Two of the most prominent exploits or captured game of professional Nazi hunters are Samuel Kunz & John Demjanjuk. Both cases involve shrivelled old men in their 80s who simply served as guards in the concentration camps. As stated in an article in the MSN news website:
"While Mr Kunz ranked fairly low in the Nazi hierarchy, he is among the top most wanted due to the large number of Jews he is accused of having been involved in killing - which the prosecutor's office in Dortmund puts at 430,000."
http://news.uk.msn.com/world/articles.aspx?cp-documentid=154243558
In the case of Dejanjuk, who now lives in the US, although he has been stripped of his US citizenship he is wanted now in Germany, but his frail health is fustrating the professional Nazi hunters. They simply are not able to move in for the kill:
But there is a potential hitch: Is the 88-year-old physically capable of standing trial? Demjanjuk's son, John Demjanjuk Jr., has said that his father is "very frail." His father reportedly suffers from a "blood and bone marrow disorder," which forces him to go to the hospital several times a month for regular blood transfusions. During the last year, his son adds, Demjanjuk's condition has worsened so much that he fears his father couldn't make it through a trial.
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,611819,00.html
Now I personally donot see any difference between the criminal culpability of some low level Nazi guard in a concentration camp & the culpability of the American soldiers who carried out the massacre in Fallujah(under orders) or those who carried out torture in Guantanamo Bay (also under orders) or for that matter the Nato pilots currently carrying out genocide in the Libyan town of Sirte. Why persecute these old men & let their American or Nato counterparts go free? In the Western mind there is this strange ahistorical notion that the horrors of Nazi Germany is something peculiarly German, & not typical of Western Society or Culture. Westerners may even point out to the crimes carried out by Colonial Germany in the 19th century against the Herero in Namibia as a precursor to the Jewish holocaust.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44778704/ns/world_news-africa/t/germanys-return-namibian-skulls-stokes-anger/
However, history tells a different story. The ordinary people of Germany after world war 2 have had to bear the crushing burden of collective guilt associated with the Jewish holocaust. This horror has been attributed to the "character of the German people", when in fact it was the shared responsibilty of the German political & intellectual elite. Among the persons who would be the quickest to point out the holocaust as a phenomenon not altogether Western (or as something not encompassing values associated with the broader Western world) but someting peculiarly German, would be the Anglo-Americans. Even up to today the Americans boast about of never having been imperialist, inspite of the trail of Mass graves left in Latin America as a result of their historical intervention, especially during the era of " communist threat". The British are even worse; not only do they admit to being Imperialists, but they openly boast that it is the best thing that ever happened to human history. Every year during Emancipatiopn, black people are subjected to the ironic & almost amusing horror of watching white English men boast about ending slavery in the West Indies, an institution which they were responsible for creating in the first place. This racist psycopathy is best exemplified in writers like Nial Fergusson, a racist pseudo scientist and intellectual ( who would be at home in Hitler's Germany) openly promoting uniquely British & moronic concepts such as the advantages of British colonialism. He also wrote a book called the West & the Rest, laying out for readers in the 21st century why the Western race is the Truly " Master Race" ( my words not his).
But this ofcourse is all nonsense. A study of Nazi history shows well enough that the Hitler Project was not simply a singular biproduct of the character of the people of Deutscheland. In his book " George Bush, the Unauthorised Biography" William Tarpley goes through great pains to point out the role played by Aglo-American financial institutions headed by Prescott Bush , the father of George bush Sr. in establishing Adolf Hitler as a political force. In doing so he points out the business relationship between the main German banker of the Nazi enterprise Fitz Thyssen and his American Wall Street business partners mostly a family Coalition through marriage made up of the Harrimans and the Bush family represented by Prescott Bush the father of George Bush Sr:
http://tarpley.net/online-books/george-bush-the-unauthorized-biography/chapter-2-the-hitler-project/
"Fritz Thyssen and his business partners are universally recognized as the most important German financiers of Adolf Hitler’s takeover of Germany. At the time of the order seizing the Thyssen family’s Union Banking Corp., Mr. Fritz Thyssen had already published his famous book, I Paid Hitler,@s5 admitting that he had financed Adolf Hitler and the Nazi movement since October 1923. Thyssen’s role as the leading early backer of Hitler’s grab for power in Germany had been noted by U.S. diplomats in Berlin in 1932.@s6 The order seizing the Bush-Thyssen bank was curiously quiet and modest about the identity of the perpetrators who had been nailed.
