European Diplomacy Three- True World War

[Ekolite]

In the last game izipo liked to hear what we were planning and what are aims were, if we send our aims in our orders and our orders are stolen by someone else, will you tell them our aims that were in our PM to you?

If they will I think I'll keep my plans to myself lol.

EDIT: Also, is there still the domination style victory? The same as in Izipo's?

 

[Stuck in Pi]

I'll take a reserve sign up!!

 

[Backwards Logic]

I don't mean to gripe here, but it seems like Europe doesn't have a whole lot of territory to expand to compared to the rest of the world. I'd hate to be at a disadvantage because I can't expand as far as everyone else.

 

[Ekolite]

Europe has a great expansion opportunity if you do the right thing on your firt turn.

 

[Tasslehoff]

Overall plans will not be revealed in plans when stolen. See objective for the victory details.

Balancing expansion opportunities was one of the most difficult things for this map. I had originally planned to include India and Ghana as nations (I may yet do so), but I was afraid of the limitations on Europe, Australia, and South African expansions. As it is, Europe has decent expansion into Eastern Europe, and may also expand into North Africa. If I deem that a country has a much weaker expansion, that country will receive a proportionately stronger special ability.

EDIT: And thanks to everybody who has sent in Special Ability ideas!

 

[LightFang]

Can't wait till the game starts. I'm dying to know what my special ability is.

 

[Ekolite]

Yeah same here.

Are we waiting for Izipo's to finish before this one starts? TBH it is pretty much finished anyway, I doubt me and Italy will last too much longer lol.

EDIT: Also, I was thinking, an interesting variant to DE would be 'Ancient diplomacy' centered around the med' sea, Nations would be Rome, Greece, Egypt, Carthage, Gauls, Germanian barb tribe, etc. Also, if someone could design a map there could be a diplomacy FFH lol. You could use city names for the regions. Obviously for either of these ideas the rules would need to be reworked quite a bit but still, would be cool.

 

[Tasslehoff]

Chances are, I'm going to add a West African nation and an Asian nation before starting, because I want to give Izipo a spot. Might also tweak some starting area to encourage more even expansion.

As for specials, I still need to figure them out . I'll send out the ability PMs as soon as I figure it all.

Glad to see the players are as excited about the game as I am!

 

[Backwards Logic]

Just curious, but why does W Au already have a naval base according to the map?

 

[Tasslehoff]

I put the naval base on to give Australia a decent chance at keeping up with expansion. Otherwise, Australia's first turn is basically wasted while they build one.

 

[Izipo]

Merry Christmas to everyone !

Tasslehoff, just one thing : WTH IS THIS ??!!?!!



Seriously now, where's my country ?
I'll be Mali if that's in the books. Sign me up as a reserve otherwise (South Africa I'm watching you closely... )

This is looking good, excellent map. I'll have a closer look at the rules, but I'm glad the franchise is living a life of its own

EDIT : What a nice set of rules
I spot a small problem : Paratroopers built in Florida, can airdrop in France... You might wan to add a limitation or something...
Also, if you want feedback on the combat process, do not hesitate to PM me.

 

[Niklas]

Sign-up during christmas eh? Maybe I'll break the alliance with France just to keep that game lasting a bit longer, just to spite you. (or not)

Seriously though, I'll confirm that reserve spot you've saved for me (thanks!) and hope for a similar unfolding of events as for Izipo's game.

 

[Ekolite]

Yes, similiar, but not quite the same.

Also, Im, not quite sure if I like the espionage thing. I really get it and I dont know i people are going to be able to afford it as well as an army bigger then next door's. How much woyuld it actually help anyway.

 

[Tasslehoff]

Izipo, I've put you in as Mali. Niklas, if Frozen In Ice doesn't come for India, it's yours. If he does, you've got first reserve.

As for paratroopers- I could've sworn I put something in there... Mumblemumble edit rules. For the purposes of paratrooping, water areas act as two movement. So at best, you can paradrop across one body of water, coast->coast.

@Kol.7: I think Espionage will be quite useful when combined with good strategy. If you stop all infantry going into a key territory you're attacking, you can save much more cash in saved troops than you spend.

As it is, espionage is way more expensive than it's worth. However, 5-10 turns in, the much increased budgets could easily make Espionage worth it. I might change the espionage costs, perhaps make it based on average income? If you have suggestions, I'm willing to hear them.

 

[LightFang]

I'm making a note right now that I've never played Diplomacy before (I don't count Switzerland, seriously guys ) so I expect the almighty mod to help me with orders. I'll turn them in early and expect some critique or something. >:|

 

[Niklas]

LightFang, you've played Diplomacy many times before, and even hosted a game of your own. Then again, this game isn't Diplomacy, even if it's based on it and called the same thing.

Regarding espionage, I think costs should be fixed. Either that or based on the economic value of the nation being spied on, not your own income.

 

[thomas.berubeg]

I can see a version of this game based on Orson scott card's Shadow series (the bean quartet)

 

[Tasslehoff]

World Map updated. China and Mali are now on the map, SSSR territory changed, WAu Naval Base moved.

 

[thomas.berubeg]

Can the next reserve be the hegemony?

(based in brazil, with random territories throughout the map?)



oh... and bris won't play. (unless she posts here herslef to say she will, but i seriously doubt it)

 

[LosingT]

I can make a pretty big world map, if you are looking to fill more people in, because I see a bunch that wants to play