TedJackson
Cunning old Celt
Ted
EM6- The Curse is Broken!
- Thread starter Erik Mesoy
- Start date
Tsukemono5
American Pickle
Just a lurker comment:
I can't see the rest of the area, but it looks like it might be worthwhile to move red dot one tile directly west. Less overlap, still on river, and more forest vs. more jungle = win.
I can't see the rest of the area, but it looks like it might be worthwhile to move red dot one tile directly west. Less overlap, still on river, and more forest vs. more jungle = win.
TedJackson
Cunning old Celt
Pre-flight checks OK 
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Washington Settler - Warrior
1 - 2510BC
Lux 0%
Settler heads 3N
Worker roads to new site
Scouts scout
2 - 2470BC
NTR
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Washington Warrior - Settler
3 - 2430BC
Warrior heads N
4 - 2390BC
New York founded - Worker
Research 80% (3 turns)
5 - 2350BC
Research 60% (2 turns)
Lux 10%
6 - 2310BC
Worker road - road SW (Incense)
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Discover Alphabet - Writing @10% (+6gp/t)
7 - 2270BC
Couldn't get a reasonable deal on tech so I decided to hang back and "cash buy" as and when
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Washington Settler - Warrior
8 - 2230BC
Settler heads 3W
Lux 0% (+5gp/t)
9 - 2190BC
Still no trade
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Incense hooked up
10 - 2150BC
Worker road - road to new site
State of the Nation:
Notes:
Settler on-site
Save is >here<
Roster:
Erik Mesoy <--- Up Now!
Genghis Khan <--- On Deck
Zwingli
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TedJackson
Ted
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Washington Settler - Warrior
1 - 2510BC
Lux 0%
Settler heads 3N
Worker roads to new site
Scouts scout
2 - 2470BC
NTR
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Washington Warrior - Settler
3 - 2430BC
Warrior heads N
4 - 2390BC
New York founded - Worker
Research 80% (3 turns)
5 - 2350BC
Research 60% (2 turns)
Lux 10%
6 - 2310BC
Worker road - road SW (Incense)
IBT
Discover Alphabet - Writing @10% (+6gp/t)
7 - 2270BC
Couldn't get a reasonable deal on tech so I decided to hang back and "cash buy" as and when
IBT
Washington Settler - Warrior
8 - 2230BC
Settler heads 3W
Lux 0% (+5gp/t)
9 - 2190BC
Still no trade
IBT
Incense hooked up
10 - 2150BC
Worker road - road to new site
State of the Nation:
Notes:
Settler on-site
Save is >here<
Roster:
Erik Mesoy <--- Up Now!
Genghis Khan <--- On Deck
Zwingli
Stuck_As_A_Mac <--- On Vacation
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TedJackson
Ted
Erik Mesoy
Core Tester / Intern
Got it.
Egypt needs some slapping. How about pulling a warrior or two against their settler pairs, then declaring peace when we see their troops coming?
Egypt needs some slapping. How about pulling a warrior or two against their settler pairs, then declaring peace when we see their troops coming?
Erik Mesoy
Core Tester / Intern
EM6 played- my 2nd turn but playturn 4!
Preflight chekcs ok.
Turn 1: Wash warr-settler. Boston founded. I designate it as a military factory, having nothing else to build.
Turn 2: nada.
Turn 3: ditto.
Turn 4: NY worker-worker.
TUrn 5: Bug egypt about a tech trade. Nothing to be done.
Turn 6:nada.
Turn 7: Washington settler-worker. Haggle Wheel+BW for Alphabet, 6gpt and 59 gold, but I don't buy it.
Turn 8: nada.
Turn 9: nada.
TUrn 10: Egypt brings an undefended settler into view. I block it with a scout.
Several options availaible here. Destroy settler, block settler, leave settler alone.
Turn 11: Settler did not move. A warrior caught up with it.
Turn 12: nada.
Turn 13: Washington warrior-settler. NY worker-warrior. Phialdelphia founded, giving us an across-the-continent line.
