ruff_hi
Live 4ever! Or die trying
gotm 8 is my candidate for the biggest smoke job ever ... read about it at my web site (game reports).pindicator said:did you have problems playing GotM 8 or something ruff?
Fox-04 -- The Prime Directive
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Sam_Yeager
Another Original Geezer
OK, I've 'got it' but I need some thoughts on where we go from here.
We're currently on '100 turns left'. We are running 30% luxury and we still have some planets unhappy. My quick count of the Space option shows that we would need 98 turns at 100% research to get all the techs never mind about building the required parts.
We could build the UN reasonably soon but we would be against the dominion and far more civs seem to either like them or else dislike them less than the UFP. 
The dominion is fairly well advanced on Space techs so I think going for time is probably not feasible.
Which leaves Culture or Domination. As Culture's a non starter that leaves Domination which is... challenging.
We need to reduce to one front. As the cardassians won't even talk that means the Klingons. The only question is when i.e. take Novogorod and take a breather or go for peace now?
Thoughts and suggestions welcome.
EDIT: Brain's working slow tonight. It just occurred to me that Ruff's prologue may be a not too subtle hint of how the game will go. Perhaps I'm too gloomy..... I'll wait for comments on the way ahead so I won't be playing before tomorrow.
We're currently on '100 turns left'. We are running 30% luxury and we still have some planets unhappy. My quick count of the Space option shows that we would need 98 turns at 100% research to get all the techs never mind about building the required parts.
We could build the UN reasonably soon but we would be against the dominion and far more civs seem to either like them or else dislike them less than the UFP. The dominion is fairly well advanced on Space techs so I think going for time is probably not feasible. Which leaves Culture or Domination. As Culture's a non starter that leaves Domination which is... challenging.
We need to reduce to one front. As the cardassians won't even talk that means the Klingons. The only question is when i.e. take Novogorod and take a breather or go for peace now?Thoughts and suggestions welcome.
EDIT: Brain's working slow tonight. It just occurred to me that Ruff's prologue may be a not too subtle hint of how the game will go.
Perhaps I'm too gloomy..... I'll wait for comments on the way ahead so I won't be playing before tomorrow.
ruff_hi
Live 4ever! Or die trying
There is no way that we can be eliminated so don't worry about my "you have been defeated" stuff.
I vote for taking the current two cities of peters near moscow (and maybe the one with the ex-barb pyramid city) then sign peace deal. He did actually offer peace during my turn set and was going to throw in a city too!
I vote for taking the current two cities of peters near moscow (and maybe the one with the ex-barb pyramid city) then sign peace deal. He did actually offer peace during my turn set and was going to throw in a city too!
Sam_Yeager
Another Original Geezer
ruff_hi said:
It was more the 'xxxx has won a ????? victory' message I was thinking of.
namliaM
Deity
If you mean SGOTM 2 and Work... maybe a little free time inbetween... Yes.... Captured by the Romulans....GreyFox said:
I would suggest not taking that city... Usually cities gifted by the AI are worthless peaces of **** not worth the replicator rations...
GreyFox
Make it so ...
Feel free to grab the game when you are free ....namliaM said:
For those true trekkie, you would undoubtedly notice the basis why I placed a "Risa? Captured by Romulans?" besides our chief engineer namliaM's name, as you would obviously recall, in a particular episode, Geordi was heading towards Risa for a convention when he was captured by the Romulans en-route. They then implanted some receiver into his visor to control his mind ...
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GreyFox
Make it so ...
I agree with taking out the cities near mosow and get peace ... I think we can let the southmost city remains Klingons for now.
The cardasians need to be kicked in their ass for attacking our ally Monty ... there goes our plans of diplomatic I think, unless we can grow to 62%world galatic population 
That leaves only domination, and so domination it is.
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The cardasians need to be kicked in their ass for attacking our ally Monty ... there goes our plans of diplomatic I think, unless we can grow to 62%
That leaves only domination, and so domination it is.
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Sam_Yeager
Another Original Geezer
Acting Captain's Log
Stardate 2653.7
Lieutenant Worf commanding. I contact the Vulcans and agree to trade technologies
I make a start on clearing our space of Cardassian vessels by destroying a Galor class ship. Regrettably we also lose one of our Akira class vessels in the process. A further encounter with one of the Galor vessels is more expensive resulting in the loss of a Nebula class ship and an Akira class vessel as well as severe damage to another Akira vessel.
The Ferengi request our assistance against the Romulans.
Although tempted I decline their request.
The campaign against Novogorod is successful with minimal casualties. The latest census shows that the UFP population is expanding well.
A sub space message from the Dominion is intecepted indicating they are attempting to build a vessel capable of travelling between galaxies.
The Romulans approach us with an absurd offer which is promptly rejected.
Despite considerable cultural pressure from DS9, Bryansk is still holding out. I decide that this planet has been a thorn in our side for long enough and order it to be sacked.
Two further Galor ships are destroyed for the loss of an Akira class ship. For the time being it looks as though our space is clear of Cardassian ships.
After a delay to repair the assault ships used against Novogorod we successfully take Yaroslavi.
