Factions You'd Like to See

[awesome]

Dear Tecumseh, while I guess we won't see your faction in BE I can guarantee you that someone will mod this brilliant idea

Anarchist faction of desperated people... I would rather make it a bit less terroristic (not sure how do you understand terrorism here but I wouldn't like faction which bombs civilians ) but otherwise it is awesome. Oh, and the leader design is pure genius.

One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. The whole, "he's a no good terrorist who wants revenge for something done hundreds of years ago!" mentality would be held by his enemies, but his followers would disagree.

 

[TPangolin]

One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. The whole, "he's a no good terrorist who wants revenge for something done hundreds of years ago!" mentality would be held by his enemies, but his followers would disagree.

Take my love, take my land
Take me where I cannot stand
I don't care, I'm still free
You can't take the sky from me.

 

[shaglio]

Take my love, take my land
Take me where I cannot stand
I don't care, I'm still free
You can't take the sky from me.

Take me out to the black
Tell 'em I ain't comin' back
Burn the land and boil the sea
You can't take the sky from me.

Still got it stuck in your head I see?

 

[TPangolin]

Yeah, I feel like a Browncoat-esque mod will work wonders in a game like this. Also a Cerberus-style Scientific/Militaristic Terrorist/Humanity First civ would be awesome too.

 

[Alexander Boney]

The Second French Empire under Napoleon III
UA: Reconstruction of Paris: Build National Wonders, Gardens and Culture buildings with 10% more .
UU 1:Mitrailleuse: Replaces Gatling Gun. Starts with Range promotion.
UU 2:Zouave: Replaces Rifleman. Ignores terrain cost and starts with Cover I.

 

[TPangolin]

Err... Wrong thread buddy.

 

[JFD]

I would like to see the Holy See as a faction as a mod; I will be making the Holy See as a faction as a mod for this game

Also, New Zealand will be sending its own expedition; funded by the magical quest of imperialism that it embarked upon shortly after people forgot how to record history, but before they remembered; when it went berserk after learning that the TPP was going to be called Polystralia and carved an enclave out of NZ, Fiji, Niue, the Cook Islands and Madagascar.

 

[TPangolin]

I would like to see the Holy See as a faction as a mod; I will be making the Holy See as a faction as a mod for this game

Well that exists. The internet is a weird place.

 

[poom3619]

I want to have British faction with leader that's Elizabeth I-esque or Red queen in Alice in the Wonderland (movies)

I just love Red-White with an annoying leader

 

[Krajzen]

I don't remember who but some genius on these forums wrote next idea for a faction:

[don't remember the name]

The New Israel.

and I developed it


After the fall of Middle Eastern Israel during the third world war and the Great Mistake, people of Israel are once again in diaspora. Despite being one of the world's greatest scientists, thinkers, artists and businessmen, global (14 million) Jewish population once again has no home... But this time it seeks Promised Land beyond the skies.

New Israel Society

Leader - Asher Gurion , scientist. Specialized in cognitive studies and evolutionary psychology, chosen as the leader of New Israel Society space expedition to find a new home for Jews. Expert in the field of human mind and artificial intelligence.

Looks like this, this awesome man, Moshe Dajan.

Eyepath is required If not eyepath, some eye awesome gadget. If not this, some awesome scar or tattoo I'm not sure if his eventual military past would be politically incorrect

Advantages: Science, Culture, Diplomacy

Disadvantages: Growth, Production

 

[orikos]

I agree with altayrneto that we nee Israel in this game, but my idea is different.