Turn 14: Settler still blocked.
Turn 15: Settle moves onto mountain.
Turn 16: Enemy settle still moving east.
Turn 17: Nada.
Turn 18: Washington settler-settler. Our warrior wallops the Egyptian one, kills him, captures 2 free workers.
Turn 19: Not much.
Turn 20: Boston barracks-warrior.
Washington's borders will expand next turn. I saw an egyptian warrior east of Pi-Ramesses.
Make peace with Egypt when it feels useful, I.E. if their units are next to washington. Try to keep the war going as long as possible, we want them out of settler mode.
Our settler is to move 1 square NW. Found another city on the hill by our western scout, it has freshwater and coastal access.
Next player 20 turns, then drop to 10.
Edit:
Oh right, the save.
Preflight chekcs ok.
Turn 1: Wash warr-settler. Boston founded. I designate it as a military factory, having nothing else to build.
Turn 2: nada.
Turn 3: ditto.
Turn 4: NY worker-worker.
TUrn 5: Bug egypt about a tech trade. Nothing to be done.
Turn 6:nada.
Turn 7: Washington settler-worker. Haggle Wheel+BW for Alphabet, 6gpt and 59 gold, but I don't buy it.
Turn 8: nada.
Turn 9: nada.
TUrn 10: Egypt brings an undefended settler into view. I block it with a scout.
Several options availaible here. Destroy settler, block settler, leave settler alone.
Turn 11: Settler did not move. A warrior caught up with it.
Turn 12: nada.
Turn 13: Washington warrior-settler. NY worker-warrior. Phialdelphia founded, giving us an across-the-continent line.
Turn 14: Settler still blocked.
Turn 15: Settle moves onto mountain.
Turn 16: Enemy settle still moving east.
Turn 17: Nada.
Turn 18: Washington settler-settler. Our warrior wallops the Egyptian one, kills him, captures 2 free workers.
Turn 19: Not much.
Turn 20: Boston barracks-warrior.
Washington's borders will expand next turn. I saw an egyptian warrior east of Pi-Ramesses.
Make peace with Egypt when it feels useful, I.E. if their units are next to washington. Try to keep the war going as long as possible, we want them out of settler mode.
Our settler is to move 1 square NW. Found another city on the hill by our western scout, it has freshwater and coastal access.
Next player 20 turns, then drop to 10.
Edit:
Oh right, the save.
Gengis Khan
Deity
Got it.
Will play tonight after work(around 9-10 pm EST) to give everyone time to discuss the game plan with Egypt.
OK.... actually I'm just too tired to play right now.
Will play tonight after work(around 9-10 pm EST) to give everyone time to discuss the game plan with Egypt.
OK.... actually I'm just too tired to play right now.
TedJackson
Cunning old Celt
Actually, I thinik Erik's got it right
Push Egypt for all it's worth (pointy stick research) - but don't kill them off until we've got another tech trading partner!
Ted
Push Egypt for all it's worth (pointy stick research) - but don't kill them off until we've got another tech trading partner!
Ted
GenMarshall
High Elven ISB Capt & Ghost Agent
Gengis Khan
Deity
Hmmmm.
Due to this being my first SG I'm having some newbie problems finding the folder to save the game into. Grrr..
This will be resolved ASAP. If anyone spots this before I post my turns & can help me out I would greatly appreciate it
Due to this being my first SG I'm having some newbie problems finding the folder to save the game into. Grrr..
This will be resolved ASAP. If anyone spots this before I post my turns & can help me out I would greatly appreciate it
Yaype
Me
@ Genghis: The whole file upload process is explain in this thread:
File Upload
Hope that is what you were looking for.
File Upload
Hope that is what you were looking for.
Gengis Khan
Deity
Whew!! K figured it out, I'm taking my turns now & will post as soon as I finish.
So far just the PT isn't looking great, we're at war with our neighbor with only 5 warriors & a couple more on the way
Let's pray the RNG gods bless our supersticious Civ.
