Exploration Continued Expanded (Obsolete)

Chrisy15 · Jan 10, 2016

Zares said:
I haven't Scouts in Trapping tech. My Great Scout can't found cities. I don't know what could cause such problems.

I enabled CBP support in settings file and

Should I activate mods in specific order or anything to do more in order to work properly?

List of mods + lack of Scout in Trapping tech:

Spoiler :

Can you build the scouts at Trapping, though? There's a limit of 5 items displayed on a tech, so it might just be that it isn't visible.

Zares · Jan 10, 2016

Chrisy15 said:
Can you build the scouts at Trapping, though? There's a limit of 5 items displayed on a tech, so it might just be that it isn't visible.

I can train them before Trapping tech researched :/

Chrisy15 · Jan 10, 2016

Zares said:
I can train them before Trapping tech researched :/

Does this happen only when the full CBP is active?

Also, database log?

Zares · Jan 10, 2016

I didn't test without CBP.

Database.log

Spoiler :

Chrisy15 · Jan 10, 2016

Zares said:
I didn't test without CBP.

Database.log

Spoiler :

[1397272.906] columns StrategicViewType, TileType are not unique
[1397272.906] While executing - 'INSERT INTO ArtDefine_StrategicView(StrategicViewType, TileType, Asset) VALUES(?,?,?)'
[1397323.437] no such table: ContentPackage.LocalizedText
[1397324.921] no such table: ContentPackage.LocalizedText
[1397330.921] columns StrategicViewType, TileType are not unique
[1397330.921] While executing - 'INSERT INTO ArtDefine_StrategicView(StrategicViewType, TileType, Asset) VALUES(?,?,?)'
[1397332.406] no such table: ContentPackage.LocalizedText
[1397343.750] Validating Foreign Key Constraints...
[1397343.750] Invalid Reference on ArtDefine_Landmarks.LayoutHandler - "SPECIAL" does not exist in ArtDefine_LandmarkTypes
[1397343.750] Invalid Reference on ArtDefine_Landmarks.LayoutHandler - "SPECIAL" does not exist in ArtDefine_LandmarkTypes
[1397343.750] Invalid Reference on ArtDefine_Landmarks.LayoutHandler - "SPECIAL" does not exist in ArtDefine_LandmarkTypes
[1397343.750] Invalid Reference on ArtDefine_Landmarks.LayoutHandler - "SPECIAL" does not exist in ArtDefine_LandmarkTypes
[1397343.750] Invalid Reference on ArtDefine_Landmarks.LayoutHandler - "SPECIAL" does not exist in ArtDefine_LandmarkTypes
[1397343.750] Invalid Reference on ArtDefine_Landmarks.LayoutHandler - "SPECIAL" does not exist in ArtDefine_LandmarkTypes
[1397343.750] Invalid Reference on ArtDefine_Landmarks.LayoutHandler - "SPECIAL" does not exist in ArtDefine_LandmarkTypes
[1397343.750] Invalid Reference on ArtDefine_Landmarks.LayoutHandler - "SPECIAL" does not exist in ArtDefine_LandmarkTypes
[1397343.750] Invalid Reference on ArtDefine_Landmarks.LayoutHandler - "SPECIAL" does not exist in ArtDefine_LandmarkTypes
[1397347.406] Failed Validation.
[1397348.171]
-- SQLite Memory Statistics --
Memory Usage:
[Cur] [Max]
Malloc: 8541096 78105968
PageCache: 7 13
LookAside: 0 0
Scratch: 0 1

Static Buffer Overflows:
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PageCache: 8119104 65215080
Scratch: 0 0

