For the record - Obama and Taxing

The real risk is to hold onto a specific moral ideal - not because having moral ideals is wrong, but just that sometimes they cannot be (reasonably) held onto (philosophically). It may broadly make sense and be a perfectly fine rule-of-thumb, but eventually it becomes a square peg in a round hole.

Taxes can be theft, but until someone's lifestyle is perfectly free of negative externalities and is perfectly free of inherited blood-wealth, one's wealth is never truly completely theirs - there are legitimate moral claims upon it that will never erode. This means that there are actually types of taxes that are not theft. Cutlass is correct, it doesn't matter if the spending by government is 2% or 50%, it entirely matters what is being spent upon.

After that, it's all just haggling; the haggling is fine and even necessary, but it doesn't come from a position that can be argued as a moral absolute. I absolutely believe in objective morality, but "taxes are theft" isn't one of them.


This is, simply, spot on correct. I hope the others readers of this thread take care to think about this in toto.




That is because there has been many $billions spent over many decades of time to convince people of the argument. It is the nation's biggest advertising campaign. And the Big Lie works, as has been demonstrated in this thread.

The Big Lie is insidious, not because it's factually in error, but because it works!

If someone is unfamiliar with it, simply search will for it. I won't link here, as I'm using my phone to post.
 
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