So far just the PT isn't looking great, we're at war with our neighbor with only 5 warriors & a couple more on the way
Let's pray the RNG gods bless our supersticious Civ.
Gengis Khan
Deity
In looking back things don't look good. The RNGods didn't bless our civ at all this half millinium Things started OK and quickly went downhill from there.
Well here's the damage report.
PT Move 2 Egyptian workers building road out in middle of nowhere back to our territory for much needed improvements.
IT 3 Warriors move outa Pi-Ramssese Washington: Warrior-War.
Turn 1(1450)-> Move scouts away from pursing Egyptians. Warrior out of NY, send war produced in Washington to NY.
IT More egyptian warriors
T2 Found Atlanta. Move warrior escorting the Atl settler up to attack mode. Up lux, & move Boston warrior up to guard Atl.
IT
warriors aproaching
T3(1400)-> Move warriors up.
IT Boston warrior-warrior
T4 Reg warrior replaces Vet MP in Boston, lux tax back to 0.
IT HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Cleo offers peace for 140 gold before we even have a casulty. *Looking back maybe this would have been a steal for me
*. Our warrior kills attacking warrior outside Pi-Ram(loses 1 HP)
T5 zzzzzzz
IT Wash W-Barracks, Bos W-W, Spot an Egyptian settler moving outa Memphis
T6(1325) Micro a bunch, not much else
IT Our warrior outside Pi-Ram is attacked, he kills off warriors, promotes & only loses 1 hp.
T7 Grrrr. Payback, 2 warriors die attacking an un-forted archer
IT zzzzz
T8 zzzz
IT More bad luck. Scout ambushed. Fortified warrior in forest is killed by archer. Lincoln begins wondering if the Gods themselves are backing Egypt and standing against him. NY War-War.
T9 (1250)- Approach Pi-Ram
IT Bos War-War
T10 Warrior killed on way to Pi-Ram by archer, next warrior kills it.
IT NY succumbs to disease. Atl War-W
T12 & 13 zzzzz
IT Warrior dies to archer, we retreat chariet next to Pi-Ram. Wash W-W, Bos W-W
T14 (1125)- Kill spearman in Pi Ram(warrior redlined)
IT Warrior dies to archer
T15 Warrior kills spearman in Pi-Ram. 3 Warriors die trying to kill last defending spearman.
IT 2 Warriors on way to Pi-Ram(in forrests no less) killed by chariots. Writing learned-start on Lit at min research. Wash War-W, Bos W-W
T16 (1075) zzzzzzzzz
IT Another warrior in forest killed by chariot, another warrior aproaching Pi retreats char(both redlined)
T17 Kill retreated chariot.
IT Scout killed spying on troop movement
. Redlined warrior killed. NY War-w, Bos W-W, Wash W-Settler
T18 More warrior movement, not much else.
IT Warrior dies to chariot(redlined)
T19 (1000)- I decide to leave it at this without doing anything this turn, due in part to the nice year to leave it on, and mostly to my HORRIBLE luck with the RNG.
Lit due in 37, Washington to produce a settler in 3 turns(this can be changed if needed), lux tax is up to 10%.
Good luck Zwingli!! Hopefully you'll have a better go at it then mine
:suicide:
Things started OK and quickly went downhill from there. Well here's the damage report.
PT Move 2 Egyptian workers building road out in middle of nowhere back to our territory for much needed improvements.
IT 3 Warriors move outa Pi-Ramssese Washington: Warrior-War.
Turn 1(1450)-> Move scouts away from pursing Egyptians. Warrior out of NY, send war produced in Washington to NY.
IT More egyptian warriors
T2 Found Atlanta. Move warrior escorting the Atl settler up to attack mode. Up lux, & move Boston warrior up to guard Atl.
IT
warriors aproachingT3(1400)-> Move warriors up.
IT Boston warrior-warrior
T4 Reg warrior replaces Vet MP in Boston, lux tax back to 0.