Largest Allocations:
Malloc: 262144
PageCache: 1172
Scratch: 6664

Prepared Statements:
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[1397348.218] Validating Foreign Key Constraints...
[1397348.218] Invalid Reference on ArtDefine_Landmarks.LayoutHandler - "SPECIAL" does not exist in ArtDefine_LandmarkTypes
[1397348.218] Invalid Reference on ArtDefine_Landmarks.LayoutHandler - "SPECIAL" does not exist in ArtDefine_LandmarkTypes
[1397348.218] Invalid Reference on ArtDefine_Landmarks.LayoutHandler - "SPECIAL" does not exist in ArtDefine_LandmarkTypes
[1397348.218] Invalid Reference on ArtDefine_Landmarks.LayoutHandler - "SPECIAL" does not exist in ArtDefine_LandmarkTypes
[1397348.218] Invalid Reference on ArtDefine_Landmarks.LayoutHandler - "SPECIAL" does not exist in ArtDefine_LandmarkTypes
[1397348.218] Invalid Reference on ArtDefine_Landmarks.LayoutHandler - "SPECIAL" does not exist in ArtDefine_LandmarkTypes
[1397348.218] Invalid Reference on ArtDefine_Landmarks.LayoutHandler - "SPECIAL" does not exist in ArtDefine_LandmarkTypes
[1397348.218] Invalid Reference on ArtDefine_Landmarks.LayoutHandler - "SPECIAL" does not exist in ArtDefine_LandmarkTypes
[1397348.218] Invalid Reference on ArtDefine_Landmarks.LayoutHandler - "SPECIAL" does not exist in ArtDefine_LandmarkTypes
[1397351.859] Failed Validation.
[1397352.640]
-- SQLite Memory Statistics --
Memory Usage:
[Cur] [Max]
Malloc: 8542272 78105968
PageCache: 7 13
LookAside: 0 0
Scratch: 0 1

Static Buffer Overflows:
[TooLarge] [NoSpace]
PageCache: 8120280 65215080
Scratch: 0 0

Largest Allocations:
Malloc: 262144
PageCache: 1172
Scratch: 6664

Prepared Statements:
Current: 6
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[1397909.453] column Type is not unique
[1397909.453] column Type is not unique
[1397909.484] column Type is not unique
[1397909.484] column Type is not unique
[1397952.484] columns Language, Tag are not unique
[1397952.484] While executing - 'insert into Language_en_US('Tag', 'Text') values (?, ?);'
[1397952.484] In XMLSerializer while inserting row into table insert into Language_en_US('Tag', 'Text') with values (TXT_KEY_TRO_LOCATE_RECALL_TT, Click to view, Control-Click to recall, ).
[1397952.484] In XMLSerializer while updating table Language_en_US from file XML/UITradeRoutesEnhancements.xml.
[1397952.484] columns Language, Tag are not unique
[1397961.406] table ArtDefine_StrategicView has no column named LandmarkType
[1397970.578] Validating Foreign Key Constraints...
[1397970.578] Invalid Reference on ArtDefine_Landmarks.LayoutHandler - "SPECIAL" does not exist in ArtDefine_LandmarkTypes
[1397970.578] Invalid Reference on ArtDefine_Landmarks.LayoutHandler - "SPECIAL" does not exist in ArtDefine_LandmarkTypes
[1397970.578] Invalid Reference on ArtDefine_Landmarks.LayoutHandler - "SPECIAL" does not exist in ArtDefine_LandmarkTypes
[1397970.578] Invalid Reference on ArtDefine_Landmarks.LayoutHandler - "SPECIAL" does not exist in ArtDefine_LandmarkTypes
[1397970.578] Invalid Reference on ArtDefine_Landmarks.LayoutHandler - "SPECIAL" does not exist in ArtDefine_LandmarkTypes
[1397970.578] Invalid Reference on ArtDefine_Landmarks.LayoutHandler - "SPECIAL" does not exist in ArtDefine_LandmarkTypes
[1397970.578] Invalid Reference on ArtDefine_Landmarks.LayoutHandler - "SPECIAL" does not exist in ArtDefine_LandmarkTypes
[1397970.578] Invalid Reference on ArtDefine_Landmarks.LayoutHandler - "SPECIAL" does not exist in ArtDefine_LandmarkTypes
[1397970.578] Invalid Reference on ArtDefine_Landmarks.LayoutHandler - "SPECIAL" does not exist in ArtDefine_LandmarkTypes
[1397973.937] Invalid Reference on Improvement_ResourceTypes.ResourceType - "RESOURCE_JFD_FEATHERS" does not exist in Resources
[1397974.781] Invalid Reference on Units.Help - "TXT_KEY_UNIT_CHOOSEGP" does not exist in Language_en_US
[1397974.875] Invalid Reference on Units.Strategy - "TXT_KEY_UNIT_CHOOSEGP" does not exist in Language_en_US
[1397974.968] Invalid Reference on Units.Civilopedia - "TXT_KEY_UNIT_CHOOSEGP" does not exist in Language_en_US
[1397975.062] Invalid Reference on Units.Description - "TXT_KEY_UNIT_CHOOSEGP" does not exist in Language_en_US
[1397976.984] Failure to check references for foreign key Resource_YagemRegionPosition(Type).
[1397976.984] no such table: Region
[1397976.984] Failed Validation.
[1397978.968]
-- SQLite Memory Statistics --
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Malloc: 12774776 78105968
PageCache: 9 219
LookAside: 0 0
Scratch: 0 1

