Abaddon
Deity
Id take freedom.. i can sort my own security myself thank you!
Freedom Vs Security.
- Thread starter Genocidicbunny
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American
Chieftain
nonconformist said:
I would have to disagree. De-centralized government itself is a sprawling octopus, that advances assymmetrically with a growth pattern more like the internet. Central Government, by its very nature, collapses because it is small, geocentrically positioned. De-centralization is by far the best means to insure maximum government.
greekguy
Missed the Boat
I rather die with my freedom, then live in a police state.
josephstalin
Kremlin Highlander
Security first, freedom second. I voted 50-50.
Abaddon
Deity
Joseph Stalin said:
Yeah, but you would
Oruc
Reactionary
Security is more important to me
Irish Caesar
Yellow Jacket
nonconformist said:
Didn't say I was Republican, did I?
blackheart
unenlightened
The Yankee said:
That's the first quote from Bush that I have seen that has any significant historical value and doesn't sound like he stuttered it!
greekguy
Missed the Boat
storealex said:
no, i live in New Jersey, USA. i am Jewish, so that's why i've got the Israeli flag as my avatar.
Nate128
Bow to your king.
Whats the point in being safe when your life is miserable?
GrandAdmiral
Deity
If I wanted security first I would move to China.
I found it pretty ironic also, given the security mantra and the oldie-but-goodie "they hate us for our freedom."blackheart said:
I really don't think you can have one without the other, but people go a little too far with the whole freedom thing. I like being secure. The whole wire tappign thing doesn't bother me, because I have nothign to be afraid of the government finding out. I'm a good person, my freedoms haven't been infringed upon, and I feel more secure. But there has to be a balance. Always.
Mark Young
Formerly Sir Eric
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What would be better?
A CFC forum where you could post whatever you wanted and not having to worry about mods breathing down your neck, which resulted in a more hostile, less usefrienldy enviroment,
or
One that like the one that we have where we allow mods to keep the posters in check so that everyone can have their say in the safest possible enviroment?
A CFC forum where you could post whatever you wanted and not having to worry about mods breathing down your neck, which resulted in a more hostile, less usefrienldy enviroment,
or
One that like the one that we have where we allow mods to keep the posters in check so that everyone can have their say in the safest possible enviroment?
Genocidicbunny
Bug squasher
So is pretty much everyone for freedom? Cus by freedom i mean something like 70-30, freedom-security. Opposite for security.
Tank_Guy#3
Lion of Lehistan
A lot of good freedom is if you're a bloody pile of hamburger.
Kind of like what Hans Solo said, only on a different topic:
"What good's a reward if ya ain't around to use it?"
Kind of like what Hans Solo said, only on a different topic:
"What good's a reward if ya ain't around to use it?"
JohnRM
Don't make me destroy you
Freedom...
GrandAdmiral
Deity
sealboy6 said:
Its not a matter of whether or not you did something bad its a matter of whether or not your legitimate actions could be considered suspicious. Your library or web searching habits could mean your a possible terroritst or you just like to argue about terrorism over the internet. If the government gets ahold of this info they might use their dimwitted intellect to make false accusations. I'm sure the great American justice system will free you in the end but that doesn't mean that being falsely accused and then vindicated might not ruin your life.