The New Kingdom of Judah:

In 2250, Israel is smaller than today because after the end of the negotiation with Palestine in 2157, the Western Bank became the territory of Palestine (I'm not surprised that this negotiation cost a long time ). Israel also became smaller after the rising of the sea, that destroyed their coastal lines including Tel-Aviv and Haifa- two of the three largest cities, and killed millions. That left Israel with some areas- Hanegev, a large unsettled area of desert, the area of the capital Jerusalem and the north. It was a question of time when the terrorists will attack Israel and conquer it, or at least many parts of her. But after all that, Israel was one of the anvanced countries in the world, so they survived these diasters and the belief in God left them sane. The Knesset (the Israelite government) decided that the country needs to find a new land to settle with no risks of destruction and no antisemitism, but they also need to stay in Israel, the promised land, and not give her to non-Jews. So they started 'Project the Second Promised Land' and built a spaceship that will land on a new planet. The Jewish Agency published a message to the jewish people around the world:

'Dear Jewish People,
Our world is risk for us, and mostly for the people who lives in Israel. If some of you want to start new lives in a new land without this risks, we are happily announcing about 'Project The Second Promised Land'. This project will land you on a new planet. Your mission is just live there, settle, and build 'The New Kingdom of Judah'. The spaceship will be launched at Israel, near Jerusalem in this month. Please contact us if you want.'

After a month the space was launched with some tens of thousands, and the journey for new lives was started.

Leader: Moses Cohen the commander of the spaceship 'Merkava'. Maybe a name of an important leader like Rabin, zionist like Hertzel or important men in Judaism like Moses.
Language: Hebrew.
Religion: Judaism.
Recommended Affinity: Purity.
+ : Religion, Science, Exploration
- : Growth, Energy, Diplomacy
Tall or Wide: Tall.

Edit: Krajzen, you prefaced me

 

[JFD]

Well that exists. The internet is a weird place.

Excellent. That's the leader screen covered

 

[Alexander Boney]

Err... Wrong thread buddy.

And why is that, exactly?

 

[Krajzen]

In 2250, Israel is smaller than today because after the end of the negotiation with Palestine in 2157, the Western Bank became the territory of Palestine (I'm not surprised that this negotiation cost a long time ). Israel also became smaller after the rising of the sea, that destroyed their coastal lines including Tel-Aviv and Haifa- two of the three largest cities, and killed millions. That left Israel with some areas- Hanegev, a large unsettled area of desert, the area of the capital Jerusalem and the north.

Wait. Currently Israel has ~20 000km2. And you wanna destroy its 2/3 of urban area and few thousand km2 basically making from the the city state of Jerusalem. And you somehow end with nation state powerful enogh to compete in space colonization with such monstrous giants as Panasian Cooperative? My faction was at least global powerful organisation made from world elite

But after all that, Israel was one of the anvanced countries in the world, so they survived these diasters

Uhm... So we can as well qualify Qatar and Luxembourg as space superpowers

and the belief in God left them sane.

Actually modern Israel is pretty secular and atheistic

The best line:

The Knesset (the Israelite government) decided that the country needs to find a new land to settle with no risks of destruction and no antisemitism, but they also need to stay in Israel, the promised land, and not give her to non-Jews.

If you wanna to make your ideas possible to put in game, remember to never risk offending people or touching problematic subjects


'The American government decided to Manifest Destiny once again by sending colonists to space. But they also need to stay in America and not give this country to blacks' I mean I generally don't like political correcttness but come on

So they started 'Project the Second Promised Land' and built a spaceship that will land on a new planet. The Jewish Agency published a message to the jewish people around the world:

'Dear Jewish People,

Our world is risk for us, and mostly for the people who lives in Israel.

And especially those whose neighbours are Palestinians.

If some of you want to start new lives in a new land without this risks, we are happily announcing about 'Project The Second Promised Land'. This project will land you on a new planet. Your mission is just live there, settle, and build 'The New Kingdom of Judah'. The spaceship will be launched at Israel, near Jerusalem in this month. Please contact us if you want.'
After a month the space was launched with some tens of thousands, and the journey for new lives was started.

Not going to be rude or something but this is the most naive vision of space colonization I could ever imagine

Hey guys next week our awesome starship flies to the far galaxy on the great colonization which will decide about the future of mankind, wanna hang out? Here is my telephone number. And remember, only Jews are allowed

Moses Cohen
Maybe a name of an important leader like Rabin, zionist like Hertzel or important men in Judaism like Moses.