Static Buffer Overflows:
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PageCache: 11854080 65215080
Scratch: 0 0

Largest Allocations:
Malloc: 262144
PageCache: 1172
Scratch: 6664

Prepared Statements:
Current: 14
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[1397979.078] Validating Foreign Key Constraints...
[1397979.078] Invalid Reference on ArtDefine_Landmarks.LayoutHandler - "SPECIAL" does not exist in ArtDefine_LandmarkTypes
[1397979.078] Invalid Reference on ArtDefine_Landmarks.LayoutHandler - "SPECIAL" does not exist in ArtDefine_LandmarkTypes
[1397979.078] Invalid Reference on ArtDefine_Landmarks.LayoutHandler - "SPECIAL" does not exist in ArtDefine_LandmarkTypes
[1397979.078] Invalid Reference on ArtDefine_Landmarks.LayoutHandler - "SPECIAL" does not exist in ArtDefine_LandmarkTypes
[1397979.078] Invalid Reference on ArtDefine_Landmarks.LayoutHandler - "SPECIAL" does not exist in ArtDefine_LandmarkTypes
[1397979.078] Invalid Reference on ArtDefine_Landmarks.LayoutHandler - "SPECIAL" does not exist in ArtDefine_LandmarkTypes
[1397979.078] Invalid Reference on ArtDefine_Landmarks.LayoutHandler - "SPECIAL" does not exist in ArtDefine_LandmarkTypes
[1397979.078] Invalid Reference on ArtDefine_Landmarks.LayoutHandler - "SPECIAL" does not exist in ArtDefine_LandmarkTypes
[1397979.078] Invalid Reference on ArtDefine_Landmarks.LayoutHandler - "SPECIAL" does not exist in ArtDefine_LandmarkTypes
[1397982.453] Invalid Reference on Improvement_ResourceTypes.ResourceType - "RESOURCE_JFD_FEATHERS" does not exist in Resources
[1397983.296] Invalid Reference on Units.Help - "TXT_KEY_UNIT_CHOOSEGP" does not exist in Language_en_US
[1397983.406] Invalid Reference on Units.Strategy - "TXT_KEY_UNIT_CHOOSEGP" does not exist in Language_en_US
[1397983.500] Invalid Reference on Units.Civilopedia - "TXT_KEY_UNIT_CHOOSEGP" does not exist in Language_en_US
[1397983.593] Invalid Reference on Units.Description - "TXT_KEY_UNIT_CHOOSEGP" does not exist in Language_en_US
[1397985.500] Failure to check references for foreign key Resource_YagemRegionPosition(Type).
[1397985.500] no such table: Region
[1397985.500] Failed Validation.
[1397987.671]
-- SQLite Memory Statistics --
Memory Usage:
[Cur] [Max]
Malloc: 12777128 78105968
PageCache: 9 219
LookAside: 0 0
Scratch: 0 1

Static Buffer Overflows:
[TooLarge] [NoSpace]
PageCache: 11856432 65215080
Scratch: 0 0

Largest Allocations:
Malloc: 262144
PageCache: 1172
Scratch: 6664

Prepared Statements:
Current: 14
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Hmm, nothing in there stands out - disable the CBP, but keep the rest of the mods enabled. If it moves to Trapping, then it's just CBP compatiability; else, it's a conflict.

