evilbible.com

[Yuri2356]

That site......is typical of an atheist, persecuting something they know nothing about by simply grabbing a few good "quotes" from it. My favorite one is, "God ordered the murder of 70,000 innocent women and children israelites". Yup he did, but typical of an atheist they dont bother with the whole rest of the bible. We are bad people, God is perfect, besides the fact that he created us he has the rite to kill off whomever he pleases. In truth, we should all be dead anyways already.

Hrm...

Because he created humanity he has the right to slay us at will. Ergo, because a parent created their child, the reserve the right to end its life at any point in time.

 

[Ecclesiastes]

But they are taken out of context, yes, he did order the killing of thousands of poeple. But he is God, he is perfect, we are sinners he has the rite to. These atheist sites dont make that clear or dont want to make that clear and it just grinds my gears bad when the religion is misinterpreted.

 

[Kozmos]

If christians are being persecuted in place where they are not a major religion, just imagine how much atheists are being shot down.

 

[.Shane.]

Ever heard of a man named Abdul Rahman? an Afghan Christian who converted from Islam to Christianity who was put on trial because he broke Islamic Law in regards to apostate. Over where Christianity is not a religious majority, Christians are persecuted by the religious majority.

Ever read my whole post? I was talking about the US. Again, tell me how YOU have been persecuted.

No doubt in other places different people of different faiths have been persecuted for different reasons by different people. This is so obvious I didn't think it bares (sp?) mentioning. The point is, its not unique to being Christian. Its a function of man to persecute.

Now, please, tell me who you have been persecuted.

 

[Ecclesiastes]

Hrm...

Because he created humanity he has the right to slay us at will. Ergo, because a parent created their child, the reserve the right to end its life at any point in time.

No no no no no no no. ahhh jeez ima take a break.

 

[Sahkuhnder]

My mother gets out of all of this by saying "Well, the Bible wasn't written by God."

Fair enough.

Then should we blindly follow it? Wouldn't it then be even more important that we question it and analyze the statements it contains? What about CivGeneral's statement that "I see the Holy Bible not to be questioned since it is the word of God."?

You can't both dismiss it as imperfect and also say it is above being questioned.

 

[Ecclesiastes]

Ever read my whole post? I was talking about the US. Again, tell me how YOU have been persecuted.

No doubt in other places different people of different faiths have been persecuted for different reasons by different people. This is so obvious I didn't think it bares (sp?) mentioning. The point is, its not unique to being Christian. Its a function of man to persecute.

Now, please, tell me who you have been persecuted.

Hi I live in California, as you can probably tell by my posts im a little pisssed off. I went through San Fransisco today to talk to an old friend. I visited some shops and the like to wearing a white shirt that said "Cornerstone Community Church". I was knoecked three time today for my shirt, two of which were aimed directly at Christianity. This happens quite regularly actually. It gets a little old.

 

[FreeTerminus]

But they are taken out of context, yes, he did order the killing of thousands of poeple. But he is God, he is perfect, we are sinners he has the rite to. These atheist sites dont make that clear or dont want to make that clear and it just grinds my gears bad when the religion is misinterpreted.

Hmm...I guess that makes your god an evil god, doesn't it?

Then should we blindly follow it? .

I would say you should probably never blindly follow anything.
My mother is the theist - I'm the atheist.

 

[Ecclesiastes]

Hmm...I guess that makes your god an evil god, doesn't it?



I would say you should probably never blindly follow anything.
My mother is the theist - I'm the atheist.

How????(10 char.)

 

[FreeTerminus]

How????(10 char.)

I guess I just believe that killing large numbers of people just because someone wants to is wrong.

 

[El_Machinae]

Holy Smokes!

1 Cor 7:36

If anyone thinks he is behaving improperly toward his virgin, and if a critical moment has come and so it has to be, let him do as he wishes. He is committing no sin; let them get married.

I wonder what "behaving improperly to his virgin" meant when Paul was writing it? 'Cause it sounds like it endorses date rape.

 

[Shadylookin]

We dont decide, Jesus died for our sins. Like I said, this sight is full of typical atheist outlook on Christianity. They read little snippets of the bible and take what they need from it to make it look bad.

how exactly can you spin genocide in a positive light?

The site won't change any minds because most christians never read the bible, those that did and are still christians apparently covered their eyes when the bad parts came up.

 

[GenMarshall]

Now, please, tell me who you have been persecuted.

