Elimination Thread-Returning Civ 5 Leaders

[Guandao]

Ahmad al-Mansur 18
Ashurbanipal 26
Bismarck 20
Gajah Mada 22
Genghis Khan 22+1=23 This is not about which Civs you want to return earlier, it's about which Civ5 leaders you want to return. Genghis is one of the few I would like to see return.
Gustavus Adolphus 21
Harun al-Rashid 7
Kamehameha 21
Maria Theresa 13
Napoleon 17
Nebuchadnezzar II 12
Pachacuti 22
Ramesses II 21
Sejong 12
Shaka 23
Suleiman (27-3)=24 Can't let him take the lead, besides Mehmed the Conqueror can be used instead
Wu Zetian 15

 

[Siptah]

Ahmad al-Mansur 15 (18-3) As much as I want Morocco to return in civ VI, I think there are more extravagant leaders that fit better into the big personality concept.
Ashurbanipal 26
Bismarck 20
Gajah Mada 22
Genghis Khan 23
Gustavus Adolphus 22 (21+1) Best option for Sweden, a great leader in many ways. Could go for military, religious or infrastructure bonuses.
Harun al-Rashid 7
Kamehameha 21
Maria Theresa 13
Napoleon 17
Nebuchadnezzar II 12
Pachacuti 22
Ramesses II 21
Sejong 12
Shaka 23
Suleiman 24
Wu Zetian 15

 

[Manifold]

Ahmad al-Mansur 15
Ashurbanipal 26
Bismarck 20
Gajah Mada 22
Genghis Khan 23
Gustavus Adolphus 22
Harun al-Rashid 4 (7-3) last time I had a reason I did not remember now but this time the same
Kamehameha 21
Maria Theresa 13
Napoleon 18 (17+1) too low
Nebuchadnezzar II 12
Pachacuti 22
Ramesses II 21
Sejong 12
Shaka 23
Suleiman 24
Wu Zetian 15

 

[Kimiimaro]

Ahmad al-Mansur 15
Ashurbanipal 26
Bismarck 20
Gajah Mada 22
Genghis Khan 23
Gustavus Adolphus 22
Harun al-Rashid 4-3=1 - Let's end his suffering. He's a perfect choice for alternative Arab leader, but Arabia isn't in a big need of second leader. Saladin is enough for now.
Kamehameha 21
Maria Theresa 13
Napoleon 18
Nebuchadnezzar II 12
Pachacuti 22
Ramesses II 21
Sejong 12+1=13 - I actually wouldn't mind Sejong's return. Korea is quite interesting Civ, and Sejong was one of the best Korean leaders.
Shaka 23
Suleiman 24
Wu Zetian 15

 

[Guandao]

Ahmad al-Mansur 15
Ashurbanipal 26
Bismarck 20
Gajah Mada 22
Genghis Khan (23+1)=24 His return is inevitable, Scythia be damned.
Gustavus Adolphus 22
Harun al-Rashid 1-3=0 Fine I'll eliminate him. Firaxis should've portrayed Saladin as a warrior.
Kamehameha 21
Maria Theresa 13
Napoleon 18
Nebuchadnezzar II 12
Pachacuti 22
Ramesses II 21
Sejong 13
Shaka 23
Suleiman 24
Wu Zetian 15

 

[Manifold]

Ahmad al-Mansur 15
Ashurbanipal 26
Bismarck 20
Gajah Mada 22
Genghis Khan 24
Gustavus Adolphus 22
Kamehameha 21
Maria Theresa 13
Napoleon 18
Nebuchadnezzar II 12
Pachacuti 22
Ramesses II 18 (21-3) the Old kingdom should give a new leader to Egypt
Sejong 13
Shaka 23
Suleiman 24
Wu Zetian 16 (15+1) she could work

 

[Roman Citizen]

Ahmad al-Mansur 15
Ashurbanipal 26
Bismarck 20
Gajah Mada 22
Genghis Khan 24
Gustavus Adolphus 22-3=19 I like Gustav, but not to thrilled with a return of Sweden.
Kamehameha 21
Maria Theresa 13
Napoleon 18+1=19 Napoleon would bring a vastly different France than Catherine.
Nebuchadnezzar II 12
Pachacuti 22
Ramesses II 18
Sejong 13
Shaka 23
Suleiman 24
Wu Zetian 16