So far the Klingon empire has made no attempts to sue for peace. However I feel that we are now in a position to suspend hostilities against the Klingons and take the war against the Cardassians more vigourously.
Epsilon has started work on a new facility which should help replenish our finances. We have completed research into the Radio technology. I have selected Rocketry as a suitable technology to research next. However I have suspended research due to lack of funds so we have not yet started work on it.
Further sub space messages from the Dominion have been intercepted showng that they are making progress on their trans-galactic ship. The Daystrom Institute assures me that the Dominion requires far more work before it will be ready. Intelligence reports indicate that the Dominion are also quite powerful.
Command Codes
Stardate 2653.7
Lieutenant Worf commanding. I contact the Vulcans and agree to trade technologies
I make a start on clearing our space of Cardassian vessels by destroying a Galor class ship. Regrettably we also lose one of our Akira class vessels in the process. A further encounter with one of the Galor vessels is more expensive resulting in the loss of a Nebula class ship and an Akira class vessel as well as severe damage to another Akira vessel.
The Ferengi request our assistance against the Romulans.
Although tempted I decline their request.
The campaign against Novogorod is successful with minimal casualties. The latest census shows that the UFP population is expanding well.
A sub space message from the Dominion is intecepted indicating they are attempting to build a vessel capable of travelling between galaxies.
The Romulans approach us with an absurd offer which is promptly rejected.
Despite considerable cultural pressure from DS9, Bryansk is still holding out. I decide that this planet has been a thorn in our side for long enough and order it to be sacked.
Two further Galor ships are destroyed for the loss of an Akira class ship. For the time being it looks as though our space is clear of Cardassian ships.
After a delay to repair the assault ships used against Novogorod we successfully take Yaroslavi.
So far the Klingon empire has made no attempts to sue for peace. However I feel that we are now in a position to suspend hostilities against the Klingons and take the war against the Cardassians more vigourously.
Epsilon has started work on a new facility which should help replenish our finances. We have completed research into the Radio technology. I have selected Rocketry as a suitable technology to research next. However I have suspended research due to lack of funds so we have not yet started work on it.
Further sub space messages from the Dominion have been intercepted showng that they are making progress on their trans-galactic ship. The Daystrom Institute assures me that the Dominion requires far more work before it will be ready. Intelligence reports indicate that the Dominion are also quite powerful.
Command Codes
Cosmichail
Dark Lord of The Sith
I am up from what I can tell but won't be able to do anything until tomorrow evening Eastern Daylight saving time.
GreyFox
Make it so ...
Great job, Sam! The Klingons swould now know better to backstab us again.
Now, I have looke dat the save. We are at 17% land. Domination is IMPOSSIBLE.
We are at 20% pop. Diplomatic is IMPOSSIBLE.
We are like 300 points behind Liz. Time Victory is POSSIBLE.
We are behind in Rocketry, Computer, Fission, Plastics. Space is POSSIBLE.
I think our best course is still to run for space, and hope to overtake Liz in score. For that I would suggest we make peace with everyone (don't take that crappy city Tver ... I suspect its that north-pole city NE of Moscow), pay that 50g to Cardassians, switch all non-essential cities to research or wealth, and make a run for it.
We would most likely not make it before 80 turns is up. I was hoping to settle for a score victory, and if we are very very lucky, perhaps we will beat the Dominion in intrgalatic spaceship.
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Now, I have looke dat the save. We are at 17% land. Domination is IMPOSSIBLE.
We are at 20% pop. Diplomatic is IMPOSSIBLE.
We are like 300 points behind Liz. Time Victory is POSSIBLE.
We are behind in Rocketry, Computer, Fission, Plastics. Space is POSSIBLE.
I think our best course is still to run for space, and hope to overtake Liz in score. For that I would suggest we make peace with everyone (don't take that crappy city Tver ... I suspect its that north-pole city NE of Moscow), pay that 50g to Cardassians, switch all non-essential cities to research or wealth, and make a run for it.
We would most likely not make it before 80 turns is up. I was hoping to settle for a score victory, and if we are very very lucky, perhaps we will beat the Dominion in intrgalatic spaceship.
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Rex Tyrannus
280lbs of gross stupidity
Lurker's assinine comment:
Build nothing but nukes from here on out. On the last turn, nuke every city in the game six times and win time by a landslide.
Cap'n Caveman said:
Build nothing but nukes from here on out. On the last turn, nuke every city in the game six times and win time by a landslide.
Cosmichail
Dark Lord of The Sith
I'm with Rex. So this is how it happens.
The Borg infiltrate Starfleet and turn all officers into drones. The Queen orders the drones to nuke the entire galaxy system. (only problem is that Dominion will probably get SDI and shelters). But I haven't used nukes much in Civ 4 mainly because they become useless so quick with the SDI being built by most opposing civs. But I do love the pretty mushroom cloud.
It seems we are out of options captain but I will do as you specify but if you have a change of heart I won't be starting until tomorrow sometime.
The Borg infiltrate Starfleet and turn all officers into drones. The Queen orders the drones to nuke the entire galaxy system. (only problem is that Dominion will probably get SDI and shelters). But I haven't used nukes much in Civ 4 mainly because they become useless so quick with the SDI being built by most opposing civs. But I do love the pretty mushroom cloud.
