Ok everyone, repeat after me
Nice way of starting a thread which is supposed to praise democracy. "Repeat after me, don't you
dare think for yourself."
"We are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the
economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to
wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all determined to destroy this
system under all conditions."
It ain't Uncle Joe who said that...
So you believe in what he said?
First of all, Hitler was right-winged. Yes, he was. His party, the NSDAP (Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei, engl. National socialist german worker's party) was right-winged. It was nationalist. It was considered by the people of the time to be right-winged. It was considered by themselves to be right-winged.
It was just as right-winged as the modern-day right-winged german parties, the NPD, the DVU and the Republikaner.
Yes, it was.
Now,
two things in the party's name should strike you. Not
only the "socialist", but also the "worker's". Next time, check your knowledge
before you begin trolling.
The NSDAP was not socialist. It was national socialist. In German, it is called "Nationalsozialistisch",
not "National-sozialistisch", "Nationale sozialistische Partei" or anything else. There is a striking difference. It's one word, not two. If they were nationals and socialists, they'd have called themselves "Nationale Sozialistische... Partei". It's the same with today's NPD= Nationaldemokratische Partei Deutschland. Translated, that's National Democratic... but this party isn't democratic. Before you begin trolling again, I'd suggest you'd learn some German.
Now, where's the difference between national socialism and socialism? Here it is:
Yes, there are some basic resemblances between national socialism and socialism/communism. I admit that, even though I'm a leftist. One principle would be, that the people should be treated equally and socially.
BUT
This counts
only for the German people. Socialism/Communism is meant for the entire world, the principle that
all are equal, not
all Germans are equal. This is a very important difference.
Hitler and his party was racist. The Communists obviously aren't. Persecution in so-called communist states were not against ethnic groups. They were against political and religious groups.
Wait... religious? Didn't the Germans also persecute Jews?
Yes, they did. But they didn't regard the Jews as a religious, but as an ethnic group.
One of the ways the NSDAP came to power was by promising to give labour to everyone. Piece of cake. There were 6 million unemployed in Germany in 1932. Preparing a war would need at least that much.
The socialists are also fighting against unemployment, but they're not preparing a war.
Now... yes, Hitler allied with Stalin. But Stalin wasn't a clean communist.
No he wasn't, no he wasn't, no he wasn't, no he wasn't.
The greatest mistake of so-called communist states, and I say that as a leftist, is the fact that they are taking the words of Marx and Lenin literally, and they're trying to make politics with them.
You can't.
It's a philosophy. It is the idea of equality of all men, of being treated as equal and treating equal.
Neither the USSR, nor the People's Republic Of China, nor the Democratic Republic of Korea, nor the People's Republic of Poland, nor the People's Republic of Hungary etc etc etc have done this or are doing this.
They aren't.
They are trying to stay in power, that's all. During their revolution, things sounded good to the people. Because they claimed to be Communists. They weren't. They were something, but they weren't Communists. A true Communist will know that violence is wrong, that trying to give Communism through war is contradictory.
Salvador Allende was more of a Communist/Socialist than Lenin and Mao together.
And Stalin... he was a military dictator.
Mind you, Communism is a very democratic system. It defends liberty and equality. It wants freedom of speech and the well-being of people. It wants peace.
Hitler wanted nothing of that.
Just because the Americans are radically paranoid against Communism doesn't mean that everything they regard as bad is communistic.
And most of all, it doesn't mean that Communism is bad.
Next time you start trolling, think for yourself once. Please.
Oh, and by the way: Had Hitler had it his way, he would have been allied to Great Britain and at war against the Soviet Union.
Funny there should just be a thread devoted to faulty logic in the OT Forum.