 

[Siptah]

Ahmad al-Mansur 15
Ashurbanipal 26
Bismarck 20
Gajah Mada 23 (22+1) seemed a good option for Indonesia, which will return soon.
Genghis Khan 24
Gustavus Adolphus 19
Kamehameha 21
Maria Theresa 13
Napoleon 19
Nebuchadnezzar II 12
Pachacuti 22
Ramesses II 15 (18-3) Time for someone new
Sejong 13
Shaka 23
Suleiman 24
Wu Zetian 16

 

[Kimiimaro]

Ahmad al-Mansur 15
Ashurbanipal 26
Bismarck 20
Gajah Mada 23
Genghis Khan 24-3=21 - I don't know why, but the presence of Scythia just dampens my enthusiasm for Mongolia in game. It's like it's saying to me: "they can wait".
Gustavus Adolphus 19
Kamehameha 21
Maria Theresa 13
Napoleon 19
Nebuchadnezzar II 12
Pachacuti 22
Ramesses II 15+1=16 - Should be enough for Egyptian alternative leader.
Sejong 13
Shaka 23
Suleiman 24
Wu Zetian 16

 

[Guandao]

Ahmad al-Mansur 15
Ashurbanipal 26
Bismarck 20
Gajah Mada 23
Genghis Khan (21+1)=22 Scythia is Huns 2.0, plus White . I want my East Asian horde.
Gustavus Adolphus 19
Kamehameha 21
Maria Theresa 13
Napoleon 19
Nebuchadnezzar II (12-3)=9 Let's give Hammurabi a chance this time.
Pachacuti 22
Ramesses II 16
Sejong 13
Shaka 23
Suleiman 24
Wu Zetian 16

 

[RFormica]

Ahmad al-Mansur 15
Ashurbanipal 26
Bismarck 20
Gajah Mada 23
Genghis Khan 22 + 1 = 23 Conquered almost all of Asia, and eastern Europe, too!

I'm saying that two Asian horse raider Civs aren't a priority

...and considering that the Scythians inhabited the steppes of Ukraine, an Asian horse raider civilization would be nice.
Gustavus Adolphus 19
Kamehameha 21
Maria Theresa 13
Napoleon 19
Nebuchadnezzar II 9
Pachacuti 22
Ramesses II 16
Sejong 13 - 3 = 10 I don't think that Korea is a priority, we already have China and Japan.
Shaka 23
Suleiman 24
Wu Zetian 16

 

[Manifold]

Ahmad al-Mansur 15
Ashurbanipal 26
Bismarck 20
Gajah Mada 23
Genghis Khan 24 (23+1) I mean we can close this game because he is the absolute winner. Actually Civ 6 is to peaceful.
Gustavus Adolphus 19
Kamehameha 21
Maria Theresa 10 (13-3) I do not need her.
Napoleon 19
Nebuchadnezzar II 9
Pachacuti 22
Ramesses II 16
Sejong 10
Shaka 23
Suleiman 24
Wu Zetian 16

 

[Siptah]

Ahmad al-Mansur 15
Ashurbanipal 26
Bismarck 20
Gajah Mada 23
Genghis Khan 24
Gustavus Adolphus 20 (19+1) A great person of history and for sure the best option for Sweden, that I'd like to return
Kamehameha 21
Maria Theresa 10
Napoleon 19
Nebuchadnezzar II 9
Pachacuti 22
Ramesses II 13 (16-3) A new leader for Egypt please! Middle or Old Kingdom!
Sejong 10
Shaka 23
Suleiman 24
Wu Zetian 16

 

[Kimiimaro]

Nebuchadnezzar II (12-3)=9 Let's give Hammurabi a chance this time.

You know that Hammurabi was in four games (I, II, III, IV) and Nebby just in one (V), right?

...and considering that the Scythians inhabited the steppes of Ukraine, an Asian horse raider civilization would be nice.

Not just steppes of Ukraine. Akkording to wikipedia, they also occupied Central Asia.