It seems we are out of options captain but I will do as you specify but if you have a change of heart I won't be starting until tomorrow sometime.
Cosmichail
Dark Lord of The Sith
Ok I don’t really have time to do the Star Trek thing so I just played my turn to keep things moving.
T1
Mecca starts a forge
Sabic starts a Bank
Revolt to Representation
Make peace with Cardassians/Klingons
T2
Monty/Alex complete SS casing
T3
DSN starts university
St. Peters starts forge
Novgorod starts Lighthouse
Monty finishes SS casing
T4
Mars starts coal plant
Yeka starts factory
Smolensk starts University
T5
Medina start JT got unhappy people
T6
Rocketry is founded start satellites
Outpost 32 starts forge
Yaroslav start theater
Liz completes thrusters
Earth starts Apollo
T7
zzzzzz
T8
Moscow starts library (queue two workboats for sea resources)
T9
Medina start factory
T10
Ursa Minor start observatory
Moscow starts university.
Deep space nine has a workboat queued as well for clams.
THe Save
This going to be tough to beat but if we are quick with space parts we might although the other AI's are already building parts. Apollo will be due in 14 turns. Libyan is set to research right now so might want to change that when we finish Apollo for SS casing. Our point spread with Liz is about 200 points even after a couple of cities came out of revolt. Moscow will grow quite a bit now with sea resources and deep space nine should work the clams once the workboat is done.
T1
Mecca starts a forge
Sabic starts a Bank
Revolt to Representation
Make peace with Cardassians/Klingons
T2
Monty/Alex complete SS casing
T3
DSN starts university
St. Peters starts forge
Novgorod starts Lighthouse
Monty finishes SS casing
T4
Mars starts coal plant
Yeka starts factory
Smolensk starts University
T5
Medina start JT got unhappy people
T6
Rocketry is founded start satellites
Outpost 32 starts forge
Yaroslav start theater
Liz completes thrusters
Earth starts Apollo
T7
zzzzzz
T8
Moscow starts library (queue two workboats for sea resources)
T9
Medina start factory
T10
Ursa Minor start observatory
Moscow starts university.
Deep space nine has a workboat queued as well for clams.
THe Save
This going to be tough to beat but if we are quick with space parts we might although the other AI's are already building parts. Apollo will be due in 14 turns. Libyan is set to research right now so might want to change that when we finish Apollo for SS casing. Our point spread with Liz is about 200 points even after a couple of cities came out of revolt. Moscow will grow quite a bit now with sea resources and deep space nine should work the clams once the workboat is done.
Sam_Yeager
Another Original Geezer
Perhaps it's worth building the Internet wonder to try and catch up on techs? It's probably worth while setting a lot of our planets to wealth so that we can research faster. I think it may well also be worth suspending research for a turn or two so that we can run at 100%.
omni_paul
Mr. Shambles
How on earth does Hoshi not rate a mention among you nerds?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v616/ftsvd/hoshi.jpg
Best. Star Trek. Chick. Ever.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v616/ftsvd/hoshi.jpg
Best. Star Trek. Chick. Ever.
GreyFox
Make it so ...
Hoshi? OMG. T'Pol beats her anyday .... maybe because I am asian, so I am used to far better asian beauty than Hoshi. I fact I think Kekko O'Brien looks better than Hoshi
Anyway, good to hear from you again, paul! Saw you at DM, but didn't really give you a proper greeting overthere.
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Anyway, good to hear from you again, paul! Saw you at DM, but didn't really give you a proper greeting overthere.
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GreyFox
Make it so ...
In the very rare event, I am requesting a skip. I try not to do that unles sI am overseas, but this week has really been bad. In the interest of keeping the Enterprise at warp, ruff, please take helm. I will return to the command chair as soon as I can. Really sorry about this.
ruff_hi
Live 4ever! Or die trying
ok - got it, will play and post tonight. I better read back and see what our objective is.
Cosmichail
Dark Lord of The Sith
Ruff we are trying for Space victory or time. Apollo is being built in Earth and due in 14 turns. Libyan is set to research but has good production for space parts when Apollo is done. Lizzy is miles ahead of us though and has already built thrusters. Some cities can grow like DSN and Moscow. We are like 200 points away from Lizzy in second place.
ruff_hi
Live 4ever! Or die trying
Well, concentrated on growing some cities. Swapped some workshops to farms in the small hammer cities. We might think of back filling some techs (they will help our score position too) but I don't actually see us catching Lizzie in score or keeping them from space ...
The GP Scientist is on his way to Libyan (best science city with no academy @ 86bpt) or he will give us 2100 beakers to computers. 86 beakers times 50% times 49 turns = 2100. Prob best to lightbulb computers so we can start on the labs 2 turns earlier.
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Spoiler log :
The GP Scientist is on his way to Libyan (best science city with no academy @ 86bpt) or he will give us 2100 beakers to computers. 86 beakers times 50% times 49 turns = 2100. Prob best to lightbulb computers so we can start on the labs 2 turns earlier.
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