But two weeks before the official order, government investigators had reported secretly that “ W. Averell Harriman was in Europe sometime prior to 1924 and at that time became acquainted with Fritz Thyssen, the German industrialist. ” Harriman and Thyssen agreed to set up a bank for Thyssen in New York. “ [C]ertain of [Harriman's] associates would serve as directors…. ” Thyssen agent “ H. J. Kouwenhoven … came to the United States … prior to 1924 for conferences with the Harriman Company in this connection…. ”@s7
When exactly was “ Harriman in Europe sometime prior to 1924 ”? In fact, he was in Berlin in 1922 to set up the Berlin branch of W.A. Harriman & Co. under George Walker’s presidency.
The Union Banking Corporation was established formally in 1924, as a unit in the Manhattan offices of W.A. Harriman & Co., interlocking with the Thyssen-owned Bank voor Handel en Scheepvaart (BHS) in the Netherlands. The investigators concluded that “ the Union Banking Corporation has since its inception handled funds chiefly supplied to it through the Dutch bank by the Thyssen interests for American investment. ”
Thus by personal agreement between Averell Harriman and Fritz Thyssen in 1922, W.A. Harriman & Co. (alias Union Banking Corporation) would be transferring funds back and forth between New York and the “ Thyssen interests ” in Germany. By putting up about $400,000, the Harriman organization would be joint owner and manager of Thyssen’s banking operations outside of Germany.
How important was the Nazi enterprise for which President Bush’s father was the New York banker?
The 1942 U.S. government investigative report said that Bush’s Nazi-front bank was an interlocking concern with the Vereinigte Stahlwerke (United Steel Works Corporation or German Steel Trust) led by Fritz Thyssen and his two brothers. After the war, Congressional investigators probed the Thyssen interests, Union Banking Corp. and related Nazi units. The investigation showed that the Vereinigte Stahlwerke had produced the following approximate proportions of total German national output:
50.8% of Nazi Germany’s pig iron
41.4% of Nazi Germany’s universal plate
36.0% of Nazi Germany’s heavy plate
38.5% of Nazi Germany’s galvanized sheet
45.5% of Nazi Germany’s pipes and tubes
22.1% of Nazi Germany’s wire
35.0% of Nazi Germany’s explosives.@s8
Prescott Bush became vice president of W.A. Harriman & Co. in 1926. That same year, a friend of Harriman and Bush set up a giant new organization for their client Fritz Thyssen, prime sponsor of politician Adolf Hitler. The new German Steel Trust, Germany’s largest industrial corporation, was organized in 1926 by Wall Street banker Clarence Dillon. Dillon was the old comrade of Prescott Bush’s father Sam Bush from the “ Merchants of Death ” bureau in World War I.
In return for putting up $70 million to create his organization, majority owner Thyssen gave the Dillon Read company two or more representatives on the board of the new Steel Trust.@s9."
But more damning than this is support give to the Nazi party's army of personal guards called Brown Shirts:
"Certain actions taken directly by the Harriman-Bush shipping line in 1932 must be ranked among the gravest acts of treason in this century.