Ahmad al-Mansur 15
Ashurbanipal 26
Bismarck 20
Gajah Mada 23
Genghis Khan 24-3=21 - Because presence of Scythia makes me less enthusiastic about another horse raider Civ. I wouldn't mind the return of Mongols... but later. Also, he's a Great General already.
Gustavus Adolphus 20
Kamehameha 21
Maria Theresa 10
Napoleon 19
Nebuchadnezzar II 9+1=10 - Falling too fast. Babylon should return, and I won't mind if Nebby was used again. Obviously, Hammurabi is a better choice, but still.
Pachacuti 22
Ramesses II 13
Sejong 10
Shaka 23
Suleiman 24
Wu Zetian 16

 

[Guandao]

Ahmad al-Mansur 15
Ashurbanipal 26
Bismarck 20
Gajah Mada 23
Genghis Khan (21+1)=22 Scythia is boring Huns 2.0 (led by a fictional leader, yes I doubt the ancient Greeks). How much later you want the Mongols to return? Second Expansion? Plus him being a Great General in-game can be easily changed.
Gustavus Adolphus 20
Kamehameha 21
Maria Theresa 10
Napoleon 19
Nebuchadnezzar II (10-3)=7 Hammurabi has never been voiced before, and I don't want grunting insane Nebby again. The Bible must be so accurate...
Pachacuti 22
Ramesses II 13
Sejong 10
Shaka 23
Suleiman 24
Wu Zetian 16

 

[Roman Citizen]

Ahmad al-Mansur 15
Ashurbanipal 26
Bismarck 20
Gajah Mada 23
Genghis Khan 22
Gustavus Adolphus 20-3=17
Kamehameha 21
Maria Theresa 10
Napoleon 19+1=20 Same all as last time.
Nebuchadnezzar II 7
Pachacuti 22
Ramesses II 13
Sejong 10
Shaka 23
Suleiman 24
Wu Zetian 16

 

[Manifold]

Ahmad al-Mansur 15
Ashurbanipal 26
Bismarck 20
Gajah Mada 20 (23-3) are there not any others?
Genghis Khan 23 (22+1) semi nomadic Civ, moving camps, pestilence catapults, boni for razing cities
Gustavus Adolphus 17
Kamehameha 21
Maria Theresa 10
Napoleon 20
Nebuchadnezzar II 7
Pachacuti 22
Ramesses II 13
Sejong 10
Shaka 23
Suleiman 24
Wu Zetian 16

 

[ToothedBomb]

Ahmad al-Mansur 15
Ashurbanipal 26
Bismarck 20
Gajah Mada 20
Genghis Khan 23-3=20 (Totally agreed that Scythia's inclusion just doesn't make me excited for the Mongols. Perhaps in some other form with a different leader, but not Genghis with his hordes.)
Gustavus Adolphus 17
Kamehameha 21
Maria Theresa 10
Napoleon 20
Nebuchadnezzar II 7
Pachacuti 22+1=23 (Honestly I just want the Inca to return, and Pachacuti is as good a choice for a leader as any other.)
Ramesses II 13
Sejong 10
Shaka 23
Suleiman 24
Wu Zetian 16

 

[Kimiimaro]

Ahmad al-Mansur 15
Ashurbanipal 26-3=23 - Assyria is a great Civ and Ashurbanipal the warmongering librarian is a great choice, but not so great to lead the table. Suleiman deserves it more.
Bismarck 20+1=21 - Der Eiserne Kanzler!
Gajah Mada 20
Genghis Khan 20
Gustavus Adolphus 17
Kamehameha 21
Maria Theresa 10
Napoleon 20
Nebuchadnezzar II 7
Pachacuti 23
Ramesses II 13
Sejong 10
Shaka 23
Suleiman 24
Wu Zetian 16

 

[Guandao]

Ahmad al-Mansur 15
Ashurbanipal 23
Bismarck 21
Gajah Mada 20
Genghis Khan (20+1)=21 I want my Mongolian bad*** back. Fictional Tomyris is a poor substitute.
Gustavus Adolphus 17
Kamehameha 21
Maria Theresa 10
Napoleon 20
Nebuchadnezzar II 7
Pachacuti 23
Ramesses II 13
Sejong (10-3)=7 Meh, give me Seondeok of Silla, who adds more gender diversity to the game and was a capable leader.
Shaka 23
Suleiman 24
Wu Zetian 16