Give me a job!!!

[Archbob]

Be my slave for 5 cents an hour.

 

[Evil Beejeebers]

See, Beejeebers? That's how you REALLY make a job listing.

If you don't as you don't get.

'Well-spoken', when I was growing up, was always shorthand for 'I can't believe that a nice boy like him could have done something like that!' Have you tried the Job Centre? Otherwise, your local regiments are scrambling for recruits as of a few days ago.

I am a builder/bulber not a fighter.

 

[Flying Pig]

Well, jokes aside, have you tried actually looking for a job in person? In general, you'll get the best jobs if you outright ask the employer, the second-best jobs if you go to the Job Centre (because he'll pass off his jobs that he can't fill to them), and the worst of all if you look around on the internet, where he'll only go if he's really, really desperate for someone to clean his toilets.

Do you have qualifications? Education? Skills? Hell, do you have any idea of where you'd like to be in ten years?

I vaguely remember Mise knows a fair bit about applying for jobs and the like; he might be able to help you a bit better, but don't quote me on that.

 

[Zelig]

Well, jokes aside, have you tried actually looking for a job in person? In general, you'll get the best jobs if you outright ask the employer, the second-best jobs if you go to the Job Centre (because he'll pass off his jobs that he can't fill to them), and the worst of all if you look around on the internet, where he'll only go if he's really, really desperate for someone to clean his toilets.

You'll get the best jobs if you ask the employer and you already know him, but otherwise it's largely a dead-end, you'll just get told to apply through his website. (Where the system will filter out your application and nobody will read it.)

 

[gangleri2001]

Zelig is right, but it's normal that someone the age of Flying Pig doesn't know how does everything work nowadays.

 

[Flying Pig]

Ah, you may be right. Back in the day, knocking on the door, dressed smartly, washed and shaved, and asking politely 'could you take on another man, sir?' normally got a positive answer, but I suppose that was a different era - and, of course, when I was getting my first jobs they weren't the sort that would have websites anyway; my first was as a general-purpose dogsbody with a building crew and my second - and my last civilian job - down a mine! Suppose different trades have different methods of entry.

I presume the 'ask the employer' still holds if he has 'hiring now - enquire within' on his door, however? I've seen a few places around town in the past few days with those signs up, and can't imagine you'd be told to clear off if you responded directly to one.

Where do you live? do they accept foreigners perfectly fluent in these places with signs? If so I'm moving to the UK immediately.

Funnily enough, they complain that there's too many perfectly fluent foreigners (in this case, old Gurkhas) around this neck of the woods - it was worse in Aldershot, mind, but so are most things.

"Application via Internet only" without giving you time to end the sentence and in a cold manner, without even looking you. I know it because I've tried a couple of times and the result has always been the same.

Can't say that sounds likely to attract the brightest and the best! If I was ever sent away like that, I'd have cleared off down the street and asked somewhere else!

 

[gangleri2001]

Where do you live? do they accept foreigners perfectly fluent in these places with signs? If so I'm moving to the UK immediately.

As for the way things work, yes, it was another era. Nowadays if you do so you get answered "Application via Internet only" without giving you time to end the sentence and in a cold manner, without even looking you. I know it because I've tried a couple of times and the result has always been the same.

 

[Zelig]

Ah, you may be right. Back in the day, knocking on the door, dressed smartly, washed and shaved, and asking politely 'could you take on another man, sir?' normally got a positive answer, but I suppose that was a different era - and, of course, when I was getting my first jobs they weren't the sort that would have websites anyway; my first was as a general-purpose dogsbody with a building crew and my second - and my last civilian job - down a mine! Suppose different trades have different methods of entry.

I presume the 'ask the employer' still holds if he has 'hiring now - enquire within' on his door, however? I've seen a few places around town in the past few days with those signs up, and can't imagine you'd be told to clear off if you responded directly to one.

Yeah, it depends where you're interested in applying - obviously showing up neatly dressed to a local business with a "now hiring" sign is going to have good results.

If you're applying to any larger organization with an actual HR department, it's tough to get around them and their computerized rejection systems.

Your best bet is really knowing someone on the inside of the company beforehand - competent companies for professional positions will at most skip the phone screening interview, but getting an in-person interview puts you way ahead of all the similarly qualified people who don't get interviews.