FS1-Assimilation! (Noble?)

[S.ilver]

I wouldn't recommend it. We need to spend at least a turnset or two rebuilding, and taking stock of our gains. Also, Asoka still is a bit more advanced that us.

I'm also counting on him founding some cities in the former culture spaces of Mali for us to flip.

 

[ndthsmdy]

I didn't mean taking him on right away--I was just wondering since we will still pretty much be stuck on our little peninsula after this war is over. The only difference is we will control all of it instead of half of it.

I like the idea of baiting him to build cities for us to flip though

 

[Liquidated]

Cor Another effing edit... pess is back, it ok for him to take his turn next? if not I'll delay my turnset for him to fit in ndy.


I'd dare say not feasible at all.

Finish off mansa at our leasure first. Then lets dig in what we got, repair the damage silver did and let hamburg heal (hahahahahahahaha).

There can be no butter without a bit of burnt toast.

I'm assuming by the time silver gets back up he'll be all set to tear it all down again at india's (and hamburg's) expense.

oh man I love nothing more than a torn down yard to rake up and replant.

I'm assuming mass catapults will resize the defenders in timbuk btw... they love large stacks.

ok can get away form EQ, time to load up the save to see how bad it is , your 10 turns alone won;t make much of a dent in it ndy so just concentrate on leveling timbuktu.

takes me a long time to post seeing as I have sig camps to charm burn.... silver beat me to it prolly.

Cheers!
-Liq

 

[ucel]

Precheck:
It looks good for now Timbuktu should fall rather sooner than later, it's going to become ultimate GP factory.
Switched Paper to Nationalism. People, look please on foreign advisor screen . Everyone has paper already!
Let's go!


1) 1550

Djenne productive: Library
Monty circumnavigated the globe.
Ouch, I've just noticed we need more cats by Timbuktu, so ordered to build some in the border cities.

2) 1555
M&M propose Peace for 170g. I said him bye.
Cologne: Library->Court

Our troops should be ready to take Timbuktu, so I ordered to attack.

1 Cat: withdrawn
2 Cat: died, but with 1.5 str it was a real suicide.
3 Mace: won, 4 left
4 Mace: won, unscratched!, 3 left
5 Knight: won, 2 left
6 Eleph: won, last to go!
7 Sword: It had to be the final attack, but we got kicked:

but we have
8 Sword:

:O 13 turns, it's the longest period I have seen. But it's surely worth it.
We can build perfect GP factory here: 2 claws, fish, rice

I think there is no point fighting M&M now - we need to gather some more cats first, so

I stopped cats' production for now, we need more culture instead

 

[Liquidated]

ok well pess is back in action and Liq needs to sleep as the sun is up and my coffin is whining for me to sleep.

Pess, if you wish to take next turn set please let me know by 10 pm pst as raids will end by then and I can get proper attention to this sg.

I'll grab the save at 10 pst no matter who's it is.


nice turn set ucel, I'm a chicken when it comes to combat such that glad you took out mm's capitol. one town left I'm assuming?

I just set the cards up via macemen and knights, others more capable can take the trash out with em =)

eww sunlight, I'm melting.....


Cheers!
-Liq'd

 

[pessimist]

I'll get on it as soon as I get home. Thanks for making room for me late in the rotation. Should I just jump back to my normal slot after this? Or should I get moved into this slot from now on?

Game will be posted by 8pm eastern time.

 

[ucel]

REVOLUTION!
Got Pacifism, Bureucracy and Mercantilism

3) 1560
We get bigger:

And... bad news: M&M converts to confucianism

4) 1565
Munich: Maceman -> Court
Phoenician: Monastery -> Grocer

5) 1570
Cologne: Court -> Missionary

6) 1575
Hamburg: Lighthouse->Court

7) 1580
Berlin: Settler -> Missionary
Cologne: Missionary->Missionary
Signed OB with M&M, we need to spread out religion through his land

8) 1585
Washington asks us to convert to Confucianism. Funny guy
Berlin: Missionary->Forge
KS: Theatre->Monastery

Frankfurt founded. Production set to Library.

9) 1590
Look here:

Doom, Doom II or Doom III Izzy?
Cologne: Missionary -> Caravel
We got Great Engineer in Hamburg. Great. Next should be the profet in Berlin, ETA 12 turns

Vicky discovered Liberalism , HC and Mao have Nationalism already
Let's see who can help us with Izzy. We don't really have a chance to reach her...

Alex: won't
Asoka: don't speak with us
HC: does't like us
Washington: as well
Monty: won't
Vicky: does't like us
Mao: as well
M&M as well.

