1889
Mayor of H-Marker Lake
Oops. I just logged on to check demographics and the diplo screen came up. Kaz is offering a cease fire. That was part of the deal so I suppose I should accept.
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Krill
Deity
Yeah, I think we have to accept that.
1889
Mayor of H-Marker Lake
Done, although we may have missed our chance to demand writing in exchange for a peace treaty.
Krill
Deity
We already gave them the offer of the path of twilight; demanding something else now after the fact is just a way to spoil our reputation for a handful of beakers.
Ronnie1
Deity
Except we wanted a peace treaty, not a cease fire I thought....technically, they could show up with 2 axes on a boat and DOW next turn.
Krill
Deity
If they had sailing...but point taken. We ought to send a letter asking about that peace treaty, or we hold it back and try to use it against them later.
AutomatedTeller
Frequent poster
I'm not sure what I suggested that Krill was responding to 
I'm fine with going S->SE (pigs) or S->S or S->SW or even S->NW (which is essentially just E) and I'm fine with leaving the final decision to Memphus.
I think I'm leaning more towards seeing what is around the horses.
I'm confused about what agreement Kaz broke, though? They declared, they went through, they asked for peace. Isn't that what we said?
I'm fine with going S->SE (pigs) or S->S or S->SW or even S->NW (which is essentially just E) and I'm fine with leaving the final decision to Memphus.
I think I'm leaning more towards seeing what is around the horses.
I'm confused about what agreement Kaz broke, though? They declared, they went through, they asked for peace. Isn't that what we said?
Close....
We said: Peace.
They offered: Cease Fire.
Technicality yes. but still they didn't uphold their agreement. IMO the same idea would be if we offered to trade X for Y. but then instead gave them Z as a tech. Where Z is the same
value as X, but X was a militaristic (and much more strategic) tech.AutomatedTeller
Frequent poster
This is from our email:
From this, you can argue that a cease fire is closer to what we agreed to than a peace treaty - it says "we will return to peace", which suggests a return to the status we were at before, which was that a team could show up with a galley and 2 axes and then invade.
You can also argue that a peace treaty is implied, of course. The point is that it's certainly ambiguous - and I think it's hard to say that it's not, when we accepted cease fire - we could have said "no, we said peace treaty!!" - but we didn't.
From this, you can argue that a cease fire is closer to what we agreed to than a peace treaty - it says "we will return to peace", which suggests a return to the status we were at before, which was that a team could show up with a galley and 2 axes and then invade.
You can also argue that a peace treaty is implied, of course. The point is that it's certainly ambiguous - and I think it's hard to say that it's not, when we accepted cease fire - we could have said "no, we said peace treaty!!" - but we didn't.
General_W
Councilor & Merlot Noble
Nice! 
Krill
Deity
He has 2 XP, so he needs an upgrade. I'd suggest woodsman, and use him to scout the south east when we have sufficent defensive coverage (which will be in 2 turns when he's healed anyway).
Ronnie1
Deity
I agree!.......
Dreylin
Cousin Itt!
Thirded
Krill
Deity
Zuur - SW, protect AT the worker.
Barentz - NW, that's 1 of 3 xp we need...
Barentz - NW, that's 1 of 3 xp we need...
Love
Deity
just a minor thing but in Inner sanctum we have a grassland hill worked, we should move that to the plain hill while we're building the settler. That should give us one gold...
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