATED Great voice and character and such, but he can wait
Gajah Mada 23 + 1 = 24 Practically a given according to Eagle Pursuit
Genghis Khan 24
Gustavus Adolphus 21
Harun al-Rashid 12
Kamehameha 21
Maria Theresa 16
Napoleon 14
Nebuchadnezzar II 18
Pacal 6
Pachacuti 22
Ramesses II 24
Sejong 15
Shaka 26
Suleiman 26
Wu Zetian 15

 

[LastSword]

Ahmad al-Mansur 17
Ashurbanipal 25
Bismarck 19
Gajah Mada 24
Genghis Khan 24
Gustavus Adolphus 21
Harun al-Rashid 12 - 3 = 9 Mainly because Saladin was incorrectly made/portraited like Harun al-Rashid should be.
Kamehameha 21
Maria Theresa 16
Napoleon 14 + 1 = 15 Haters gonna hate. He and Genghis are on another level.
Nebuchadnezzar II 18
Pacal 6
Pachacuti 22
Ramesses II 24
Sejong 15
Shaka 26
Suleiman 26
Wu Zetian 15

 

[Vahnstad]

Ahmad al-Mansur 17
Ashurbanipal 25
Bismarck 19
Gajah Mada 24
Genghis Khan 24 + 1 = 25 Nice warmonger
Gustavus Adolphus 21
Harun al-Rashid 9
Kamehameha 21
Maria Theresa 16
Napoleon 15
Nebuchadnezzar II 18
Pacal 6
Pachacuti 22
Ramesses II 24
Sejong 15
Shaka 26 - 3 = 23 Boring warmonger
Suleiman 26
Wu Zetian 15

 

[Kimiimaro]

Enrico Dandolo 3 - 3 = ELIMINATED Great voice and character and such, but he can wait

Un conto sbaglià, da parte mia.

Ahmad al-Mansur 17
Ashurbanipal 25
Bismarck 19+1=20 - While Germany has a good leader, he is a nice choice for a second leader of Germany. He could focus on industry or science... policies, maybe...
Gajah Mada 24
Genghis Khan 25-3=22 - Not a priority right now.
Gustavus Adolphus 21
Harun al-Rashid 9
Kamehameha 21
Maria Theresa 16
Napoleon 15
Nebuchadnezzar II 18
Pacal 6
Pachacuti 22
Ramesses II 24
Sejong 15
Shaka 23
Suleiman 26
Wu Zetian 15

 

[Guandao]

Ahmad al-Mansur 17
Ashurbanipal 25
Bismarck 20
Gajah Mada (24-3)=21 He doesn't have to return again, they could use Hayam Wuruk or Tribhuwana.
Genghis Khan (22+1)=23 Is a priority lol. Scythia can't be the only horse rider Civ in the game.
Gustavus Adolphus 21
Harun al-Rashid 9
Kamehameha 21
Maria Theresa 16
Napoleon 15
Nebuchadnezzar II 18
Pacal 6
Pachacuti 22
Ramesses II 24
Sejong 15
Shaka 23
Suleiman 26
Wu Zetian 15

 

[Manifold]

Ahmad al-Mansur 17
Ashurbanipal 25
Bismarck 20
Gajah Mada 21
Genghis Khan 24 (23+1) I guess they will come additionally with the next dlc 006 as first to be paid dlc 007. code name: "GH" for GenGHis Khan)
Gustavus Adolphus 21
Harun al-Rashid 9
Kamehameha 21
Maria Theresa 16
Napoleon 15
Nebuchadnezzar II 18
Pacal 6
Pachacuti 22
Ramesses II 21 (24-3) Old Kingdom this time please
Sejong 15
Shaka 23
Suleiman 26
Wu Zetian 15

 

[Morningcalm]

Ahmad al-Mansur 17
Ashurbanipal 25 + 1 = 26 (This guy was imposing but unique as a conquering librarian. He's well suited for an agenda in VI, that's for sure).
Bismarck 20
Gajah Mada 21
Genghis Khan 24
Gustavus Adolphus 21
Harun al-Rashid 9
Kamehameha 21
Maria Theresa 16
Napoleon 15
Nebuchadnezzar II 18
Pacal 6 - 3 = 3 (There exist many better attested and awesome Mayan rulers. Pacal is mostly known for his long reign and burial)
Pachacuti 22
Ramesses II 21
Sejong 15
Shaka 23
Suleiman 26
Wu Zetian 15

 

[Kimiimaro]

