Favorite Unrestricted Leader Combo

[MrFrodo]

Clearly Boudicca of the Romans has to win out....I won so bad with this it wasnt even really fun.

But she would not approve of this combo...

 

[RockTheCazbah87]

She'd probably kill herself.

 

[mightygodking]

I'm a builder, and let me tell you, Willem or Elizabeth of the Ethopians are both absolutely redonkulous. In normal play, Zara Yaqob manages to be a cultural-victory force despite not having Philosophical, Spiritual OR Financial, and it's all because of Steles - give Steles to a serious builder and, well. Very, very fast cultural victories.

 

[Lord_Zath]

question: when you play with unrestricted leaders, doesn't that mean your opponents are also unrestricted combos? so couldn't you have combos that you are playing against that would be powerful and make it more challenging? I haven't tried this mode yet. I was considering a succession game with this feature.

This is correct and makes for some interesting gameplay. I do like it, but I have had instances where I thought I was declaring war on Mehmed II to realize I actually declared war on Napoleon (Napoleon of Ottomans - color is civ based, not leader based)

 

[phungus420]

Boudica of the Romans being probably the most overpowered combo is truly one of the best ironies I can think of. I don't think She'd aprove, but I like it.

 

[Lurking Liu]

She'd probably kill herself.

She'd smother herself in her own boobs.



But, yeah, the AI gets to do random stuff, too. Unrestricted Leaders, Random AI Personalities makes for a lot of fun. You can't predict anything. If you're playing a combo that is legitimately non-broken (ie: Wang Kon of Holy Roman Empire because you want to play as Switzerland and there isn't a setting to do that for real) then I kind of recommend setting up your opponents in advance as "regular" civs. You have to remember to set up the leader and their civ in advance, so it takes a few minutes and you want to ensure an even distribution of war/peace-mongers for a balanced game, but it makes for some fun.

 

[RockTheCazbah87]

But, yeah, the AI gets to do random stuff, too. Unrestricted Leaders, Random AI Personalities makes for a lot of fun. You can't predict anything.

"Welcome. I am Gandhi of the Aztecs. I hate you!"

 

[mboettcher]

Clearly Boudicca of the Romans has to win out....I won so bad with this it wasnt even really fun.

Yeah obviously a powerful combo. Played a few games already and Im definately an early invader/warmonger. Favorite combo on emperor or above is cyrus (imp/char) and romans. Obviously charismatic is underrated. very powerful early game with happiness and stone henge. Can keep a war going a while. PLus its harder to get Great generals in bts. Great generals are worth like 5 great people when u got charismatic trait. U play epic game with romans, get that build 12 swordsman quest and promote them all to combat I/cityraider I and got to war continuously and u will have 6 great generals by the time u reach the renaissance (put them all as warlords). Cant be beat.

 

[Kiershar]

Im surprised no one mentionned Shaka of the Native americans... its almost like cheating

Start on a plain hill, exploit nearest 2 or 3 shield tile and produce a worker to make a mine and exploit it. Research to bronzeworking, when worker come out then have worker chop forest. Spam dog warriors all over and squat on all military ressources...

 

[Lurking Liu]

"Welcome. I am Gandhi of the Aztecs. I hate you!"

You laugh, but you've never been backstabbed on Pleased by Mongol Gandhi =(

Yeah, it just goes to show that you can't take anything for granted in Unrestricted/Random games. Mongol Ghandi had Catherine's personality. I figured I was safe. Oops.

 

[vb1]

Cyrus of the Byzantines. Once you upgrade your highly promoted (from Chm and lots of great generals) horse archers to Cataphracts, youre unstoppable. (cataphracts with 50% strength have over 90% chance to beat a fortified longbowman in a 50% cultural defense city). When the game was over i had a level 25 Gunship with all possible promotions

 

[hoopsnerd]

Funny thing, Huanya Capac. He's awesome, the Inca just suck... (Unless you do Quecha rush, which is a whole different story, but I don't like that very much...) So Huanya's a dream for Unrestricted Leaders.

Unfortunately, the computer comes up with silly combinations...

Inca suck? The UB rocks my socks off too, and even if you don't Quecha rush they can let you play peacefully building pyramids or whatnot by holding off barbs until barbs have axes, and on a crowded map that wont happen. The UB is great if you don't get a relgion/stonehenge early. I usually try to whip a granery early in every city to allow me to whip more, so the UB basicly gives the Inca the benefits of being Creative too. The other wonderful benefit of the Quecha is that it starts with Combat 1, so you can build a bunch of them super cheap and upgrade them to macemen later with the same free promotion an aggressive leader would get. Free promotions are sweet cause it's only 2 XP to the 2nd one, and 5 to the 3rd, but you know that already...

Personally I think Inca is so good it's unbalanced, factoring in the ability to Quecha rush of course. The only way I've ever won on Diety is starting with 2 capitals thanks to Quecha rush...

 

[hoopsnerd]

Im surprised no one mentionned Shaka of the Native americans... its almost like cheating

Start on a plain hill, exploit nearest 2 or 3 shield tile and produce a worker to make a mine and exploit it. Research to bronzeworking, when worker come out then have worker chop forest. Spam dog warriors all over and squat on all military ressources...

ever seen a dog warrior fight a chariot?

 

[Kiershar]

ever seen a dog warrior fight a chariot?

Still have good odds if your on the offense. Chariots only get the bonus when attacking.

 

[Elros]

Playing unrestricted leaders, random personalities with everything that can possibly be randomised randomised certainly makes for a challenging game

 

[RockTheCazbah87]

This seems like a nifty little set-up for future games. I'll keep it in mind!

 

[TheLastOne36]

Joao of Ethiopia with stonehenge.

Also i find Boudica of the Greeks better then of the romans for multiplayer as you don't need iron and youi get to pump out those phalanxes faster and earilier.

 

[Quildavyr]

Holy Roman Mehmed...
You pay no maintenance

 

[RockTheCazbah87]

Also i find Boudica of the Greeks better then of the romans for multiplayer as you don't need iron and youi get to pump out those phalanxes faster and earilier.

If she were Boudica of the Mayans, she wouldnt need copper or iron at all.

 

[TheLastOne36]

but are holkans as strong as preats or phalanx? or as destructive?