Ethiopians?

[PimpyMicPimp]

Always the slight touch of racism when talking about African civs...

Another reason why I hate North Americans.

Well, humans in general

 

[ZB2]

I think it might be becuase all humanity evolved from afrika, yet they have the lowest population of all continents (Par austrialia) and seem inferior to what the migrating humans in the east and west have acomplished. to see the roots of humanity in such a state might be why some people produce such bigoted views :z

 

[Monty Python Ni]

Always the slight touch of racism when talking about African civs...

I've missed a bunch of replies... who said something racist?

 

[Lord_Sidious]

Ethiopia was a very good adding. Ethiopia, Egypt and Carthage were without a doubt the most influental african civilizations.

Jah Emperor Haile Selassie I Bless You All

 

[.Shane.]

And they had Haile Selassie, one of the most fun leaders of all time. And he's a modern leader at that.

Right, and you could add the religion of Rastafarianism.

 

[Lord_Sidious]

Rastafarianism was never a religion of Ethiopia. Ethiopia was and is Orthodox.

 

[Solver]

Ethiopia was a lot of things. It's been Jewish and Muslim, too - it still has a mix of religions with a large number of both Orthodox and Muslim people.

 

[Ogedei_the_Mad]

If I recall correctly, there's also a church in Ethiopia that claims to hold the Ark of the Covenant.

 

[bonafide11]

I think it might be becuase all humanity evolved from afrika, yet they have the lowest population of all continents (Par austrialia) and seem inferior to what the migrating humans in the east and west have acomplished. to see the roots of humanity in such a state might be why some people produce such bigoted views :z

Ummm... No, it sounds more like you're just trying to defend your own racist views... Based on what I've seen in your other posts on this issue, you have a lot to learn.

 

[Tekee]

ZB2 is right, I am happy that Ethipoians are in but seriously Western Civilization and Eastern Civilization has had a bigger impact on the world then the Afrikans Civilizations,
Of course I think civilization just needs evenly spread out civs, not 20 europeans,

 

[bonafide11]

ZB2 is right, I am happy that Ethipoians are in but seriously Western Civilization and Eastern Civilization has had a bigger impact on the world then the Afrikans Civilizations,
Of course I think civilization just needs evenly spread out civs, not 20 europeans,

Yet another ignorant Civfanatic. All ancient empires, and most contemporary empires, had their hands in Africa. You do not have the Persian, the Greek, the French, or the English empire (and many others) without Africa!! Learn some history before displaying your ignorance.

 

[Bakuel]

Man these topics grow pretty fast…

@ZB2
What?! I helped change someone’s mind on a forum?! On the internets?! This has never happened before…

Baaaa! I hate to argue over importance of civs or compare how much “impact” they had.
That’s more of a can of worms then anything. In my eyes the world has been hit by so much impact, thanks to different “civs”, that it’s almost about to fall apart anyway.
Maybe you guys should just read more about Africa and it’s civilizations. They’re nothing like “Western” civilizations or “Eastern” civilizations for sure.
But then again nothing’s like “Western” civilization or “Eastern” civilization in the first place, so it’s pretty worthless to compare them.
Learn more about Africa, it may surprise you about how much “impact” they had. Or at the very lest it will widen your understanding of the world and the people in it, after all, that's a pretty noble goal in itself right?

 

[Swein Forkbeard]

I think it might be becuase all humanity evolved from afrika, yet they have the lowest population of all continents (Par austrialia) and seem inferior to what the migrating humans in the east and west have acomplished. to see the roots of humanity in such a state might be why some people produce such bigoted views :z

Actually, Africa has the highest population of all continents except for Asia!

 

[KrikkitTwo]

hands in Africa.

"Hands in" is different than impact/contribution, most civilizations have had their hands in Agriculture but there is not a Wheat civilization.

Now while it is useful to have the "Hands in" civilizations,
for the what if/turnaround feeling (Native Americans forcing Washington to Capitulate)
and
the background, since the exploited/conquered group is useful to have for recreations (ie Native Americans, Incas, Aztecs, Mayans, Celts, Carthaginians, Zulus are necessary as 'minor civs' when dealing with the major powers of their time, because what the minors do may decide what major power gets control)

That is not to say that they had as much direct impact/contribution as the major civilizations that were impacting them.
Now, while civilizations South of the Sahara didn't have as big of an impact as ones North of it, they still made significant contributions, and did have an impact.
New World civilizations had even smaller impact/contribution than Old World civilizations.

This is why there are only 3 South of Sahara civs and only 4 New World Civs as opposed to 27 Old World and North of Sahara civs (or 5, 4, and 25 if you want to count African, American, and Eurasian origin) ['America' pretty much has to fall into the Eurasian Civs] Of course a lot more of that has to do with the fact that the Eurasian civs are pretty much the only ones with the wealth to buy computer games by the 21st century. (but the reason for that has to do with thier greater impact)

The fact is with the Malinese and the Ethiopians they made good choices of some of the African civs with strong Impact and contribution (particularly as representing the West+ East African Trade regions) definitely equivalent to Eurasian ones like Portugal and Netherlands.

 

[Phoenix1595]

For those interested: the new screenshots from IGN seem to indicate that Aksum will be the capital of Ethiopia... I think someone was asking earlier in the post.

 

[sydhe]

Their flag is green with a pentagram symbol on it.

 

[Pangur Bán]

"Ethiopia" (clearly meaning Axum-Abyssinia) is worthy of a place. The Dutch are only worthy of a place if you are horrendously Eurocentric; I mean, its traits and UBs are going to make it a builder powerhouse which will dominate many civs games, kind of strange for an ethnically meaningless "civilization" half the size of Scotland. Yeah, getting control of a tiny fraction of the non-European world in the modern era from tribes and states whose technology range extended all the way from the Stone Age to the heights of medieval technology is really a great achievement! The Netherlands was never more than a second tier power even in Europe, even in its 17th century hey-day, whereas "Ethiopia" was a great regional political and cultural superpower for millennia. It is to East Africa what Germany in to West and Central Europe, whereas Djibouti would be a better comparison with the Netherlands.
(Don't get me wrong, I love Holland and Dutch culture, but that don't make their "civilization" equivalent to China, Incas or Axum)

And hey, Axum was a much more impressive civilization than guys like the Franks, who were also added to the game under the inaccurate name "Holy Roman Empire". But, I guess being in the West, even when the West was an unimportant backwater further from the mainstream of world culture than East Africa ... is enough!

 

[witten]

I think it might be becuase all humanity evolved from afrika, yet they have the lowest population of all continents (Par austrialia) and seem inferior to what the migrating humans in the east and west have acomplished. to see the roots of humanity in such a state might be why some people produce such bigoted views :z

Grow up man, you are such an idiot.

May I say that the greatest achievements of western civilization was rampant colonization and destruction of the other parts of the world, killing billions in the name of their God, and enjoying extravagant lifestyle owing to sacrifice of those "inferior" civilizations you mentioned, among others..?
I would rather not.

Where did that vague concepts of superior/inferior come from? Perhaps from your ignorance and arrogance?

 

[witten]

The only non-Island nation to have always ruled itself.

I heard Thailand is known for the same, at least the only one in Asia. Not 100% sure though.

 

[ParkCungHee]

Sort of. 1941-45 It remained independent, but how much it was self-rule is debatable. It is the only one in Asia to never have become a colony.