Evidence for creationism

[Haseri]

I dread to ask this: but why should it be inside the Sun?

 

[ParadigmShifter]

I dread to ask this: but why should it be inside the Sun?

 

[Smidlee]

Fact : the world requires for most life to prey on another to survive. There is diseases. There is natural disasters. How can all that comes from a completely benevolent and all-powerful creator ?
Does not compute.

So eating chicken is evil? Yet the scripture does claim during the reign of Christ there were be world peace including the animal kingdom yet at the end men will hate it so bad they will raise up against Christ the first chance they get.
Peace is something we know deep down is good yet it's very boring and unappealing to the flesh. War is a lot more interesting. This is why Hollywood can create a much more interesting Hell then they can of Heaven which looks extremely dull.

 

[GhostWriter16]

Evolution is a theory, because it has masses and masses of evidence backing it up, whether or not you disagree with it.

I hardly think the evidence backing it up qualifies as "Masses and masses"

We're at over 500 posts in this thread and no credible creationist evidence has been presented at all, therefore the Genesis account is at best a hypothesis, veering all the way down to the mythology of scientifically unaware tribal people.

I don't think there are any scientists who believe the Greek or Egyptian Myths happened. Yet many, along with 10-45% of scientists, believe the Creation "Myth" happened.

In short, its not a myth. Maybe not true, but lots of scientific evidence backs it up. At the very least, no less than you have for evolution.

 

[ParadigmShifter]

That's pretty weird since you insist scientists must observe evolution happening but then cite 10-45% of them believing in the Creation myth, have they existed since the beginning of time?

 

[Smidlee]

Evolution itself is a creation myth.

 

[GhostWriter16]

Nope

Meaning we can't know for sure, at least not scientifically.

However, we have no way of knowing anything happened more than 6,000 years ago, and what did happen, and when it happened, is fuzzy.

@Smidlee-

Technically you are right

 

[Haseri]

10-45% is a big range. Maybe narrow it down?

Maybe not true, but lots of scientific evidence backs it up.

That's the sound of my brain trying to escape.

 

[ParadigmShifter]

But you admit you know nothing abut science, so why bring it up?

Do you want me making ill informed judgements about religion, over and over again?

 

[Arakhor]

I don't think there are any scientists who believe the Greek or Egyptian Myths happened. Yet many, along with 10-45% of scientists, believe the Creation "Myth" happened.

In short, its not a myth. Maybe not true, but lots of scientific evidence backs it up. At the very least, no less than you have for evolution.

Citations please. Read the thread title and then get back to me.

Evolution itself is a creation myth.

If you have nothing worthwhile to say, don't bother posting. The thread title is "evidence for creationism", not "soap box for creationist trolling".

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

I hardly think

I'm with you so far ..

the evidence backing it up qualifies as "Masses and masses"

Regardless of what you think, it's a fact there's a mountain of evidence.

But if you refuse to look, you indeed will hardly think

there's a masses and masses of evidence.

Yet many, along with 10-45% of scientists, believe the Creation "Myth" happened.

Two things since you seem to use this claim as a shield to prevent direct answers a lot.

10-45% is a little wide in the margin area. Where did you get this spectacular unspecific claim from? And why is the margin so wide?

Just being a scientist doesn't tell me much. Show me the percentage of scientist studying biology who believe in Creation.

 

[Tacitusitis]

I hardly think the evidence backing it up qualifies as "Masses and masses"

It's not really up to you. It's not like science is hanging around waiting for your imprimatur.

Also you have pretty much proven that you don't know a lot about this topic since you use the words "microevolution" and "macroevolution" like they mean something.

Also also, you don't seem to be very coherent on exactly how true or false evolution is. First there's "not enough evidence," then it's "a logical fallacy," then there is "at the very least no less evidence for creation."

 

[GhostWriter16]

Actually, I meant 10-45% of American citizens, NOT scientists. Dunno how many scientists believe it, only that there are a lot of them.

As for the wide margin, I think I read it on Wikipedia.

 

[ParadigmShifter]

Solid arguments there then

 

[Smidlee]

Citations please. Read the thread title and then get back to me.


If you have nothing worthwhile to say, don't bother posting. The thread title is "evidence for creationism", not "soap box for creationist trolling".

Trolling? I'm not the only one who stated that and they are not always creationists.
I've posted what we know as facts which are based on today's knowledge and how they apply to understanding the past. A lot of ToE is nothing but story telling.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Trolling?

It was either trolling or ignorance.

 

[Smidlee]

It was either trolling or ignorance.

There are plenty of ignorance to go around since evolutionist will often use ignorance as a defense of why some evidence does not fit their theory.

 

[Haseri]

Dommie, I just checked Wikipedia. 55%. And only 5% believe in YEC.

And, a much older finding.

Science isn't a popularity contest like religion or politics is.

An example of this evidence Smidlee?

 

[Tacitusitis]

Actually, I meant 10-45% of American citizens, NOT scientists. Dunno how many scientists believe it, only that there are a lot of them.

As for the wide margin, I think I read it on Wikipedia.

Well by this standard Obama is a Muslim, although I "dunno how many scientists believe that."

 

[GhostWriter16]

There are plenty of ignorance to go around since evolutionist will often use ignorance as a defense of why some evidence does not fit their theory.

This is often true

I admit I'm too ignorant to disprove evolution, so I'm not going to try. I don't have a problem with it as a POSSIBLE SCIENTIFIC THEORY. But I don't believe in it and it is certainly not fact.

Remember, theory just means a hypothesis which passed a basic test. Doesn't make it true