FS1-Assimilation! (Noble?)

btw that's one of the reasons I love cathrine, her UU the cossask really has no modern counter other than raw attack value. Cav really effs up gunpower units. tanks with legs ya know.


Cheers!
-Liq
 
Hmmm... I'll wait to see if Farae wants to grab it. If not, I'll do it Thursday night sometime in the evening.
 
ok well I was gonna try and play my turn but for some reason the game crashed 5 turns in and will not load the auto save..

I was just about to take out delhi too.. grrr have no time to figure out what I did to my pc... it's been on since 1.09 patch..

I have to run so a quick heads up...

jist of the matter is shore up the bombay attack force and beef up all the towns's defenses, I mean I looked at the setup and we got jack and more jack guarding our towns...

that's begging for someone to land a ton of troops on our shores.. be it india america or another empire to our south.

start building cav everywhere and keep them in reserve. we have all the forces we need north for delhi.

Start cologne on a heroic epic btw it's a monster.

I set up two generic citizens in calcutta to speed up forge... and move those missonaries up to bombay to convert delhi

work steam to see if we have coal, not gonna spoil anything for you.

we can build west point... take advantage of it, it doesn;t need to be in the city building the troops right?

BTW got home at 11 pm and well late for more work at 4 am... gotta run.

I'm gonna be walking dead in a bit.

just grab the turn silver, this bit needs your skills at popping rabbits out of hats.. shore up the home front.. once we take out india we'll be in first place easy and a top target. lets beef up home now, before that happens.

Cheers!
-Liq
 
ok well that was a hellish 3 day work sprint..

I should be awake at my normal 4 am hour, can play turn at 10 pst silver if you are stalling..


I had a long look at the save last night and know what needs to get done I pretty well so let me pick this up.

sorry about the delay, I get home and due back at work in 6 hours kinda puts a crimp on everything, sleep AND civ! my raid numbers are in the crapper as well, good thing civ is best played at 3 am.:crazyeye:

If you haven;t started turns before reading this silver, I'll pick them up.
 
Go ahead then Liq. I'd have to pull an all nighter to play them anyways :P. Not that that would be a bad thing :P
 
btw after some looking about, seems west point only works in one city.

long term wise!!!!!!
imo place west point and heroic epic in cologne, total monster port city that can pop out tanks bombers copters and ships. The faster units and where we want our port.

Find the next biggest production city we will have and place red cross and ironworks in there for our infantry farm. keep in mind who all gets the medic bonuses... tanks and bombers do not, not sure about things like ships, I'll look that up now.

I'll form that up, as is I was alarmed to see how little defense we have so I'll spend 10 turns stoping all infrastructure and building up our starting cities's garrisons. definitely want to make a bee line to assemby line for infantry.

kinda wish we could split same turns silver, let you handle the war up north and I'd just get the situation all back in balance on the home front.

Alas.. raids done soonish.

Cheers!
-Liq
 
preflight.. ok we are eggshell thin at the home front so gonna do a three stage bill of sale. saving each turn on account mass desktops into the first turn.

1. upgrade in key places.
2. build lots of cav short term as they can run over to where ever we need.
3. Bumrush assembly line for infantry.

see what we can get diplomatically....

4 gold per turn for one of our many cows to cesar... gtg

gift military tradition to washington get him to cautious, out of annoyed..
then follow it up with open borders..... that's a relief.

MM!!!
Gank commerce tile from gaul and get to pumping hammers... start on a gren to help defend it.

calcutta is 116 turns on forge and has 1 hammer... ok lets change that using generic specs for the hammah...
boom stag growth and 39 turns on forge... fear.

calcutta has two jud miss as well so moving them north to the warzone to convert the heathens.

upgrade our caverals to frigates then patrol the shores as a pair. Not wise to split them up. give the south one medic 1.