Sure, let's remain simple:

Arabian leader - Muhammad Ahmed
Jewish leader - Moses Abraham
Indian leader - Mahatma Budda
Asian leader - Mao Tzu, kung fu and hive mind
Russian leader - Comrade Vladimir Ivanov
German leader - Hans Bormann
American leader - James Smith, white supremacist
Scandinavian leader - Olaf Bjoergen, skier
African leader - Martin Luther Mandela

By the way, zionists are Jewish nationalists. Many people... don't like them and for them Zionist 'New Promised Land' Leader in space would be basically Afrikaan Nationalist 'Apartheid' Leader in space. Personally I don't have anything against zionists but remember, these are very sensitive subjects

(by the way I have probably realized why Israel was never in Civ game... so many potential problems with political correctness. Although personally I would still put Israel and Tibet in game, they are such interesting factions )

Language: Hebrew.
Religion: Judaism.
Recommended Affinity: Purity.

Ethnicity: Jewish
Trait: No Palestinians Allowed
Recommended Affinity: Ethnic Purity

Seriously, I am amazed that you managed to make it sound so offensive

And now, important facts. I don't like political correctness. I like Jews. Current situation in Palestine is problematic but personally I wouldn't have great problems with nationalist Israel faction in the game. I also don't condemn you as I guess you don't realise how this sounds The problem is, if a guy like me - who is basically never offended - sees so much potential problems with this faction, this means that if someone released it the grand flamewar would begin

 

[GeoModder]

Actually modern Israel is pretty secular and atheistic

The people in Israel in general perhaps. Those living in the Jerusalem area quite a bit less so.
Been in the country a few times, most memorable quote I ever heard of an Isreali?
"All the Jews living in Jerusalem want or need something from God."

'nuf said?

 

[TPangolin]

And why is that, exactly?

This is the Beyond Earth Forum section, if you are looking to suggest a civilization for Civ V, post here: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=433030

 

[orikos]

Wait. Currently Israel has ~20 000km2. And you wanna destroy its 2/3 of urban area and few thousand km2 basically making from the the city state of Jerusalem. And you somehow end with nation state powerful enogh to compete in space colonization with such monstrous giants as Panasian Cooperative? My faction was at least global powerful organisation made from world elite I don't know what you know, but I know that all the time the Jews didn't have a country they were seperated from each other- a community in Spain, another in Germany, another in Yemen and in other countries. Until Israel became independent the Jews didn't have a global contact- that it means that the commuinty in Yemen didn't communicated with the another community in Spain.
In my opinion, if the Jews will be seperated again, they won't be united or almost not united. And who said that the governments in this country will allow them to build a spaceship to another planet and to live there?



Uhm... So we can as well qualify Qatar and Luxembourg as space superpowers I don't think that every country who passed a diaster is superpower. What I meant that they were advanced scientifically and the country was still alive after the diasters.



Actually modern Israel is pretty secular and atheistic Youre wrong. 80% of the Israelites believe in God.

The best line:



If you wanna to make your ideas possible to put in game, remember to never risk offending people or touching problematic subjects


'The American government decided to Manifest Destiny once again by sending colonists to space. But they also need to stay in America and not give this country to blacks' I mean I generally don't like political correcttness but come on In this case you're right.






And especially those whose neighbours are Palestinians.



Not going to be rude or something but this is the most naive vision of space colonization I could ever imagine

Hey guys next week our awesome starship flies to the far galaxy on the great colonization which will decide about the future of mankind, wanna hang out? Here is my telephone number. And remember, only Jews are allowed Maybe what I wrote is funny or stupid for you, but there are a few things that will unite the Jews around the world or every another community that seperated around the world to build a spaceship and settle a new world. And maybe it sounds naive that there are no risks in the new planet but I meant that the risks in this planet are not the risks in the new planet.



