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[GS] Future Update?

Discussion in 'Civ6 - General Discussions' started by Aussie_Lurker, Sep 10, 2019.

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  1. riddleofsteel

    riddleofsteel Office Linebacker

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    Mmm, something else the world doesn't need. ;)
     
  2. cvb

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    Déjà vu ... I already thought "He was an ok drummer, but why start singing in much TOO SMALL shoes?
    So what is this reunion compared with early Genesis ... a Revelation?

    But indeed, who had ever thought this and still NO word from Firaxis for months?

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  3. Neirai

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    I'm going to go out on a limb (danger: vague know-how and not good research here) that historically the longsword had significant cultural impact; I am comparing it to 1) the stirrup, which broke the balance of power by making men on horseback suddenly able to hit with the momentum of the horse instead of the rider, and 2) the rifle vs musket. Both seem small but in practice at times in history they swung entire philosophies of warfare.
     
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  4. acluewithout

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    I agree with @Boris Gudenuf in principle, but we’re basically stuck with the current unit structures at this point in the game’s development. Personally I would prefer to have just one type of “melee” unit, and have a more direct connection between units and overall Population and Economy (a bit like EU IV’s Force Limit), instead of the current split between Melee and Anti-Cav and he unlimited ability to keep cranking out units (where do all these men come from!?!), but it is what it is.

    My hope is that whatever Medieval Melee we get, it’s just not a Longswordsmen. None of the options are particularly historical, but that options seems the least historical to me.

    My other hopes are that FXS maybe tweak the Melee +10 v AC and make it a bit more situational rather than a flat bonus, and perhaps re-introduce some sort of bonus for Gunpowder Units v Non-Gun Powder Units. That and just a general balance pass for units. But I’m not holding my breath. Until then, there’s @Sostratus ’s Mod.

    Leaving aside silly Longswordsmen, I am looking forward to other unit gaps getting filled, particularly Seige and Ranged (Trebuchets and Compound Bows). If we get some good Future Units that could be quite cool.
     
  5. tedhebert

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    Sorry couldn't let this pass... Collins was a lot of things ( and still is), both negative and positive, depending on point of view... But OK Drummer ? No ! Please ! Collins was one of the best drummers EVER ! Period ! That's not even open to discussion !
     
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  6. SammyKhalifa

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    Civ 4 "Mace Man" says hi. :D
     
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  7. The googles do nothing

    The googles do nothing King

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    'Upgraded Swordsman' really are just corps and army.
     
  8. Pietato

    Pietato Platonic Perfection

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    You should have opened this statement with 'Hold on!'.
     
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  9. Eagle Pursuit

    Eagle Pursuit Scir-Gerefa

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    2kqa_c had another evening update.
     
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  10. WillowBrook

    WillowBrook Lurker

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    That's two evenings in a row (in the U.S.) - are they pulling late hours trying to finish up something? Or are the depots being updated from somewhere else in the world?
     
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  11. The googles do nothing

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  12. leif erikson

    leif erikson Game of the Month Fanatic Administrator Supporter GOTM Staff

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    Moderator Action: Please take discussions of Swordsmen to a separate thread. Drummers are off topic. We are starting to see some action and spamming this thread needs to stop.
     
  13. acluewithout

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    Sigh. Just imagine if FXS suddenly dropped a Third Expansion announcement? It’d be nuts.

    So, an announcement. Two months of live streams. Then 8 leaders / civs including favourites like Portugal. Presumably a bunch of wonder, unit and building gaps filled. You could assume some old Civ 5 mechanics updated and brought back? Maybe some new things? No idea what, but I’d expect some speculation and suggestions would be proven right and there would also be some good surprises. And then, most importantly, a patch. Honestly, almost the best thing about GS was just the patch that came with it.

    I mean, having waited this long, there would be much eye-rolling. But still. Nuts.

    If there’s a expansion coming, I’m guessing there’s still a long wait ahead - assuming nothing would be released until about 2+ months after an announcement.

    But still seems like something smaller to me, otherwise why 10 achievements? Why the survey about DLC? I like @Eagle Pursuit ‘s idea that FXS would release a free scenario etc to keep people amused, and then a Third Expansion later. But that seems very hopeful to me.

    This is all quite tedious.
     
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  14. blackcatatonic

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    At the time the survey came out, I thought it was mostly there to inform decision-making about Civ 7. But then at the time I assumed they were doing a third expansion with the November-February timescale, and that it would be well under development by then.
     
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    I’d also (wrongly) assumed 3XP Nov-Feb, and so assumed the survey was about content after a Third Expansion.

    Now I don’t know what to think. Given how long the delay has been, and given people seem to be generally asking for a 3XP, it feels like we might get a Third Expansion. There’s certainly enough space in the game for one. But all the other indications seem like DLC.

    In fairness, I could see the logic of delaying a Third Expansion, to give people more time to digest the previous content, get all the console versions out and (most importantly) let people’s wallets recover. But the kind of sort of silence at this stage is a mystery.

    To be clear, I’m not too worried. I’m quite enjoying EU IV and BattleTech - big games that scratch similar or parallel itches[0], and both which feel much more complete. Still. I’d like to know if we’re basically done or not for Civ and, if not, when FXS is going to fill out those last bits (or, indeed, go beyond that and really really add new stuff to this game).[1]

    [0] On reflection, that metaphor sounds a bit gross.

    [1] And sorry, I’m probably just saying the same things over and over again but with different words. I’m just a bit fed up with this yes no maybe Expansion DLC Content etc.
     
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  16. josgre987

    josgre987 Chieftain

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    I just wish we got at least a little communication. The silence from the devs is driving me insane. Its gotten to the point that I actually have dreams about the next expansion. I need help.
     
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  17. acluewithout

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    Exactly. I’m happy to wait for stuff. I don’t need a freaking dev diary live stream alpha test shenanigans. Just, you know, a bit of communication about what on earth is going on.
     
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    Theres No Reply....No reply at all...
     
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    Kaan Boztepe Prince

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    first step is to recognize you have a problem , second step is to ignore it and keep coming to this very "winter update" topic non stop all the time. welcome to the brotherhood of the civfanatics.
     
  20. acluewithout

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    Yeah. That’s my problem currently too...
     
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