All other towns drop all and start building cav for the most part with a few excpetions like a frigate in cologne and a gren in gaul.

look at our civics and they are still messed up from that bug. still a turn from being able to change... change we will...

give Big Man todd the maceman laying about in bombay combat 10 and upgrade him to a gren. 18 exp unit with city attack 3 and grens get a bonus vs riflemen..... yum.


ok deep breath....

intermission: an elephant sallys out from Delhi and impales themselves on Ricky Martin the pikeman
[1]1805 AD JC adopts tao... lets see what that does.. well still pleased.



the pillagers veer south and catch a lone catapult sneaking up on us as well as see a third effing elephant tile.

Our cav takes the catapult out and move in his 2 buddies to guard him.. there's at least 3 elephants out there and though the cav take out one, if he bum rushes them, that's a dead cav.

Beat on delphi with the 100% hp cats... just to show them who their daddy is and start on that defensive bonus... down to 56% btw

keeping the slow units company... taking this easy.

[2] 1810 AD wow

2 cav I split off to the south to make sure nothing snuk up on the cats get hammered by an elephant and 2 grens, all 3 bad guys were killed but Joe and Schmoe are bleeding bad. promote schome to combat 1 and medic 1 as a two speed medic is a good idea then move them to Quincy, teh maceman medic2.

All cats healed 6 beat down delhi to 0% while the other two, High Roller and Big julius play themselves a game of dice.

down to 3 elephants for the bad guys and....... Bob Joe and jim, the pillaging fools clamp down on the 3rd elephant tile

have the stack of death going and he has one cat... risky ya liq is ashamed.

some of washingtons knights come around to watch.



time to change civics....

representaion since the upkeep is 6 gold lower and we have a ton of specs from our new cities. happiness is not an issue.

Nationhood to PUMP the infantrymen in silvers turn. are you ready for some footballl silver?????????

to keep it one turn of ana, can only pick one of the three remaining civics...

Caste system or slavery... hmm. go slavery to save some coin and give silver a panic switch, turning specs to engineers would be boffo but alas, not so with caste

Theo is tempting but berlin alone is averaging 6.5 commerce a turn PER trade. I can see 14 more gold just from three towns... am going for free trade.

free market it is!@!!!

revolting over to slavery and theo is not a bad idea later.

diplo!!!!

get 9 gold a turn from monty for one of our 2 elephants... win win. gift him printing press but that doesn;t get us open borders. drat.

[3]1815 AD OMG they killled JIM! those bastards!

well the AI fell for it, threw 3 elephants and 2 grenadires at us and managed to kill only jim...

delhi is down to 4 rifles 1 gravely wounded gren 1 cat and 2 longbows. all elephants are history yay!!!! safe to split off the cav now.

we are now at +12 gold a turn

rifling is done moved onto steam in 6. must get infantry for silver.

spot a galleon from india loaded with a settler and 2 riflemen one of calcutta... galley gets upgraded to a galleon and the frigates come around the horn.

Joe revenges his brother jim (RIP) and takes his grief out on a lone gren at the cav meeting spot.

[4]1820 AD India is starting to panic. a riflemen crosses the river from the north to attack Bruce and well bruce beats him down like a red headed step child.

Cologne builds a frigate named the Cola Kid and pounces on the troop ship, got 3 frigates now lets get a few more. 1 turn on university tho so lets finish that.

an indian gren is east of the cav but it's on a hill... bad news, I'll let him come to me.

[5]1825 AD CRASH.... mumble:mad:

[3]1815 AD again.... taking 5 hours to load.... if this keeps crashing ...

[4]1820 AD again....
India is starting to panic. a riflemen crosses the river from the north to attack Bruce and well bruce beats him down like a red headed step child.

Cologne builds a frigate named the Cola Kid and pounces on the troop ship, got 3 frigates now lets get a few more. keep them in pairs and patrol teh coast. 1 turn on university tho so lets finish that.

an indian gren is east of the cav but it's on a hill... bad news, I'll let him come to me.

SAVING THE EFFING GAME

[5]1825 AD oh man bruce got owned by those grens.... first jim, then bruce.... aw gawd, war is hell!