Zares · Jan 10, 2016

Should I disable only CBP or CP, CSD, etc. too?

Chrisy15 · Jan 10, 2016

Zares said:
Should I disable only CBP or CP, CSD, etc. too?

You need the CP, but I'd start by just disabling the CBP. After, if there are more issues, then we can try disabling more.

JFD · Jan 10, 2016

The Scout is not moved to Trapping with the CBP, because this feature, a small one, would change CBP's balance in a way that I cannot account for, as I don't use it.

Chrisy15 · Jan 10, 2016

... or we could just wait for JFD to wake up

Kesler · Jan 10, 2016

In response to strategic tips, you're looking at the wrong guy :3 Typically I'll stick with one warrior and explore until I reach a certain radius or barbs might reach my capital. In the meantime, I'll build a worker. In terms of techs to research, I'm torn between getting the granary and scout. Typically I'll go for the scout because my thirst for exploration is unquenchable, but that may not be the most strategic thing to do.

Chrisy15 · Jan 10, 2016

Kesler said:
In response to strategic tips, you're looking at the wrong guy :3 Typically I'll stick with one warrior and explore until I reach a certain radius or barbs might reach my capital. In the meantime, I'll build a worker. In terms of techs to research, I'm torn between getting the granary and scout. Typically I'll go for the scout because my thirst for exploration is unquenchable, but that may not be the most strategic thing to do.

My vanilla strat is Scout --> Scout/Monument (depending on either Tradition or Liberty) --> Shrine. However, without the nice, cheap Scout at the start, I can never decide what to go for. Therefore, I go Warrior and use him as a surrogate scout. In the end, I then don't get trapping for a while because I'm too busy on Settlers/Workers.

Anyone else got strats to share?

AxGrinder · Jan 10, 2016

JFD said:
The Scout is not moved to Trapping with the CBP, because this feature, a small one, would change CBP's balance in a way that I cannot account for, as I don't use it.

So, this makes Tribes incompatible for CBP since the Recon Scout cannot be generated, corrected? Feel like I'm in that situation right now. Turned on Tribes, but I have no way to integrated them.

JFD · Jan 10, 2016

Nope. That's because Tribes isn't finished.

Ragamuffin · Jan 10, 2016

Did you ever plan on adding back the buffs to luxuries?

JFD · Jan 10, 2016

Not sure what you mean.

Charos · Jan 11, 2016

Guillelmus said:
Like some people who complained about it in the More Luxuries thread, "when I have YnAEMP v23 enabled and both More Luxuries and Exploration Continued Expanded enabled (08/12 update, in my case) I get a blank screen and am unable to pick any civs". I deselected all other mods and the problem is indeed between these ones. The first image that a guy posted there describes exactly my problem: http://imgur.com/a/uGP7U

I also have this issue. I've reinstalled, cleared cache/moduserdata/logs, hit the reset button, tried selecting game pace/whatever before anything else... Nothing works. JFD, do you have any advice? It really sucks not being able to use this with YNAEMP and the full CBP suite.

Edit: Also, has anyone found how to make scouts gain more than 45xp from revealing tiles? I've reset the barbarian xp maximum and the scout xp max from the CP files, but no dice.

Ragamuffin · Jan 11, 2016

JFD said:
Not sure what you mean.

Before you had it so ever luxury had a marble-esque buff to them, but it was removed. Were there plans to bring that back?

TranquilSilence · Jan 11, 2016

Ragamuffin said:
Before you had it so ever luxury had a marble-esque buff to them, but it was removed. Were there plans to bring that back?

You speak of the fabled Trade component - I'm pretty sure that this has been dropped now that Prosperity is intended to be a part of Right to Rule.

Ragamuffin · Jan 11, 2016

TranquilSilence said:
You speak of the fabled Trade component - I'm pretty sure that this has been dropped now that Prosperity is intended to be a part of Right to Rule.

Ah. I was unaware it had to do with Trade. Thought it was just an "across the board" thing.

Zares · Jan 12, 2016

JFD, could you make AI not to heal in Jungle/Desert/Marsh somehow? I almost always see AIs' units trying to heal in wrong places.

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