The U.S. embassy in Berlin reported back to Washington that the “ costly election campaigns ” and “ the cost of maintaining a private army of 300,000 to 400,000 men ” had raised questions as to the Nazis’ financial backers. The constitutional government of the German republic moved to defend national freedom by ordering the Nazi Party private armies disbanded. The U.S. embassy reported that the Hamburg-Amerika Line was purchasing and distributing propaganda attacks against the German government, for attempting this last-minute crackdown on Hitler’s forces.@s2@s7
Thousands of German opponents of Hitlerism were shot or intimidated by privately armed Nazi Brown Shirts. In this connection we note that the original “ Merchant of Death, ” Samuel Pryor, was a founding director of both the Union Banking Corp. and the American Ship and Commerce Corp. Since Mr. Pryor was executive committee chairman of Remington Arms and a central figure in the world’s private arms traffic, his use to the Hitler project was enhanced as the Bush family’s partner in Nazi Party banking and trans-Atlantic shipping.
The U.S. Senate arms-traffic investigators probed Remington after it was joined in a cartel agreement on explosives to the Nazi firm I.G. Farben. Looking at the period leading up to Hitler’s seizure of power, the Senators found that “ German political associations, like the Nazi and others, are nearly all armed with American … guns…. Arms of all kinds coming from America are transshipped in the Scheldt to river barges before the vessels arrive in Antwerp. They then can be carried through Holland without police inspection or interference. The Hitlerists and Communists are presumed to get arms in this manner. The principal arms coming from America are Thompson submachine guns and revolvers. The number is great. ”@s2@s8"
So its quite clear that Anglo Americans bear just as much if not even more responsibility than the German Elite for the horror & tragedy which was Nazi Germany. The German people should be allowed to free themselves of this artificially placed guilt. & by that i mean even those Germans who served in the German military "under orders". Even Nazi concentration camps if there is no direct evidence linking them to crimes. As to why the " professional Nazi hunters, which are mostly Jewish or Zionist folks, are so quiet about the role of Wallstreet in the Rise of Adolf Hitler, Tarpley has an idea.:
Max Warburg ( Jewish executive of a Shipping concern owned by the American-Nazi business coalition) replied on March 27, 1933, assuring his American sponsors that the Hitler government was good for Germany: “ For the last few years business was considerably better than we had anticipated, but a reaction is making itself felt for some months. We are actually suffering also under the very active propaganda against Germany, caused by some unpleasant circumstances. These occurrences were the natural consequence of the very excited election campaign, but were extraordinarily exaggerated in the foreign press. The Government is firmly resolved to maintain public peace and order in Germany, and I feel perfectly convinced in this respect that there is no cause for any alarm whatsoever. ”@s3@s0
This seal of approval for Hitler, coming from a famous Jew, was just what Harriman and Bush required, for they anticipated rather serious “ alarm ” inside the U.S.A. against their Nazi operations.
On March 29, 1933, two days after Max’s letter to Harriman, Max’s son, Erich Warburg, sent a cable to his cousin Frederick M. Warburg, a director of the Harriman railroad system. He asked Frederick to “ use all your influence ” to stop all anti-Nazi activity in America, including “ atrocity news and unfriendly propaganda in foreign press, mass meetings, etc. ” Frederick cabled back to Erich: “ No responsible groups here [are] urging [a] boycott [of] German goods[,] merely excited individuals. ” Two days after that, On March 31, 1933, the American-Jewish Committee, controlled by the Warburgs, and the B’nai B’rith, heavily influenced by the Sulzbergers (New York Times), issued a formal, official joint statement of the two organizations, counseling “ that no American boycott against Germany be encouraged, ” and advising “ that no further mass meetings be held or similar forms of agitation be employed. ”@s3@s1
The American Jewish Committee and the B’nai B’rith (mother of the “ Anti-Defamation League ”
continued with this hardline, no-attack-on-Hitler stance all through the 1930s, blunting the fight mounted by many Jews and other anti-fascists.
Thus the decisive interchange reproduced above, taking place entirely within the orbit of the Harriman/Bush firm, may explain something of the relationship of George Bush to American Jewish and Zionist leaders. Some of them, in close cooperation with his family, played an ugly part in the drama of Naziism. Is this why “ professional Nazi-hunters ” have never discovered how the Bush family made its money?"