Schmoe has blood in his eyes.... fear the pissed schmoe

Schome revenges both jim and bruce and in the passing away of that gren he scores a medic 2 promote next turn.

English were destroyed. wow. one less person pissed at us I guess!

asoka adopts emance... oh well too late for him.

[6]1830 AD First of the home guard pops up, a cav from hamburg, gonna send him to lets see... berlin as it's cental to the area we are concerned

berlin builds a gren, lets get another after that grocery.

Dickens helping hold the fort at bombay spots a gren on a hill across the river and in his haste attacks them and........ not only wins, takes not a scratch. What a lucky Dickins.

that gren came from delhi so 4 rifles a longbow and a catapult left, I"ll let him stew.

Bombay is out of revolt and working on a gren. only 2 unhappy at 11 population, that's keen!

[7]1835 AD hmmm a great artist is in delhi... hmm

ok I'll go for it.

0% defence? check

no crossed rivers? check
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suicide cats are go!
Izzat the lowest exp cat goes first. Run iz RUN! izzat didn;t run, izzat died!

morris the cat promotes bombardment and.... died.. he was always too finiky anyway

Frisky is up next and follows in his fellow felines foot steps.. promotes bombardment and dies. 9 lievs my ass.

ok 0 for 3 but they all did damage to all but the big shot sharpshooter, we got Big Man Todd up, maceman turned bomb fancier, who can dismantle the top dog rifleman no problem... FLAWLESS.. his fans scream.

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now that the big dog is gone suicide cats are coming back with renewed excitement... felix comes in and stinks up the joint. NEXT!

Harlem is big and bad and not afraid to die... he scoots on by after inflicting grevious wounds, that's one cool cat.
Arnold thinks if harlem can do it, he can too. and he does!!! next thing you know he's gonna run for governer.

Bob the cav steps up and runs like the B****h he is trailing blood to and from the fight.

Stan is the man and we are down to 2 rifles, a cat and a longbow both of which are crying for their mothers.

Carl is hot!.. erm wait,,, Carl is no jr.?... hmm no... he won!

Joe cav claims it's all just a flesh wound and steps up from Quincy's med shack to beat the long bow silly with his riding crop.

Jim is just hanging on by a thread but that's enough to flatten the last rifleman who were reduced to using water with their cornflakes.

last up is the Cat himself, Big julious. Cool is for cats incarnate looks up from his craps game with high roller and strolls on into Delhi for some CAt on Cat action tonight! he cleans up with 153 in winnings and finds a nice back alley for him and highroller to reconvine the important matter at hand.


:eek: WHAT IN TARNATIONS:mad:

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I spot a flotilla from rome coming loaded up with all manner of nasties off frankfurt.

ok well screw this... revolting slavery and find out for some reason the civc changes never happened? hmm WTH.

Well go for universal sufferage AND slavery AND nationalism for the low low price of 1 turn of anarcy.

yup you can pay em, whip em or post big ass posters of some scary looking man with a goofy stipped hat, pointing directly at YOU.

Ceasar is pleased so lets see WTH..

oh were you wondering how we could use sufferage?
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[8]1840 AD rome declares war and drops off his stack of doom.

WTH

well 2/3 on frigate to frigate action with Cola kid biting it... Ace of bass and Lowdown sunset get promotions

draft and rush in frankfurt, the cav Mean Gene kills one gren.

whipping and poking and prodding all day long to rush some stuff, feel like silver.

[9] 1845 AD holy hell the killer stack of rome's stood their ground and piled on Frank...
only standing man was mean gene and he needs a medic!!!!!!

the rush rifleman comes in and a pack of cav.

horrible rolls on the navel battles with the only winner being the frigate Kate that was built this turn from cologne.

Rome is down to 3 galleons and Kate is unhurt. She will hunt them down

we lost berlins fish net btw - work order queued

Franfurt drafts again, 2 cav come in to help but only rodney is able attack with pete coming to cover.

oh we have coal north of cologne... a city blessed by the war gods.

All roman intruders are dead.

steam came in and working Assembly line in 7.