Good, let's use Izzy's troops as the training meat for our troops. I need to weaken the troops on the M&M border and distribute them along the coast.
Our missionary spread Judaism in Gaul. It's the only M&M city :O.

10) 1595

Nothing interesting

11) 1600
Three, presumably empty galleys are hooking near Hamburg, Caravel should be ready next turn.
Our situation by now:

Troops are waiting in the middle of continent in the case of an unexpected attack.

Two caravels ready in next turn. IMO Hamburg should build the next now, but it's not in the queue

Two missionaries are going towards Calcuta. We can use second caravel to transfer them somewhere . Washington don't want OB with us

Nationalism due 4, still only two civs having it, we can make some decent trade with it.

Timbuktu productive in 4 turns. I suggest adopting Caste System then and turn it into GP factory. Take care of these bloody spanish galleys first!

Our Engineer waits in KS for the wonder to build. Maybe we have a chance for Taj Mahal?

And this is the save:

 

[pessimist]

hey sorry guys, I can't play this game anymore. It runs way to slowly for my machine to keep up. Sorry! I tried but after two turns it was getting really frustrating.

I am all newly patched up, and had nothing else running, so I'm pretty sure my machine just can't handle the map size and number of AIs. I mean it ran, but it took forever for me to accomplish anything.

Anyway, I'll lurk! Good luck with this one, sorry I've gotta bail.

 

[S.ilver]

Nice finish. Low casualty count is good as well.

I find it quite comical that Mansa was still "Pleased" with us right after coming out of a war where we siezed most of his empire.

Didn't expect Isabella to declare on us... looks like we're kind of becoming bottomfeeders .

Sorry about the paper, but no one would trade with me, and it was a relatively cheap tech.

We have open borders with Alex. If possible (i.e. He hasn't adopted Theocracy), I suggest we flood him with missionaries to try and convert him. If we get that to happen, we'll have the most powerful AI by a wide margin on our side.

We either finish Mansa ourselves, or he's in for the rest of the game. His Confucian allies aren't likely to turn on him. If and when we plan to invade India, we should remove Mansa as an afterthough.

 

[ndthsmdy]

Liq's up, yes?

 

[S.ilver]

Well... PST is 3 hours behind EST, and since it's 10PM where I am right now, I calculate Liq still has 3 hours to pick up the game and tell us he has it, not to mention play his turns.

 

[Liquidated]

just got home... mind is not working yet and feet are screeming to get out of these boots.

Expect my turn up by 6 am pst tonight, need food and um a few pints first... I'm alive! sorta...

lets see if guild killed um what's it's name the torturer. mind is not working as you can tell.

so um "got it"

Cheers!
-Liq

 

[Liquidated]

hehe just read silvers note... he knows me too well already.

sun is safely down? ahh Liq comes out of the shadows.

man where are all the vamp smilies????

Cheers!
-Liq

 

[Liquidated]

1600 AD preflight check... ahh good to see munich is surrounded by cottages and will NEVER grow large enough to use a quarter of them.... nothing the workers cannot fix.

switch out the queued courthouse in hamberger for another caveral in 5

notice berlins fish are out.... queue up a work boat

okie don't see much else other than kumbi needs farms as well... let me get munich going.


(1)1605 AD mali comes looking for literature from us as a gift, don't think that will be needed, he can take a hike
Cologne makes a caveral. We need health and 3 turns to pop to 9 pop so grainery in 3 wins... ok time to stall growth by setting up a temporary arist spec.
Djenne buils it's library... hmm let me see... wow djeene is our 3rd place for commerce.... ok already has a market and a library. threatre is only 2 turns then a grainery in 4 in time for it's growth in 7.

seems All I do is queue up grainerys and make farms..... Old mc's liq had a farm ei ei o, and on liq's farm he had some elephants...

Li po born far away... izzy adopts theo (hmm wonder why) Asoka begins a golden age.

caveral from cologne heads north to back up hamburgs build who takes out one of izzys galleons and stays in hamburg at 2.0/3 gets a promotion next turn to help heal up.

BOOM, an army of workers get done with TWO farms up to munich... nother food square for munich

leave the military units alone with promotions intact.

peace ends with mm.

(2) 1615 AD meet up with a guildless casar of rome... tried his salad and told him I preffered Iceberg with ranch...
Munich doesn;t need anything but food.. that's quickly happening with a 3 food surplus. Not much to build there as it's commerce sucks for now soooo catapults it is for silver!