Simply disgusting!
"While Mr Kunz ranked fairly low in the Nazi hierarchy, he is among the top most wanted due to the large number of Jews he is accused of having been involved in killing - which the prosecutor's office in Dortmund puts at 430,000."
http://news.uk.msn.com/world/articles.aspx?cp-documentid=154243558
In the case of Dejanjuk, who now lives in the US, although he has been stripped of his US citizenship he is wanted now in Germany, but his frail health is fustrating the professional Nazi hunters. They simply are not able to move in for the kill:
But there is a potential hitch: Is the 88-year-old physically capable of standing trial? Demjanjuk's son, John Demjanjuk Jr., has said that his father is "very frail." His father reportedly suffers from a "blood and bone marrow disorder," which forces him to go to the hospital several times a month for regular blood transfusions. During the last year, his son adds, Demjanjuk's condition has worsened so much that he fears his father couldn't make it through a trial.
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,611819,00.html
Now I personally donot see any difference between the criminal culpability of some low level Nazi guard in a concentration camp & the culpability of the American soldiers who carried out the massacre in Fallujah(under orders) or those who carried out torture in Guantanamo Bay (also under orders) or for that matter the Nato pilots currently carrying out genocide in the Libyan town of Sirte. Why persecute these old men & let their American or Nato counterparts go free? In the Western mind there is this strange ahistorical notion that the horrors of Nazi Germany is something peculiarly German, & not typical of Western Society or Culture. Westerners may even point out to the crimes carried out by Colonial Germany in the 19th century against the Herero in Namibia as a precursor to the Jewish holocaust.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44778704/ns/world_news-africa/t/germanys-return-namibian-skulls-stokes-anger/
However, history tells a different story. The ordinary people of Germany after world war 2 have had to bear the crushing burden of collective guilt associated with the Jewish holocaust. This horror has been attributed to the "character of the German people", when in fact it was the shared responsibilty of the German political & intellectual elite. Among the persons who would be the quickest to point out the holocaust as a phenomenon not altogether Western (or as something not encompassing values associated with the broader Western world) but someting peculiarly German, would be the Anglo-Americans. Even up to today the Americans boast about of never having been imperialist, inspite of the trail of Mass graves left in Latin America as a result of their historical intervention, especially during the era of " communist threat". The British are even worse; not only do they admit to being Imperialists, but they openly boast that it is the best thing that ever happened to human history. Every year during Emancipatiopn, black people are subjected to the ironic & almost amusing horror of watching white English men boast about ending slavery in the West Indies, an institution which they were responsible for creating in the first place. This racist psycopathy is best exemplified in writers like Nial Fergusson, a racist pseudo scientist and intellectual ( who would be at home in Hitler's Germany) openly promoting uniquely British & moronic concepts such as the advantages of British colonialism. He also wrote a book called the West & the Rest, laying out for readers in the 21st century why the Western race is the Truly " Master Race" ( my words not his).
But this ofcourse is all nonsense. A study of Nazi history shows well enough that the Hitler Project was not simply a singular biproduct of the character of the people of Deutscheland. In his book " George Bush, the Unauthorised Biography" William Tarpley goes through great pains to point out the role played by Aglo-American financial institutions headed by Prescott Bush , the father of George bush Sr. in establishing Adolf Hitler as a political force. In doing so he points out the business relationship between the main German banker of the Nazi enterprise Fitz Thyssen and his American Wall Street business partners mostly a family Coalition through marriage made up of the Harrimans and the Bush family represented by Prescott Bush the father of George Bush Sr:
http://tarpley.net/online-books/george-bush-the-unauthorized-biography/chapter-2-the-hitler-project/
"Fritz Thyssen and his business partners are universally recognized as the most important German financiers of Adolf Hitler’s takeover of Germany. At the time of the order seizing the Thyssen family’s Union Banking Corp., Mr. Fritz Thyssen had already published his famous book, I Paid Hitler,@s5 admitting that he had financed Adolf Hitler and the Nazi movement since October 1923. Thyssen’s role as the leading early backer of Hitler’s grab for power in Germany had been noted by U.S. diplomats in Berlin in 1932.@s6 The order seizing the Bush-Thyssen bank was curiously quiet and modest about the identity of the perpetrators who had been nailed.
