Ah, well I almost went for oracle but I think Maria got it pretty early. Will maybe try again next go. NC was at T83 Edu a little late at t115 and I was kind of late getting RS Yeah, it's way too small. Really not sure why. I'm sure I worked all specialist slots in each city, but will double check later. I probably did waste some beakers, particularly when Theodora DoW on me, I bulbed some techs at the bottom of the tree to get some advanced military, but never less than 3 turns to go to research. *EDIT OK I checked slots, and i didn't work factory and stock exchange in Warsaw and some others in the other cities (guess because I wanted to keep the growth up). Should I always be working all slots? Not sure on this one, quite some time before I won. Guessing around T220. Thanks for the help.