IT HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Cleo offers peace for 140 gold before we even have a casulty. *Looking back maybe this would have been a steal for me
*. Our warrior kills attacking warrior outside Pi-Ram(loses 1 HP)T5 zzzzzzz
IT Wash W-Barracks, Bos W-W, Spot an Egyptian settler moving outa Memphis
T6(1325) Micro a bunch, not much else
IT Our warrior outside Pi-Ram is attacked, he kills off warriors, promotes & only loses 1 hp.
T7 Grrrr. Payback, 2 warriors die attacking an un-forted archer
IT zzzzz
T8 zzzz
IT More bad luck. Scout ambushed. Fortified warrior in forest is killed by archer. Lincoln begins wondering if the Gods themselves are backing Egypt and standing against him. NY War-War.
T9 (1250)- Approach Pi-Ram
IT Bos War-War
T10 Warrior killed on way to Pi-Ram by archer, next warrior kills it.
IT NY succumbs to disease. Atl War-W
T12 & 13 zzzzz
IT Warrior dies to archer, we retreat chariet next to Pi-Ram. Wash W-W, Bos W-W
T14 (1125)- Kill spearman in Pi Ram(warrior redlined)
IT Warrior dies to archer
T15 Warrior kills spearman in Pi-Ram. 3 Warriors die trying to kill last defending spearman.
IT 2 Warriors on way to Pi-Ram(in forrests no less) killed by chariots. Writing learned-start on Lit at min research. Wash War-W, Bos W-W
T16 (1075) zzzzzzzzz
IT Another warrior in forest killed by chariot, another warrior aproaching Pi retreats char(both redlined)
T17 Kill retreated chariot.
IT Scout killed spying on troop movement
. Redlined warrior killed. NY War-w, Bos W-W, Wash W-SettlerT18 More warrior movement, not much else.
IT Warrior dies to chariot(redlined)
T19 (1000)- I decide to leave it at this without doing anything this turn, due in part to the nice year to leave it on, and mostly to my HORRIBLE luck with the RNG.
Lit due in 37, Washington to produce a settler in 3 turns(this can be changed if needed), lux tax is up to 10%.
Good luck Zwingli!! Hopefully you'll have a better go at it then mine
:suicide:
Gengis Khan
Deity
And the save
Erik Mesoy
Core Tester / Intern
Remember that Egyptian War Chariots have 2 attacks. If you knew this, sorry, it doesn't seem to show in your post.
You mentioned Lit due in 37, but what was researchd before that?
No tech shown on turn 17.
Hmm, who downloaded the save?
You mentioned Lit due in 37, but what was researchd before that?
No tech shown on turn 17.
Hmm, who downloaded the save?
Zwingli
Prince
Erik, I downloaded the save, but did not post a "got it" because I started immediately.
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1000 BC (0) We can build only warriors (lacking Warrior Code for archers) and are facing Egypt in its Golden Age with War Chariots. Egypt has 10 cities to our 5, and we are gaining nothing from this war, so it is time to make peace (at any cost).
This will make our tech deficit even worse, but I give Egypt Writing + 8g for peace. Egypt is now 6 techs ahead, but all we need is Ironworking to upgrade some of our veteran warriors, and we might be able to extort our way back to parity. Egypt is very powerful, and is going to take more than 1 war to take down.
It is less expensive to research techs than to buy them if you only know 1 opponent, so I switch research to Bronzeworking due in 5 turns to get to Ironworking.
(1) Start temple in New York so that it can work forests for shields instead of desert. Switch some warrior builds to workers.
(2) Move warriors away from Egypt to our cities for Police purposes.
(3) Boston is set up to be our troops factory and can produce a warrior every other turn for a future upgrade.
(4) Washington completes Settler->Temple (we are religious!). Whip the temple in New York.
(5) Bronzeworking learned, start Ironworking due in 12 turns.
(6) Egypt founded a city on the site I was sending the settler to, so I redirect the settler to a secondary site. Egypt looks like it may sneak attack as a War Chariot is approaching.