I have not been persecuted. Perhaps Discriminated againt or spat at by Hardline Protestants, but not persecuted. Forturnately I dont live in the south where the KKK have persecuted Catholics (KKK does not always persecute African Americans)

 

[MrCynical]

"God ordered the murder of 70,000 innocent women and children israelites". Yup he did, but typical of an atheist they dont bother with the whole rest of the bible. We are bad people, God is perfect, besides the fact that he created us he has the rite to kill off whomever he pleases. In truth, we should all be dead anyways already.

I'm struggling to express how much the above comment stuns and sickens me. The claim that the 70,000 murdered, despite the fact you've acknowledged they were innocent, and apparently murdered for some trivial perceived slight against this "God", were "bad people" is ludicrous. They probably had committed the trivial sins of all humans, but none would have come close to a massacre of 70,000. Yet you have the gall to claim that this mass murderer is "perfect". No one has the right to do this, whether they created those people or not. If God exists, then he must be of supreme moral excellence, but I doubt there is enough time left in the universe to inflict the torments the being described in the Old Testament deserves in retribution.

If God is good and benevolent, then even he is subordinate to morality. If his rules and commandments are of any value, then he too must obey them. Oh, and lose the argument that every human is some terrible sinner who deserves to die. Few have committed a sin worthy of that in their lives, yet the being of the Old Testament commits these crimes on many occasions. No doubt someone will spin some argument that because they eat the apple in the Garden of Eden (wow, the horror of such a sin compared to the casual massacre of 70,000), we're all sinneres. This is of course utter rubbish. No one is responsible for the actions of their distant ancestors, just their actions alone.

 

[Kozmos]

Holy Smokes!

1 Cor 7:36

I'm converting to christianity NAO.

 

[.Shane.]

Hi I live in California, as you can probably tell by my posts im a little pisssed off. I went through San Fransisco today to talk to an old friend. I visited some shops and the like to wearing a white shirt that said "Cornerstone Community Church". I was knoecked three time today for my shirt, two of which were aimed directly at Christianity. This happens quite regularly actually. It gets a little old.

Its annoying and rude, I agree, but is that persecution? Maybe in the very weakest sense of the word, but not in the way that most people think of it.

If I wore my t-shirt depicting Marx, Lenin, Castro, Mao, and Stalin partying (the "communist party", get it?) in BFEgypt, Alabama, I suspect, I'd get some sh*t my way. I doubt I'd consider myself persecuted or see fit to post in rages about it.

edit: The point is, the problem is not "Christians are persecuted", rather the problem is "people are persecuted".

 

[Rad Chris]

I preffer the skeptics annotated bible.

And you cant tell me that Christians are being persecuted when Atheists are the most hated group in america.

 

[FreeTerminus]

If being made fun of while wearing a shirt qualifies as persecution...
What does being assaulted or killed because your gay qualify as?

 

[MobBoss]

Ever read my whole post? I was talking about the US. Again, tell me how YOU have been persecuted.

No doubt in other places different people of different faiths have been persecuted for different reasons by different people. This is so obvious I didn't think it bares (sp?) mentioning. The point is, its not unique to being Christian. Its a function of man to persecute.

Now, please, tell me who you have been persecuted.

Well, I do have one instance. My wife is studying for her masters degree in marriage and family counseling with emphasis on it being christian based. One class she was currently taking was group therapy and in this class people were encouraged to share experiences and learn how to conduct such sessions. Part of the class was a personal journal that was to be reviewed periodically for a grade. Her professor was very liberal and would roll her eyes and have other negative body language whenever anyone would discuss religion in regards to counseling. The professor even had the class view a explicite movie concerning lesbian sex - about a third of the class walked out of the movie as it was essentially porn.

The final straw came when my wife had turned in her private journal and her professor had reviewed it and wrote in ink on the front "you will not pass this class unless you get your religion out of it". This in what was supposed to be a private journal of my wifes thoughts of the class. Now, how is a person supposed to study for a career in christian based counseling but be required to leave her religion out?

My wife took her complaint to the head of the psychology department and the head agreed with my wife. My wife was allowed to drop the class, was refunded all her money for the class and the liberal professor was formally reprimanded.

 

[.Shane.]

My wife took her complaint to the head of the psychology department and the head agreed with my wife. My wife was allowed to drop the class, was refunded all her money for the class and the liberal professor was formally reprimanded.

Right, so the problem was rectified, the professor punished. In other words, your wife's experience was not the norm and once brought to light, was not to be tolerated.

I think your experience and how it was resolved backs up my the gist of my point.

This next comment is not so much directed at you, just an fyi, but I think we need to QUIT focusing on this or that religion or belief and just realize that persecution is problem of humanity. Its cure is tolerance.