Foreign Affairs

[donsig]

I think it's quite natural for us to rule India.

Why spend time, shields, gold and our precious citizens to create workers when we can snag two this easily? We're better off fghting the Indians now than later. Let's strike our first empire building blow and see if Ghandi will turn the other cheek.

 

[ravensfire]

Let's strike our first empire building blow and see if Ghandi will turn the other cheek.

And if he won't ..... we'll turn it for him!

I like the boldness of this plan. It cripples our nearest competitor, and will focus some of his attention away from building.

-- Ravensfire

 

[Black_Hole]

go for india!!! It involves some risk, we havent really heard of the word "risk" in previous demogames...

 

[Provolution]

Ohh, I would be extremely careful here. They got 5 warriors starting out and there are several statistical risks here. Please save old Provo for a cruel war we are not prepared for.

 

[mad-bax]

If the next play session is Thursday then we should have a poll today surely? I would advocate a list of the pro's and cons being made for the polling thread. It would make interesting reading.

 

[Bianezzi]

Time for a poll indeed.

 

[ravensfire]

If the next play session is Thursday then we should have a poll today surely? I would advocate a list of the pro's and cons being made for the polling thread. It would make interesting reading.

Game session was moved back to Sunday, 9:00 MST ...

-- James

 

[Provolution]

Foreign policy seems more complex now, good we did not declare war.
I would say we should box in the Netherlands from the East Coast, build a defensible border to China. and a well defined fortified cultural border to India. We should stay out of wars until we got a clear military advantage on quality of troops and resources.

 

[TimBentley]

The discovery of two additional civs does increase the complexity. China's lack of knowledge with the Netherlands and India should help, although they know somebody else (hopefully our curragh will meet them soon). Are there any comments on relations with our new friends (not the current possible trades)?

 

[mad-bax]

The Netherlands capital has a 3 wheat floodplain location. They will spread like the plague. Looks like a good location for a future capital city to me.

Oh and Kill them, kill them all!

 

[blackheart]

The Netherlands capital has a 3 wheat floodplain location. They will spread like the plague. Looks like a good location for a future capital city to me.

Oh and Kill them, kill them all!

More slave workers for us

 

[Bianezzi]

Oh boy...


Well at least the Netherlands don't seem as dangerous as the closer Indians.

 

[YNCS]

Since the Dutch are agricultural, they grow more food, which means they can build more settlers, which means they can expand faster than the Indians or us.

 

[TimBentley]

It has been suggested to begin consideration of potential threats or allies. India is our closest neighbor. They seem to have hills and grassland, which is good but not great. We need to be mindful of their possible expansion towards us. They also seem like a good target for a potential first war, probably once the expansion phase has concluded.

The Netherlands are also close. The lands around their capital are not clear, but they got out a settler faster than India. Rotterdam has too much food. With their good lands and their agricultural trait, it is likely they will grow quickly and become a threat. Perhaps India and the Netherlands could be pitted against each other? They also have a connected spice and an unconnected spice, so there's a potential luxury deal there.

China is a distance away. They have a floodplain wheat and some grassland, so it looks like Beijing can grow quickly. Without more knowledge it is difficult to determine their potential strength.

Little is known about Persia, but they are farther away. They could be pitted against China at some point.

 

[Provolution]

We need to let India and Netherlands settle against each other, not settle between, we should make a defensible border using rough terrain as an external border, and climb the coast, blocking netherlands inside, only taking the better and easily defended inland sites.

 

[Bertie]

It looks like we’re aiming for a cultural victory. That means we’re going to needs lots of culture-generating infrastructure, which means we’ll need lots of cities, which means we’ll need lots of territory. We’re going to have to go to war with both India and the Netherlands. We may also want to move our capital to a better location. The Dutch appear to have the better territory from what we currently can see, so I’d make them the first target. Enlisting India’s aid against them would be an excellent idea.

We’re going to want trading partners throughout the game but we don’t want any of our partners to get too powerful. We probably will have to go to war with some of our newfound friends, but I’d prefer to get them fighting each other. I agree with TimBentley that we should thinking about pitting Persia against China.

 

[TimBentley]

Portugal, Byzantines, and Japan have been met. They are all far away. Portugal appears not to be dangerous, since they are backwards (their expansionist trait seems not to have helped them). Japan also seems not to be dangerous, as they only have one city at this time. Without more information, it is difficult to strategically consider them.