But two weeks before the official order, government investigators had reported secretly that “ W. Averell Harriman was in Europe sometime prior to 1924 and at that time became acquainted with Fritz Thyssen, the German industrialist. ” Harriman and Thyssen agreed to set up a bank for Thyssen in New York. “ [C]ertain of [Harriman's] associates would serve as directors…. ” Thyssen agent “ H. J. Kouwenhoven … came to the United States … prior to 1924 for conferences with the Harriman Company in this connection…. ”@s7
When exactly was “ Harriman in Europe sometime prior to 1924 ”? In fact, he was in Berlin in 1922 to set up the Berlin branch of W.A. Harriman & Co. under George Walker’s presidency.
The Union Banking Corporation was established formally in 1924, as a unit in the Manhattan offices of W.A. Harriman & Co., interlocking with the Thyssen-owned Bank voor Handel en Scheepvaart (BHS) in the Netherlands. The investigators concluded that “ the Union Banking Corporation has since its inception handled funds chiefly supplied to it through the Dutch bank by the Thyssen interests for American investment. ”
Thus by personal agreement between Averell Harriman and Fritz Thyssen in 1922, W.A. Harriman & Co. (alias Union Banking Corporation) would be transferring funds back and forth between New York and the “ Thyssen interests ” in Germany. By putting up about $400,000, the Harriman organization would be joint owner and manager of Thyssen’s banking operations outside of Germany.
How important was the Nazi enterprise for which President Bush’s father was the New York banker?
The 1942 U.S. government investigative report said that Bush’s Nazi-front bank was an interlocking concern with the Vereinigte Stahlwerke (United Steel Works Corporation or German Steel Trust) led by Fritz Thyssen and his two brothers. After the war, Congressional investigators probed the Thyssen interests, Union Banking Corp. and related Nazi units. The investigation showed that the Vereinigte Stahlwerke had produced the following approximate proportions of total German national output:
50.8% of Nazi Germany’s pig iron
41.4% of Nazi Germany’s universal plate
36.0% of Nazi Germany’s heavy plate
38.5% of Nazi Germany’s galvanized sheet
45.5% of Nazi Germany’s pipes and tubes
22.1% of Nazi Germany’s wire
35.0% of Nazi Germany’s explosives.@s8
Prescott Bush became vice president of W.A. Harriman & Co. in 1926. That same year, a friend of Harriman and Bush set up a giant new organization for their client Fritz Thyssen, prime sponsor of politician Adolf Hitler. The new German Steel Trust, Germany’s largest industrial corporation, was organized in 1926 by Wall Street banker Clarence Dillon. Dillon was the old comrade of Prescott Bush’s father Sam Bush from the “ Merchants of Death ” bureau in World War I.
In return for putting up $70 million to create his organization, majority owner Thyssen gave the Dillon Read company two or more representatives on the board of the new Steel Trust.@s9."
But more damning than this is support give to the Nazi party's army of personal guards called Brown Shirts:
"Certain actions taken directly by the Harriman-Bush shipping line in 1932 must be ranked among the gravest acts of treason in this century.
The U.S. embassy in Berlin reported back to Washington that the “ costly election campaigns ” and “ the cost of maintaining a private army of 300,000 to 400,000 men ” had raised questions as to the Nazis’ financial backers. The constitutional government of the German republic moved to defend national freedom by ordering the Nazi Party private armies disbanded. The U.S. embassy reported that the Hamburg-Amerika Line was purchasing and distributing propaganda attacks against the German government, for attempting this last-minute crackdown on Hitler’s forces.@s2@s7
Thousands of German opponents of Hitlerism were shot or intimidated by privately armed Nazi Brown Shirts. In this connection we note that the original “ Merchant of Death, ” Samuel Pryor, was a founding director of both the Union Banking Corp. and the American Ship and Commerce Corp. Since Mr. Pryor was executive committee chairman of Remington Arms and a central figure in the world’s private arms traffic, his use to the Hitler project was enhanced as the Bush family’s partner in Nazi Party banking and trans-Atlantic shipping.
