General rules for All IOT Games

[Ailedhoo]

For God's sake. This is a set of forum games, not some undeveloped nation where a single person carries the fasces around.

If a GM wants to reward people for adding to a wiki, how does that hurt?

May as well eliminate RP bonuses in general, then, given that they can be just as lopsided. Just as a player can take time to write themselves a series of essays for RP, they could also write an article.

Adding to wikis should be voluntery, not a thing for a forum game to set. RP points are meant for the game itself, not about writting of it in a wiki. RP bonuses are meant for in game action, not for off site action. It is hence I suggest RP be set to a single site if need be, for all relating to the game should be on the same site to be counted for RP points, not from writting a wiki on another site, especilly when one declares they will not reconise the efforts on another wiki. Hence because of this there should be clear cut notion that RP is not wiki writting.

A GM should leave the wiki as a voluntery thing. Writting a article should not give the Empire of Kingdoms for example a boost in some area since it is not of relative focus. RP should be rewarded. However it must be noted that RP is on the game, not in its wiki.

 

[NinjaCow64]

Adding to wikis should be voluntery, not a thing for a forum game to set. RP points are meant for the game itself, not about writting of it in a wiki. RP bonuses are meant for in game action, not for off site action. It is hence I suggest RP be set to a single site if need be, for all relating to the game should be on the same site to be counted for RP points, not from writting a wiki on another site, especilly when one declares they will not reconise the efforts on another wiki. Hence because of this there should be clear cut notion that RP is not wiki writting.

A GM should leave the wiki as a voluntery thing. Writting a article should not give the Empire of Kingdoms for example a boost in some area since it is not of relative focus. RP should be rewarded. However it must be noted that RP is on the game, not in its wiki.

Well surely it's up to the induvidual GM. The GM can give bonuses for editing the Dolphin Wiki for all I care, it's up to them.

 

[Ailedhoo]

Well surely it's up to the induvidual GM. The GM can give bonuses for editing the Dolphin Wiki for all I care, it's up to them.

...which only points why this need not be a pratice. I suggest a community rule on this. Its the only way to be sure.

 

[Tani Coyote]

Adding to wikis should be voluntery, not a thing for a forum game to set. RP points are meant for the game itself, not about writting of it in a wiki. RP bonuses are meant for in game action, not for off site action. It is hence I suggest RP be set to a single site if need be, for all relating to the game should be on the same site to be counted for RP points, not from writting a wiki on another site, especilly when one declares they will not reconise the efforts on another wiki. Hence because of this there should be clear cut notion that RP is not wiki writting.

A GM should leave the wiki as a voluntery thing. Writting a article should not give the Empire of Kingdoms for example a boost in some area since it is not of relative focus. RP should be rewarded. However it must be noted that RP is on the game, not in its wiki.

May I ask why this is suddenly of issue to you? Why now, and not the many months the wiki has been in operation?

Really, this issue was never brought up... so I don't see why we should bring this up.

I think the current standard ruleset for IOTs this topic has established is satisfactory.

Well surely it's up to the induvidual GM. The GM can give bonuses for editing the Dolphin Wiki for all I care, it's up to them.

I concur.

 

[NinjaCow64]

...which only points why this need not be a pratice. I suggest a community rule on this. Its the only way to be sure.

That's just stupid. As long as the rulesets don't specifically break the CFC Forum rules, then anything should be allowed. Mind you, if they are really stupid rules no one will play the game, but it still should be up to the GM.

 

[Ailedhoo]

May I ask why this is suddenly of issue to you? Why now, and not the many months the wiki has been in operation?

Really, this issue was never brought up... so I don't see why we should bring this up.

I think the current standard ruleset for IOTs this topic has established is satisfactory.

It came up when I realise your plan was a advertisement policy most unwell. The current is well. Let I feel it should not be set for simple RP points. A wiki should be voluntery. The action in MP3, especilly by trying to divide the community, is unfounded for it takes away from the game the purpose of RP: to get in the game. Instead with the wiki it becomes mear browny points.

Hence I suggest a revision of policy.

 

[Tani Coyote]

A large part of the reason the wiki grew in the first place was because Sonereal and other GMs offered points for it.