[10]1850 AD my heart beats fast as I hear more wardrums! monty attacks the back stabbing rome. good.
the 3 escortless galleons flee and pillage another net.. putting cologne in starvation, then there were two as Kate stalks them.

workboat in cologne in 1.
workboat in berlin in 1

trade steam for scientific

we have oil near Munich... crap gaul switched to america. not sure when. well not like we built much there.

Delhi is jewish now.

Am beat tired... exhausting round....
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your turn to clean up someone's mess silver! sorry took so long but for some reason turn 5 so wanted to crash.

get infantry due in 7 and mass draft a garrison imo.

Can focus on infrastructure.

the taking of Delhi catapulted us in score and broke indias back.. that is a MAJOR prize and he stripped all his other towns to try and keep it.... grab bangalore next before bothering with coventry.


silver there's stuff to do this turn still I think so look closely. Cavs are becoming obsolete so keep what we have. let cologne finish it's queue, it'll be a war machine.

I went and lost gaul to america... kinda a foregone conclusion I guess.

hunt those bastard boats down with kate.

fast post to get save.

seems I forgot to change civic after the crash so never did the first civic change...

Get infantry and consider going a turn with no science to grab cash.. finish calcuttas forge as you see fit that one engineer spec is major... can whip or buy it.


Cheers!
-Liq
 
keep in mind Big Man Todd can take out a full hp rifleman easy if you can lower the city defense. take big julious and highroller the cool cats, todd and a cav escort or 2 over to bangldore and no need for suiciding the cats.

He has a twin, (Big Man Cecil?) city attack 3 maceman in bombay.. promote him to gren and he can head to coventry under cav escort with harlem and Arnold meeting up. keep them all with cav to ward off sneak attacks.

Then again just how many other cities does india have????

new save, beefed up Big Man Cecil

Cheers!
-Liq
 

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Nice pathetic sneak attack by Saladman. Someone should mod things so overseas warfare can actually be possible. Only it's not so clear what should be modded (ship capacity, speed, AI ability...)
 
I was fully expecting america or capac to attack us, rome was the furthest thing from my mind.

those bastards.

that civc change + loose cav really came in handy.

used all our cash too... p0

Cheers!
-Liq
 
Excellent turnset Liq! And you said you didn't have the heart for Warmongering. Then you go and kick in Asoka's head and destroy his armies ;).

I'll take a look at the game tonight (hopefully play it too :D).
 
oh man tanks so far away still.. more cav it is..

list of techs we need for panzers are

assembly line (done in 7)

physics(7) + electricity(10)

steel(7) + railroad(8) + combustion(9) to tap oil

that's a long ways away and only washington has steel and assemby line..

Cheers!
-Liq
 
Sorry for the delay guys. Took a bit longer than I anticipated.

Turn (0): Preflight check.

Trade Silks to HC for Gems. More happiness is always good. Switch a frigate in Colonge. I want Caesar's ships at the bottom of the ocean!

Turn (1): I set my military plan into action. I immediately draft a riflemen from Timbuktu. And they ignore me and continue watching Shakespeare. These guys will go up and help garrison while the cavs move on. The barracks in Timbuk gives them 2 exp off the bat, so they can get city garrison promotion, and they'll last against the enemy.

I split the stack sitting in Delhi. Half of it remains there (the wounded half, and the pikes, while the rest move North to attack Banglore.

Turn (2): I start plundering Asoka's towns. Most of this won't be useable by us for a bit. I'd rather get the gold in advance.

All this pillaging lets me start upgrading those pikes I left in Delhi.

Turn (3): It appears that it is Isabella to the North of Bangalore. My maurading cavalry discovered such. What a relief. I did not want to culture war another one of Washington's cities.

Turn (4): The stack's arrival at Banglore shows our lack of Catapults. 4 pults can't take down the defences. I will need to wait till next turn. In the mean time, our low production cities are making more pults for the conquest, while high production ones are working on more cavs (or rifles, if they are close enough).

