[GS] Gathering Storm Screenshots Discussion Thread

[Trav'ling Canuck]

Huzzah for no longer being penalized for building "obsolete" wonders. I've literally delayed taking the civic that advances what wonders I can discount because I'm working on an older wonder, so that change is much appreciated.

It also means less time spent trying to figure out which era a particular Wonder is from.

 

[Disgustipated]

Mountains were unpassable during the Antiquity and Middle Ages

Just recently an ancient man (or maybe it was a Neanderthal) was found in the Alps by some hikers on a glacier. Only recently had it melted enough for them to spot him. People were crossing mountains all the time, just maybe not in large groups (Hannibal aside).

 

[Guandao]

Just recently an ancient man (or maybe it was a Neanderthal) was found in the Alps by some hikers on a glacier. Only recently had it melted enough for them to spot him. People were crossing mountains all the time, just maybe not in large groups (Hannibal aside).

You mean Otzi?

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

You mean Otzi?

That was 20 years ago.

 

[Boris Gudenuf]

Just recently an ancient man (or maybe it was a Neanderthal) was found in the Alps by some hikers on a glacier. Only recently had it melted enough for them to spot him. People were crossing mountains all the time, just maybe not in large groups (Hannibal aside).

Modern man, not Neanderthal, and dates from before Start of Game. More to our point, Alexander the Great campaigned right through the Zagros Mountains, the Romans and Gauls marched and campaigned through modern Switzerland, the Nepalese, Tibetans, Georgians and Armenians all built states/empires in mountains/mountainous terrain. And in more modern times, Suvorov took an entire Russian army through the Alps at the end of the 18th century (Industrial Era in game terms) - complete with artillery!
Hannibal was an amateur - and he lost most of his elephants with his little Alpine Ramble...

Mountains were always dangerous, and required preparation (Alexander spent several months in Babylon training his army for mountain warfare) but were never impassable as the game would have it...

 

[Disgustipated]

You mean Otzi?

It may have been, strange the article I read on it was recent. I think because they discovered some new clues about him.

 

[tedhebert]

Would make Lisboa a very good city state then.

Or Venice ???

 

[Zaarin]

Hannibal was an amateur - and he lost most of his elephants with his little Alpine Ramble...

I liked the post for the rest of its content, but I must object most strongly to this comment. North African elephants were tropical animals; of course they died in the Alps! What Hannibal really needed was mammoth cavalry. (Regardless of his defeat at Cannae, Hannibal was both a brilliant general and a brilliant politician, and I strongly resent the mythical Dido's usurping his place not once but twice now. )

 

[Siptah]

Or Venice ???

No, I specifically meant the Lisbon CS as it is right now.

 

[DWilson]

I liked the post for the rest of its content, but I must object most strongly to this comment. North African elephants were tropical animals; of course they died in the Alps! What Hannibal really needed was mammoth cavalry. (Regardless of his defeat at Cannae, Hannibal was both a brilliant general and a brilliant politician, and I strongly resent the mythical Dido's usurping his place not once but twice now. )

I mean, I'm less bothered that he's not the leader of Phoenicia

 

[Zaarin]

I mean, I'm less bothered that he's not the leader of Phonecia

I'm bothered that it's Phoenicia in the first place.

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

I'm bothered that it's Phoenicia in the first place.

The problem with Carthage is that the bonuses inevitably encompass the dumb trans-alpine pachyderms. I'd rather hew closer to their thalassocratic tendencies. And if it means being Phoenicia instead of Carthage, I accept that.

 

[AriochIV]

We don't know the details yet, but having a little twist opens up the opportunity for some different choices, instead of the same old ones we've seen before.

 

[Zaarin]

The problem with Carthage is that the bonuses inevitably encompass the dumb trans-alpine pachyderms. I'd rather hew closer to their thalassocratic tendencies. And if it means being Phoenicia instead of Carthage, I accept that.

Yes, but Carthage should be all about trade, exploration, and naval supremacy. The same is true for Phoenicia, but Carthage has big personality leaders who don't have to be drawn from a Roman epic poem. *sigh* It really is Gilgamesh all over again. At the very least they could have gone with Hiram I of Tyre: he's not exactly a big personality, but at least he's historically attested...

(With Phoenicia in the game, though, I now really, really want a Cedar of Lebanon luxury resource--or even generalize it to Exotic Wood and make it look like Cedar of Lebanon...)

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

Yes, but Carthage should be all about trade, exploration, and naval supremacy. The same is true for Phoenicia, but Carthage has big personality leaders who don't have to be drawn from a Roman epic poem. *sigh* It really is Gilgamesh all over again. At the very least they could have gone with Hiram I of Tyre: he's not exactly a big personality, but at least he's historically attested...

(With Phoenicia in the game, though, I now really, really want a Cedar of Lebanon luxury resource--or even generalize it to Exotic Wood and make it look like Cedar of Lebanon...)

Or Tyrian Purple dye from the sea...

 

[Zaarin]

Or Tyrian Purple dye from the sea...

And since the Phoenicians harvested the Murex snail to pretty near extinction, it's a luxury that would actually make sense to ban. Yes, Tyrian purple would be another great resource. Since Saffron is both a very costly (and delicious) spice and a very costly dye, I wouldn't mind seeing it made its own thing, either...

 

[Steamboat Willem]

So, imagine really important canal you build --- and AI use it for their trade (because it gives them double gold) --- and you put gouvernor there which have that promotion for +3 gold for all trade routes passing through that city.

Problem with that is that that promotion (Reyna's Foreign Exchange) has been replaced. Hopefully something similar will pop up somewhere else, because it would be a really nice historical flavor if you could benefit from attracting trade routes to your cities.

 

[usadefcon1]

Sorry if it's been mentioned already, but do we know what this is?

 

[Laurana Kanan]

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Sorry if it's been mentioned already, but do we know what this is?

World Congress timer has been suggested.

 

[CivLuvah]

I have a gripe with the docks in the coastal cities during the ancient era looking like they're from the medieval era. Who else has the same issue?