Ahmad al-Mansur 17+1=18 - The return of Morocco would be nice, and Ahmad al-Mansur is a great choice for Moroccan leader.
Ashurbanipal 26
Bismarck 20
Gajah Mada 21
Genghis Khan 24
Gustavus Adolphus 21
Harun al-Rashid 9
Kamehameha 21
Maria Theresa 16
Napoleon 15
Nebuchadnezzar II 18
Pacal 3-3=0 (ELIMINATED) - I'll put him out of his misery.
Pachacuti 22
Ramesses II 21
Sejong 15
Shaka 23
Suleiman 26
Wu Zetian 15

 

[Guandao]

Ahmad al-Mansur 18
Ashurbanipal 26
Bismarck 20
Gajah Mada 21
Genghis Khan (24+1)=25 The Mongols are a Civ tradition.
Gustavus Adolphus 21
Harun al-Rashid 9
Kamehameha 21
Maria Theresa 16
Napoleon 15
Nebuchadnezzar II (18-3)=15 I want Hammurabi instead
Pachacuti 22
Ramesses II 21
Sejong 15
Shaka 23
Suleiman 26
Wu Zetian 15

 

[Morningcalm]

Ahmad al-Mansur 18
Ashurbanipal 26
Bismarck 20
Gajah Mada 21 + 1 = 22 (If Indonesia is the next DLC civ, Gajah is almost certainly the Indonesian leader as the powerful de-facto leader and conqueror, unless they went with the king he served under perhaps)
Genghis Khan 25
Gustavus Adolphus 21
Harun al-Rashid 9
Kamehameha 21
Maria Theresa 16
Napoleon 15
Nebuchadnezzar II 15 - 3 = 12 (Agreed. While Nebuchadnezzar was a great king, likely for the leader-centric approach and for something more original they'd make Nebuchadnezzar a madman in the game as they did in V.)
Pachacuti 22
Ramesses II 21
Sejong 15
Shaka 23
Suleiman 26
Wu Zetian 15

 

[Kimiimaro]

Ahmad al-Mansur 18
Ashurbanipal 26
Bismarck 20
Gajah Mada 22
Genghis Khan 25
Gustavus Adolphus 21
Harun al-Rashid 9
Kamehameha 21
Maria Theresa 16-3=13 - She is probably the best choice for Austrian leader, but why not use Rudolf II this time? Or Joseph II? Or Franz Joseph? Also, I'd rather have few more Civs included before Austria, like Sweden, Babylon/Assyria, Korea, Inca, Portugal, Netherlands, Bohemia...
Napoleon 15+1=16 - France needs a second leader, and Napoleon is a great choice.
Nebuchadnezzar II 12
Pachacuti 22
Ramesses II 21
Sejong 15
Shaka 23
Suleiman 26
Wu Zetian 15

 

[Guandao]

Ahmad al-Mansur 18
Ashurbanipal 26
Bismarck 20
Gajah Mada 22
Genghis Khan 25
Gustavus Adolphus 21
Harun al-Rashid (9+1)=10 I think he can offer something different than Saladin. Maybe more focus on Science.
Kamehameha 21
Maria Theresa 13
Napoleon 16
Nebuchadnezzar II 12
Pachacuti 22
Ramesses II 21
Sejong 15-3=12 I desire a different leader for Korea this time
Shaka 23
Suleiman 26
Wu Zetian 15

 

[Manifold]

Ahmad al-Mansur 18
Ashurbanipal 26
Bismarck 20
Gajah Mada 22
Genghis Khan 25
Gustavus Adolphus 21
Harun al-Rashid 7 (10-3) another please
Kamehameha 21
Maria Theresa 13
Napoleon 17 (16+1) is the fitting alternative for CdM
Nebuchadnezzar II 12
Pachacuti 22
Ramesses II 21
Sejong 12
Shaka 23
Suleiman 26
Wu Zetian 15

 

[Kimiimaro]

Ahmad al-Mansur 18
Ashurbanipal 26
Bismarck 20
Gajah Mada 22
Genghis Khan 25-3=22 - Mongols aren't a priority to me. I'm not saying that two horse raider Civs for one game are too much, I'm saying that two Asian horse raider Civs aren't a priority when we're missing so many important Civs from so many parts of the world right now, like Incas, Native American Civs, African Civs or SE Asian Civs.
Gustavus Adolphus 21
Harun al-Rashid 7
Kamehameha 21
Maria Theresa 13
Napoleon 17
Nebuchadnezzar II 12
Pachacuti 22
Ramesses II 21
Sejong 12
Shaka 23
Suleiman 26+1=27 - Ottomans are always welcomed!
Wu Zetian 15