Kumbi got a monestary for. um no idea... lets see.. no barrack no forge... forge it is... with a barracks queued so we don;t forget...

more great peeps born and mansa adpots serfdom for the rebuild lol. less work for us when that city becomes ours.


well izzy down to one gally but our caveral from cologn is 1.0/3 hp from it... bad roll prolly not gonna live next round.

Munich is just about farmed up, shipping workers to cover kumbi. deficit is down to -1 a turn @90 but -21 at 100...I leave it at 90% lol.

(3) 1620 AD galley takes out wounded caveral... booo I'll return the favor.

Nationalism comes in..... hmm. lets shop first.Trade nationalism to vicky for gunpowder and theology... no point holding on to it and vicky is pretty harmless... paper is only remaining tech and we have one turn of sience to finish it.
Finish off paper in one then will do silver a big favor.... ooo what could it be silver asks... oo ooo what gift will liq leave me with this time???? tune in NEXT TURN!!!

workboat done in berlin... start on a fast light house.
barb town is big commerce from that dye so dialed up a market.

Ttimbuktu comes online and man is it pissed.... start on a theatre and whip it on account who the hell cares if we lose 10 population or add another angry person. Seriously nice town tho... total jewel so queue up a globe theatre. ROFL I lost angry people whipping... oh the irony. The culture from teh theatre will help speed the pop to full city radius the national wonder will allow us to bulk up on population again.

Sank last izzy galley in the south with the remianing vet no damage, heading north to deal with a galley shredding timbuk's nets.

Moved to a tajmahal on cologne in 33 turns
no!
-took over the shared mine from berlin and 28 turns
NO!
-kicked the extra specs and set the free spec on engineer....
26 turns with growth in 6 turns to work either a engineer spec or another 2 food one hammer square!

Yes shaved off 7 effing turns on that wonder. lets see if we got a shot at it. all fear the min maxing of the liq.


notice hamburgs cows were never roaded..... been there before.


(4)1625AD Vicky's ugly mug pops up to request we help declare war against the greeks.... uh no thanks!!!!!

Get paper and Liq dials up a bomb for silver.... military tradition!!! gunpowder? check, horses? check.... warmonger to use cavalry? check!

Alex declares war on vicky... this could be bad for her.
izzy shreds the first fishing net....
whipped theatre finishes in timbuk start on globe theatre in 32 by placing mass generic citizens for the single hammer... revolt into caste system to make better use of those citizens.

Start on some water mills near berlin and hotdog town.



(5)1630 AD alex comes looking to trade education + 30 gold for nationalism... rather not shop too much out while rushing taj but well.... universities are keen... so take it

rome changes to islam... we gain caste system.

Move berlin over to a university

(6)1635 AD vicky cancels open borders... we cry.

Taj built in a land far away =/
greese enters a golden age... my fualt I guess he had 4 great engineers lined up for the kill.

queued a catapult to cologne as it's commerce sucks and building a focues for it would be a waste of time right now.

(7) 1640 AD izzy just dropped off 3 horse archers and a swords man next to timbuk... ok! timbuk is well defended but our towns aren;t...

took out that fish net killer of izzys and will chase down the troop galleys.

round one! knight from hamburg kills horse archer 8.5/10 hp
round two! knight from hamburg number two promotes combat 1 and kills horse archer flawless!
round three! maceman from timbuk promotes combat 1 and Kills last hors archer 1.8/8 the medic swordsman gets to work!!!!
round four! swordsman adds exp to out city attack 3 maceman.. notice our medic swordsman is 19 of 26 exp... holy hell batman that's an uber swordsman.
round 5... after those effing galleys men!!!!

that was an effing weak attack... lets bring the war to izzy after mansa.
got 67 coins form taj..

finish a catapult in munich start on another.

Start a barracks in djenne before we forget and build a military unit there.

cows in hambuger are hooked up... again... old mc. liq had a farm eie ei o and on that farm he constantly lost contact with his cows... ei ei o with a worker here and a worker there...

notice gaul has grenadires and musketmen... nothing a few calvery backed up with medics and a few cats cannot handle.

queue up the half finished courthouse in hamburg and follow that with 2 workboats for timbuk's fish.

(8)1645 AD izzy sues for peace and 30 gold I get 5 gold/ a round from her as well. deal.. she is weak sause lets get astronomy and plaster her ass after gaul.

casar adopts organized and vasselage... omen of war.

cologne builds a cat starts on a cat... 2 turns a cat is sweet, leaving all cats unpromoted and shipping them to djenne.

mass workers and running out of crap to fix... hmm. not sure what to do with them all. more watermills.