The U.S. Senate arms-traffic investigators probed Remington after it was joined in a cartel agreement on explosives to the Nazi firm I.G. Farben. Looking at the period leading up to Hitler’s seizure of power, the Senators found that “ German political associations, like the Nazi and others, are nearly all armed with American … guns…. Arms of all kinds coming from America are transshipped in the Scheldt to river barges before the vessels arrive in Antwerp. They then can be carried through Holland without police inspection or interference. The Hitlerists and Communists are presumed to get arms in this manner. The principal arms coming from America are Thompson submachine guns and revolvers. The number is great. ”@s2@s8"
So its quite clear that Anglo Americans bear just as much if not even more responsibility than the German Elite for the horror & tragedy which was Nazi Germany. The German people should be allowed to free themselves of this artificially placed guilt. & by that i mean even those Germans who served in the German military "under orders". Even Nazi concentration camps if there is no direct evidence linking them to crimes. As to why the " professional Nazi hunters, which are mostly Jewish or Zionist folks, are so quiet about the role of Wallstreet in the Rise of Adolf Hitler, Tarpley has an idea.:
Max Warburg ( Jewish executive of a Shipping concern owned by the American-Nazi business coalition) replied on March 27, 1933, assuring his American sponsors that the Hitler government was good for Germany: “ For the last few years business was considerably better than we had anticipated, but a reaction is making itself felt for some months. We are actually suffering also under the very active propaganda against Germany, caused by some unpleasant circumstances. These occurrences were the natural consequence of the very excited election campaign, but were extraordinarily exaggerated in the foreign press. The Government is firmly resolved to maintain public peace and order in Germany, and I feel perfectly convinced in this respect that there is no cause for any alarm whatsoever. ”@s3@s0
This seal of approval for Hitler, coming from a famous Jew, was just what Harriman and Bush required, for they anticipated rather serious “ alarm ” inside the U.S.A. against their Nazi operations.
On March 29, 1933, two days after Max’s letter to Harriman, Max’s son, Erich Warburg, sent a cable to his cousin Frederick M. Warburg, a director of the Harriman railroad system. He asked Frederick to “ use all your influence ” to stop all anti-Nazi activity in America, including “ atrocity news and unfriendly propaganda in foreign press, mass meetings, etc. ” Frederick cabled back to Erich: “ No responsible groups here [are] urging [a] boycott [of] German goods[,] merely excited individuals. ” Two days after that, On March 31, 1933, the American-Jewish Committee, controlled by the Warburgs, and the B’nai B’rith, heavily influenced by the Sulzbergers (New York Times), issued a formal, official joint statement of the two organizations, counseling “ that no American boycott against Germany be encouraged, ” and advising “ that no further mass meetings be held or similar forms of agitation be employed. ”@s3@s1
The American Jewish Committee and the B’nai B’rith (mother of the “ Anti-Defamation League ”
continued with this hardline, no-attack-on-Hitler stance all through the 1930s, blunting the fight mounted by many Jews and other anti-fascists.Thus the decisive interchange reproduced above, taking place entirely within the orbit of the Harriman/Bush firm, may explain something of the relationship of George Bush to American Jewish and Zionist leaders. Some of them, in close cooperation with his family, played an ugly part in the drama of Naziism. Is this why “ professional Nazi-hunters ” have never discovered how the Bush family made its money?"
Simply disgusting!
Hahaha! Starts off as a nice satire mghani, but kinda becomes too obvious when you get to the part about NATO committing genocide in Sirte. No-one's brain-dead enough to actually believe stuff like that!