Sure, let's remain simple:

Arabian leader - Muhammad Ahmed
Jewish leader - Moses Abraham
Indian leader - Mahatma Budda
Asian leader - Mao Tzu, kung fu and hive mind
Russian leader - Comrade Vladimir Ivanov
German leader - Hans Bormann
American leader - James Smith, white supremacist
Scandinavian leader - Olaf Bjoergen, skier
African leader - Martin Luther Mandela

By the way, zionists are Jewish nationalists. Many people... don't like them and for them Zionist 'New Promised Land' Leader in space would be basically Afrikaan Nationalist 'Apartheid' Leader in space. Personally I don't have anything against zionists but remember, these are very sensitive subjects I didn't understand that you wrote, so I just clarify myself about the name:
I wanted to do something like Daoming Sochua. One of them is chinese name and the another korean. Because this faction is just Israel I had some options-
A common name (like Cohen), a name of a famous zionist (like Hertzel), a name of a famous or important politician/prime minister/president (like Rabin) or a name of a famous Jewish prophet or character (like Moses). If you didn't notice, you choose the name in this method: Asher- common name (slightly old but never mind) and Gurion- after David Ben Gurion, the first prime minister of Israel.


(by the way I have probably realized why Israel was never in Civ game... so many potential problems with political correctness. Although personally I would still put Israel and Tibet in game, they are such interesting factions )



Ethnicity: Jewish
Trait: No Palestinians Allowed
Recommended Affinity: Ethnic Purity

Seriously, I am amazed that you managed to make it sound so offensive Maybe it's sound very Jewish, but maybe you didn't read that Palestine is independent country so there are no Palestines in Israel. The non-Jewish people in Israel are Druze, Bedouin and Circassian. All of them are minorities, a few percent of the population.

And now, important facts. I don't like political correctness. I like Jews. Current situation in Palestine is problematic but personally I wouldn't have great problems with nationalist Israel faction in the game. I also don't condemn you as I guess you don't realise how this sounds The problem is, if a guy like me - who is basically never offended - sees so much potential problems with this faction, this means that if someone released it the grand flamewar would begin

Answers are underlined.
Now, do you understant what I wrote?

 

[Krajzen]

Yes. I am satisfied that you admitted that the line 'they also need to stay in Israel, the promised land, and not give her to non-Jews' is controversial

 

[awesome]

Let me explain why he said that one thing was naive:
This is an important mission. Everybody who's being sent on it was hand picked because of their specific skill or status. While I'm sure that there has been some kind of study done on the new planet, just like we do today and there will probably be space tourism, the mission isn't to "just live there." Each faction might have a different goal, which might even differ each game, based on who you decide to let on your ship, but none of the options will be "guy with a cell phone who saw a toll free number on a billboard."

 

[Migoooy]

Thanks for all the love, guys. And nice ideas from iRule and altayrneto.

Some ideas for Crow's dialogue in the diplomacy screen:


First contact: *bowing and scraping sarcastically* "Welcome, welcome! To where? To Heaven, of course! I suppose you must be some poor lost soul. And me? Well, I suppose I must be God! How else could I be this smart?"

Declaring war: *shrugs* "Hey, somebody has to kill you. I promise to make it quick, painful, and very funny. Maybe I'll hang you upside down on your own flagpole. That'll show ya."

At-war greeting: *grinning fakely* "Oh look, it's the enemy. Hi enemy! Can I get you something? Coffee? Tea? Rocket in the face?"

Declining a cease-fire: *laughs hysterically*

Accepting a cease-fire: "It was getting kinda boring. I'll just tell my soldiers to quit killing your people. *looks into the distance* Hey, you! Soldiers! Quit it! *looks back at you* Anything else?"

When he's defeated: *chuckles thoughtfully* "Funny, isn't it, how a bunch of high-school dropouts and naked savages can make so much trouble for you important, world-shaking types. Go ahead, kill me right now; I've made my point."

I'm getting a very strong Che Guevarra theme from this.