(9) 1650AD vicky comes annoyed and tells us to stop trading with the greeks... uh no thanks mum.
rome wants open borders, ok! seems he's missing many techs and has nothing to give us.

Stopping here on a nice and even number.





so wrapup!
Liq effups up on wonder booo
Liq beat off izzy's attack with a wet noodle, free unit exp one lost caveral and two fishnets to izzys 30 gold + 5/ turn peace settlement 3/5 galleys 3 horsearchers 1 swordsman. ZERO pillaging done by izzy on land.

hamburger is hooked up cows and making workboats for timbuk..
timbuk is making globe theatre since it can have insane total population with 3 fishys and rice.

cologne is a cat making monster and soon a cav making monster. only completed 3 cats but more are incoming.

farmed over a bunch of still born cottages and fed munich and kumbi!!

queued all the commerce and beaker buildings in barb town, those dyes make it a killer commerce town.

ignored missonaries. Bad liq

Told izzy her momma's on crack rock.

got us 6 turns til we are cranking out cav at cologne. all the pieces are in place once military tradition completes.

by my calculations, silver will up just in time to rollover mansa. mansa's days are numbered.

I left troops larely untouched.

posting this now let me get it prettied up in an edit.

cor the game just shut off when I opened photoshop lol good thing auto save was in 1650

oh I missed 1610.. ok well too damned tired to clean this up yet gonna pull a silver, sorry it's so effing ugly.



Cheers!
-NOT liquid!!!!! liquidated!

 

[ucel]

Damn, we started too late!
Did you forget that an Engineer waited in KS?
To the next player: switch to Caste System and start Great Artists factory in Timbuktu.

 

[Liquidated]

yeah Liq missed the engineer, though I'm not sure that would have helped. other than wasted a great person... not sure on rushing wonders.

I revolted to caste already for you. timbuk needs to finish globe as it has a chance to out strip all our other cities in size.

Might want to make a beeline for statue of liberty, that would be keen.

as for mansa I took out a major chunk of the work towards taking gaul from him... cav will own him and I set up a bunch of cats in the next round.

After that might want to roll over spain if we can get an open border with one of her guardians. could ship people over there np if we get astronomy. She founded budd so nice prize.

keep cologne pumping out catapults

Cheers!
-Liq

 

[S.ilver]

That report was halarious Liq! I was laughing most of the way through it, especially at

Ttimbuktu comes online and man is it pissed.... start on a theatre and whip it on account who the hell cares if we lose 10 population or add another angry person.

My thoughts exactly on that. It seems if you whip large portion of the population away in Civ IV, it doesn't really matter, as you're not suffering the unhappiness penalty due to the "lessening" of the overcrowdedness .

We're already in Caste System. Which is good, although I'm gonna miss mass whippings. That was the only thing keeping my army going in the retaliation, more whipped troops .

Glad to see that Military Tradition is coming up soon. We might have to do rollovers of some of the AI to catch up. Also glad that Liq is such an excellent tech trader, and managed to get us a bit farther up the tree.

Nice job fixing all the damage I caused Liq . I'm glad to know that the northern cities will finally have some food in them.

 

[ndthsmdy]

I won't get to this till Saturday, so Silver if you want to switch go ahead and take it

 

[Liquidated]

silver, it's all about the bling bling!~ I just try and set you up the tools to run crap over with.

I was so tired last night I cringe looking at that writeup, got the idea across if you can translate all the typos


Anyway I was really hard tempted to grab chemistry over education but the research bonus from education won. keep in mind my tech trades killed our taj build though it was barely started, plus cologne is better off making cats rather than working a wonder I see in hindsight imo.

I created a theatre in timbuk to start on globe... never going to get that anger out of the way before it's finished building anyway.

one more slot for the epic great peeps national wonder who's name escapes me at the moment.

Might pay to take out spain after gaul. she was really pathetic. that one turn war land was was a gulf 1 all over again.


for tech germany's tanks are really good against other tanks...

aim for tanks and bombers. between those two we'll have no issue running over even a tech advanced civ since we can pimp out cologn to be a major warmachine building bombs to ship up front.

imo we sould capilatize on the production and costal aspect of cologne and build an iron works and heroic epic build troops wonder. it's got a ton of production potential that city does.
Cheers!
-Liq

 

[Liquidated]

oh hmm ndy is out til sat... I vote silver go 20 and plaster gaul, and make him post screens this time!!!

hehe

Cheers!
-Liq