Turn (5): Dehli is out of revolt. It's pissed. And it can't work a single square due to cultural pressure. However, thanks to the stack I left there, chance of revolt is 0.27%, a safe number. I whip a theatre to help with the cultural problems.

Banglore's cultural influence defence is down! Now Big Man Todd plays catch with some grenadiers in Banglore, and wins (god I love +75% city attack).

Joe brings the smack down on one of the riflemen. Then one of my uncreative, unamed cavalry dies. But Pinch hurts bigtime, and Mr. Rifle is wounded bad. Followup unamed cavalry comes in...

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Look at him fly! Banglore is ours! Dehli reports significantly LESS problems with culture.

Turn (6): Assembly line comes in, start on steel. Some AI's have it, but won't trade it. Go figure. I want artillery.

A nice convience of Assembly Line is this. Look what the draft button brought in.

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Turn (7): Caesar runs to us begging for peace, offering 200 gold. I have no idea where on the map he is. I play with the agreement, and get him to give us 5 gpt as well.

Man, I really like free infantry every turn.

I decide that desperate times call for desperate measures. Coventry is a CAPTURED city and has tonnes of culture. The cats aren't going to make it here any time soon. And I want Delhi productive.

Despite withdraw chance, Jim dies :(.
Despite having no higher withdraw chance, Carl runs from battle. Smart move.
Stan does nothing except take hits and run.
Dickens dies.
Big Man Cecil solves this "tough guy rifleman" problem.
Rodney gets hurt a lot, but finishes off one rifle.
n00b cavalry fresh outta the barracks manages to off the last rifle!

And just like that, the cultural problem dissapates.

Oh, I just looked closely, and it seems that Liq scored bigtime when he siezed Dehli...

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Turn (8): There is still some culture push on Delhi, looks to be coming from the direct east. I would have the city on this dot...

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Otherwise, just a general shuffling of units.

Turn (9): Starting to push units at that hidden Eastern city. I want it, but ucel will have to take it :P. We have a significant amount of infantry coming towards the front now, mostly conscripted from Timbuktu, but a lot of it also upgraded. Actually built infantry have not yet finished.

Turn (10): Whadda y'know, I was right. The city right there is Madras, now the capital of India. Well we can't have that can we? We must take it :).

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Sweet. Mao didn't have assembly line yet. Why didn't I check earlier? I got his world map, and Biology outta him (and a measly 20 gold).

Yay! I have an almost complete world map now! Something I would've never gotten out of Alexander.

Well, well, well... Look at this...

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Ok, strategic overview time again.

Steel is coming in one turn. Is it good to build tonnes of cannons? Probably not, as artillery can be researched IMMEDIATELY after Steel comes in. So ignore the cannons and start on Artillery while Madras is dealt with.

Our standing army continues to grow, and I have almost all cities making military units, but it's getting stretched out. Our conquests of India are stretching out our military. With our recent acquisition of a relatively good world map, I can see we have India on the rocks. They might have 3 cities left on the mainland, and one on that island to the southwest of us. We should take what is left of their empire, and leave them to be an island state. We should also grab some techs after we finish with them.

Mao seems to have not done much business with either Washington or Isabella, as there is LIMITED intel on their empires. I suspect their borders clash, and it looks like Washington either fought Izzy, or got a culture flip, because he owns Toledo. Come to think of it, we have open borders with Washington, so we might as well send some cavs in there to figure out what's up with him.

Now that we have infantry, we may want to stockpile them, and mass upgrade our cats to artillery when we get it. Then we can deal some serious hurt to Washington. Izzy registers as a non-threat, seeing as I saw a stack of pikemen and crossbowmen walking around. Oh yeah. There is a Spanish CHARIOT parked next to Banglore. And we thought we were backwards.

Montezuma has an impressive overseas empire, Caesar does not. They'll both probably not be threats. Montezuma MAY become a threat once better ships come around, but then, we can become a threat too.

I suggest we bottle up the Taoists to the south. Washington and Isabella can be absorbed into our empire, and then we can move to betray our sometime allies :D.