(7) No Egyptian attack yet.
(8) Boston is set to build a temple before it resumes warrior production.
(9) Washington completes temple->settler. Lux tax is lowered due to the temple. Egypt completes the Great Pyramids in Thebes
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(10) The Egyptian Chariot is still wandering around close to Atlanta, but try not to prevoke it (if it enters our territory, don't demand that it leave). A war with Egypt at this point would be difficult.
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1000 BC (0) We can build only warriors (lacking Warrior Code for archers) and are facing Egypt in its Golden Age with War Chariots. Egypt has 10 cities to our 5, and we are gaining nothing from this war, so it is time to make peace (at any cost).
This will make our tech deficit even worse, but I give Egypt Writing + 8g for peace. Egypt is now 6 techs ahead, but all we need is Ironworking to upgrade some of our veteran warriors, and we might be able to extort our way back to parity. Egypt is very powerful, and is going to take more than 1 war to take down.
It is less expensive to research techs than to buy them if you only know 1 opponent, so I switch research to Bronzeworking due in 5 turns to get to Ironworking.
(1) Start temple in New York so that it can work forests for shields instead of desert. Switch some warrior builds to workers.
(2) Move warriors away from Egypt to our cities for Police purposes.
(3) Boston is set up to be our troops factory and can produce a warrior every other turn for a future upgrade.
(4) Washington completes Settler->Temple (we are religious!). Whip the temple in New York.
(5) Bronzeworking learned, start Ironworking due in 12 turns.
(6) Egypt founded a city on the site I was sending the settler to, so I redirect the settler to a secondary site. Egypt looks like it may sneak attack as a War Chariot is approaching.
(7) No Egyptian attack yet.
(8) Boston is set to build a temple before it resumes warrior production.
(9) Washington completes temple->settler. Lux tax is lowered due to the temple. Egypt completes the Great Pyramids in Thebes
.(10) The Egyptian Chariot is still wandering around close to Atlanta, but try not to prevoke it (if it enters our territory, don't demand that it leave). A war with Egypt at this point would be difficult.
Zwingli
Prince
The best chance for dealing with Egypt is a swordsman upgrade in 10-15 turns to trim back some of their holdings on the border. Ironworking is due in 5 turns, and we have about 500g in the treasury which is enough to upgrade 12-13 warriors to swordsmen. Hopefully we have iron nearby, but if not try to find some in the jungle mountains to the south.
If Egypt already has all of the iron, the situation is difficult but certainly not impossible. Probably in that case we would have to try to peacefully coexist with Egypt and build our way up to tech parity.
The Save (I believe TedJackson is up)
Erik Mesoy
Core Tester / Intern
Originally posted by Gengis Khan
IT HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Cleo offers peace for 140 gold before we even have a casulty. *Looking back maybe this would have been a steal for me
I think this sums it up.
Yes, TedJackson is up since CivG and SAAM are on skip for the moment.
OK, Egypt are strong, but we knocked them out of settler mode. We lined across the continent, and are in a much better position to expand south than them.
TedJackson
Cunning old Celt
playing soon
Ted
Ted
TedJackson
Cunning old Celt
Preflight checks OK - Zwingli (as usual)
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Boston Temple - Spearman (build 1 spear per city)
Egypt starts the Colossus
1 - 730BC
Lux 10% (Washington growth)
Workers build roads and mines
2 - 710BC
Workers road and mine
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Washington Settler - spear
3 - 690BC
Lux 0%
Research 50% (2 turns)
Settler heads for mountain SW of Boston
Buy slave from Egypt for 28gp
IBT
Egyptian War Chariot returns to Egyptian territory
4 - 670BC
Workers working
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Discover Iron Working - start Map Making @80% (15 turns)
Boston Spearman - Warrior
5 - 650
Iron appears SSW of Atlanta, NNW of Chicago (outside our borders), 2 sites way down in the SW and the Egyptians only have 1 source midway between Elephantine & Memphis which isn't connected yet!