For you and Thorvald it's a labor of love, but really, the way to get it reliably maintained is by encouraging players to go do work on it. And I'm not forking over money, so I instead offer bonuses.

People respond to incentives. It's basic economics.

 

[Ailedhoo]

A large part of the reason the wiki grew in the first place was because Sonereal and other GMs offered points for it.

For you and Thorvald it's a labor of love, but really, the way to get it reliably maintained is by encouraging players to go do work on it. And I'm not forking over money, so I instead offer bonuses.

People respond to incentives. It's basic economics.

"basic ecomonics" is the justification that is not of IOT. IOT is not ecomonics. The mind "everything is ecomonics" is of... degrading to the effects of soceity.

Capitalism is a ill.

 

[mayor]

He was making an analogy not actually saying IOT is economics, which is infact the case in thepre advances IOTs btw.

That said, I agree with Tany. It should jot be specified in the General rules what counts as RP if we start doing that who knows where it ends. Specifying the amount of provinces people may start with? What a province should provide qua EP? Whether or not EP is called EP or IP?

The General rule should bh what it says it is, General. They shouldn't go into specifics, that is up to each individual GM

 

[Tani Coyote]

"basic ecomonics" is the justification that is not of IOT. IOT is not ecomonics. The mind "everything is ecomonics" is of... degrading to the effects of soceity.

Capitalism is a ill.

This is a franchise of games, not an RL socioeconomic system that needs serious care to ensure the best for all its members.

There is no real binding reason to prevent sources outside the game from contributing to RP.

All the other rules have been to reinforce the stability of the games. Having to mark comments as specifically IC/OOC is logical to prevent confusion. Not metagaming is reasonable because metagaming is just unfair. And so on.

What do we stand to gain from banning RP bonuses from wikis?

And why not RP bonuses in general?

Never mind, here's the clincher: how do you enforce it?

The more regulations there are, the harder and harder it will be to enforce them. The set of IOT rules is to guarantee order and fair play, not to legislate our views of what's good and evil on eachother.

 

[CivOasis]

Half the struggle has been encouraging the wiki in the first place, banning RP on it is completely contrary to what most of the community wants and needs.
And, for the most part, it IS sill entirely optional.

 

[Sonereal]

Again, the GM has the right to count editing a wiki as RP. You don't have to if you don't want to, but you can. If you don't like it, either don't do it or leave the game.

Hell, the GM has the right to do whatever the hell he feels like provided they don't break the Constitution. We don't need to add rules after rules limiting player options because some players disagree with those options.

 

[Thorvald of Lym]

I'm pretty sure Ailed's sudden hostility stems from the fact that Tani's gone and made his own separate wiki, rather than encourage people toward the Wiki.

 

[Double A]

When and why did Tany make another wiki?

 

[Tani Coyote]

I'm pretty sure Ailed's sudden hostility stems from the fact that Tani's gone and made his own separate wiki, rather than encourage people toward the Wiki.

Which is why I repeat myself: if he doesn't like the new wiki, no one's making him or anyone else edit it. Just as no one was making anyone else edit the others, or edit any other wiki ever made on the history of this god-given Earth.

When and why did Tany make another wiki?

Creative differences.

Been planned for a while now.

 

[Robert Can't]

What...?

Why more than one Wiki? Just why?! I would understand if it was a wiki like the IOT7 Wiki but a whole 'nother IOT wiki... That's just uncalled for. I don't care what your beef with Ailed is but surely it doesn't mean you have to do another of your attempted Schisms...

 

[JohannaK]

Or an I&B4 Wiki. Although there is already an I&B Wiki, iirc.

 

[Tani Coyote]

Can we please keep discussion to the merits of the rule and not get into the motives?

Banning RP bonuses based on offsite behavior is just unnecessary bureaucracy, and it is also impossible to enforce.

Also. Once more.

The issue has never come up before. Ergo, this strikes me as a proposal motivated by personal reasons, and not professional. It has no merit in this court.

 

[Terrance888]

As NESes go, leave it up to the GM/Mod.

 

[JohannaK]

As EVERYTHING go, leave it up to the GM/Mod.