A nice picture of our growing empire.

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These saves are getting too big...
 

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Holy crapoly, Mao definitely had a nice map for us. Compare the minimaps of the last two screenies :)

Where are Incas on power? May be feasible to be fighting them and Izzy/Wash at the same time. As far as I can remember the Incas have never liked us anyway.
 
see what I mean silver? asoka pulled like the majority of his units out to buffer dehli.. there was jack and um more jack in bangalore and coventry, great job finishing off the other two to make my one push into 3.

where there actually any healed units in dehli? I left the game with the impression they were all beat to hell and back.

did you move up bigman cecil in bombay? he's todd's twin.

as for techs, get railroad after steel because we have the complete rail roading kit avail..

coal is being worked
ton of idle workers

gg

don;t just auto the workers, pave a path to the front, timbuk is gonna be drafing a ton of infantry.

Great turn silver, gotta love the globe.

Cheers!
-Liq
 
ok well after going back a ton of posts... I dreged up a new turn log...

1) S.ilver
2) ucel
3) Liquidated


ndy and pess bowed out due to pc issues (not sure what was up with 1800's there was somting ugly going on for me as well)

Farae is just plain MIA. until we hear anything contrary lets just on the one two three.

You are up ucel.


Cheers!
-Liq
 
I have it, but can't play sooner than in 36 hours. Feel free if you want to switch me.
 
ok I'll grab it..

I'm assuming you me and silver are of the same mind in that order is not paramount.

I trust both of you implicitly such that play when we each can and just explain what's up when you do.. Holidays are coming around and when family comes knocking, Civ suffers.:cry:

I'll play this round now and if you, silver, are hopping to get going after Liq just go guy..

as soon as you are able just butt in ucel ok? :)

all these pronouns making my head spin, see why Liq uses the 3rd person approach?

now to reread silvers turn, this time with a fine tooth comb.

Much respect for both of you.:worship:

Cheers!
-Liq
 
ndthsmdy said:
Holy crapoly, Mao definitely had a nice map for us. Compare the minimaps of the last two screenies :)

Heh. I know. After I had finished the last turn, I thought "Yes! Done finally!" Then I thought... maybe I should try and trade something with the Taoist block. So I shopped around. Can't trade anything to Alex, as he's too advanced. But Mao... he didn't have Assembly Line! At first he wanted to give us Divine Right for it, and I nearly wet myself laughing. Divine Right is so completely useless to us. It allows us to either found Islam (too late, England already did that, and they're dead :P), or two build one of two wonders which are built already, one of them which are ours due to the conquest of Dehli. Funny how we have a wonder without the corresponding tech eh?

Upon getting Mao's world map, I looked about in wonder, and it took me a half an hour extra to absorb all the new details.

Todd and Cecil are in Dehli and Coventry respectively. They're no longer grenadiers :). City attack 3 infantry are going to be sweet, and they still have a vs gunpowder bonus.

Incans are Cautious with us. I'd rather not move south just yet. We have a huge border to the north that needs to be eliminated first. If the Taoists decide to attack us, we can bottleneck them at Viticos, and hope the our Navy is up to scratch. Oh yeah, notice that Alex is no longer "Taoist". I just checked and it seems he adopted Freedom of Religion. Interesting.

I'm trying to stay with our general theme of destroying the Confician Axis :lol: . Victoria was Conficuist, until she discovered Islam. M&M converted to Confuciasm after we romped his butt the second time. Asoka and Washington have been Confuciast for the longest of times. Isabella is Buddhist, so we'll just destroy her as an afterthought. Maybe we can send some draftees in there for practice.

You're right about the beat to hell units in Dehli. But you'd be amazed at what the medic promotion can do for that :). And yeah, the workers have been sitting around. I've tried very hard to get them something productive to do, then I just gave up and chained them to a cavalry to escort them to Banglore, to repair... uh... the pillaging damage... heh.
 
Don't underestimate DR. Don't you need this tech to have Spiral Minaret working?
 
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