Workers rush to connect Iron
Spear heads to Atlanta
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Washington Spearman - Settler
6 - 630BC
Spear heads to Philadelphia
Pull back warrior from Atlanta to Boston (u/g)
Sell WM to Egypt for WM, TM + 44gp
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Boston Warrior - Settler
7 - 610BC
Workers still working
IBT
Iron is online
8 - 590BC
Upgrade 9 warriors for 360gp
Upgrade warrior for 40gp
Seattle founded - Temple
Upgrade warrior for 40gp
IBT
Chicago Worker - Temple (Assimilate the Iron NNW)
9 - 570BC
More roading
Send Vet Swordsmen N to Atlanta (staging)
Lux 10% (Washington growth)
Research 70% (10 turns)
IBT
Washington Settler - Spearman
New York Settler - Granary
10 - 550BC
Settler (Washington) heads SW along coast
Worker team follows Washington Settler
Settler (New York) heads for group of Incense SSW of Seattle
Upgrade 2 Warriors for 80gp
Lux 0% (+3gp/t - will improve when Settlers found cities)
What's on where:
Notes:
Need a few more spears for our SoD AND to defend our border towns
Suggest that taking out Egypt's luxuries is top priority
Don't forget to build a galley as soon as we have Map Making
The save is > here <
Go get 'em
Ted
Zwingli (as usual)IBT
Boston Temple - Spearman (build 1 spear per city)
Egypt starts the Colossus
1 - 730BC
Lux 10% (Washington growth)
Workers build roads and mines
2 - 710BC
Workers road and mine
IBT
Washington Settler - spear
3 - 690BC
Lux 0%
Research 50% (2 turns)
Settler heads for mountain SW of Boston
Buy slave from Egypt for 28gp
IBT
Egyptian War Chariot returns to Egyptian territory
4 - 670BC
Workers working
IBT
Discover Iron Working - start Map Making @80% (15 turns)
Boston Spearman - Warrior
5 - 650
Iron appears SSW of Atlanta, NNW of Chicago (outside our borders), 2 sites way down in the SW and the Egyptians only have 1 source midway between Elephantine & Memphis which isn't connected yet!
Workers rush to connect Iron
Spear heads to Atlanta
IBT
Washington Spearman - Settler
6 - 630BC
Spear heads to Philadelphia
Pull back warrior from Atlanta to Boston (u/g)
Sell WM to Egypt for WM, TM + 44gp
IBT
Boston Warrior - Settler
7 - 610BC
Workers still working
IBT
Iron is online
8 - 590BC
Upgrade 9 warriors for 360gp
Upgrade warrior for 40gp
Seattle founded - Temple
Upgrade warrior for 40gp
IBT
Chicago Worker - Temple (Assimilate the Iron NNW)
9 - 570BC
More roading
Send Vet Swordsmen N to Atlanta (staging)
Lux 10% (Washington growth)
Research 70% (10 turns)
IBT
Washington Settler - Spearman
New York Settler - Granary
10 - 550BC
Settler (Washington) heads SW along coast
Worker team follows Washington Settler
Settler (New York) heads for group of Incense SSW of Seattle
Upgrade 2 Warriors for 80gp
Lux 0% (+3gp/t - will improve when Settlers found cities)
What's on where:
Notes:
Need a few more spears for our SoD AND to defend our border towns
Suggest that taking out Egypt's luxuries is top priority
Don't forget to build a galley as soon as we have Map Making
The save is > here <
Go get 'em
Ted
TedJackson
Cunning old Celt
Erik Mesoy <--- Up Now!
Genghis Khan <--- On Deck
Zwingli
Stuck_As_A_Mac <--- On Vacation
CivGeneral <--- On Vacation
TedJackson
Ted
Genghis Khan <--- On Deck
Zwingli
Stuck_As_A_Mac <--- On Vacation
CivGeneral <--- On Vacation
TedJackson
Ted
