GK2- The Training Day Experiment

[Sir Bugsy]

Originally posted by shoguntaka
You sure about that?
It's 3W to the western city, and that's 1.5+1.5+1.5 = 4.5 (rounded down to 4). It's 2S and 1SE to the southern one, and that's 1.5+1.5+1 = 4.

I stand corrected - I must have been drinking some strong tea during lunch, either that or I had difficulty counting past 3.

 

[Sir Bugsy]

Originally posted by scoutsout
On research: Somebody refresh my memory... were we going to go on a tech trading binge with Mysticism one turn before Polytheism, or were we going to trade with Polytheism?

I think the tech priorities may shift depending on what we can trade for... if we can't trade for Map Making, that should be the one to go for next.

IIRC, you don't have Alphabet or Writing so Map Making will be difficult.

 

[Slicknick1136]

originally posted by sir bugsy
1) if you wanted to have RCP, you missed. The Western city is at 4.5 and the southern city is at 3.5. You round down in both cases, so you have a 3 and a 4.

Quick and n00bish question,what does RCP stand for?
And also when your saying the westernt city is at 4.5,and the
southern city is at 3.5,what exactly do those numbers represent?

originally posted by sir bugsy
IIRC, you don't have Alphabet or Writing so Map Making will be difficult.

What does IIRC mean?

Thanks in advance.....
-Nick-

 

[Sir Bugsy]

RCP = Ring City Placement There is a nice write up in the war academy HERE It is written by DaviddesJ, who invented the concept.

The numbers stand for how far a city is from the capitol. Tiles N,E,S, and W count 1.5. Tiles NE, SE, SW, and NW count 1.0. Then round down. The theory is that cities that are the same distance from the capitol have the same corruption level.

IIRC = If I recall correctly (something that I've been doing less of lately) A list of common acronyms can be found Here

 

[yoshi74]

RCP - Ring City Placement: Place your cities around your capitol at a equal distance to minimize corruption. The numbers are the distance where fields in the NW,NE,SW,SE direction are counted 1, while N,S,W,E are counted 1.5. There is a more detailed explanation one one of the pages in this thread.
Its a way to place cities. Another variant is to grab the best sites regardless of tile counting. RCP does not work anymore in Conquests, but is a strong concept in Civ3, PTW.

[edit] slighty to slow

 

[denyd]

IIRC - If I Recall Correctly

RCP is a city placement strategy that will give you lower corruption for your cities.

Check out this thread for more information

Link to thread

Wow, I went to find the thread link and I'm third in line with the answer

 

[Sir Bugsy]

Three of us were all over that one within one minute

 

[Slicknick1136]

wow,thanks guys...
i read the article on RCP and found it very helpful.You say it dosnt work in conquests anymore so thats a pity.anyway i have another question,I was reading posts from the beginning of this thread and it looked like everyone was going to have there own game and make there own decsions but now it looks like a normal SG with 10 turn passover type deal.Am i correct,if not someone please correct me.

Thanks...
-Nick-

 

[Sir Bugsy]

We just played the first ten turns individually and the we started a SG from there. Gengis and I wanted to give everyone the experience of founding a city, initial builds, science, etc.

Later in the game it will probably go down to five turns per player, to maximize the experience.

 

[Slicknick1136]

should i do that,or should i just wait for my turn to do my 10?I know basically what to do in the begining.

 

[scoutsout]

Originally posted by Slicknick1136
should i do that,or should i just wait for my turn to do my 10?I know basically what to do in the begining.

Well... from personal experience.... before reading Crackers' Improving your Opening Play Skills and Bamspeedy's Babylon's Diety Setlers I thought I knew what to "basically do in the beginning"... Please don't take any of this as "talking down to you" ... I really don't mean it that way at all... matter of fact... it might be a little early for you to read those articles just yet...

Friendly advice: Play the first 10 turns. Crank up a ... Warlord or Regent level game, Play 20 turns. Read Cracker... crank up a new game, play 20 turns. Then read Bamspeedy... crank up another game...play 20 turns.... then drink a beer.... and maybe you'll start to see than there's not much "basic" about the first 10 moves...

...and just when you think I'm being arrogant, and talkin' down to you... bear in mind... it took me a year (no kiddin') to begin to get the grasp of the power of the opening moves...

...and then, when you've done those things... maybe you'll undertstand why I wanted you in this game!

 

[Slicknick1136]

no offense man,I think it helps me learn and to become a better player.As for those articles you mentioned,I'm going to read those asap and will practice practice practice.I love civ3 so it wont be a problem to log some major hours in-game and strategy on-line.Thanks for your help....

-Nick-

 

[Zeppa]

Woo hoo, finaly got my Civ3 disc. Here's my first hour.

Patch the disc with the 1.35f, patchdownloaded last week.

Download this threads day #1

Figure out I can't get from city view to world view.

Look at manual, it sucks.

Reread the keyboard helps downloaded from Civ Fan

Crash a few times during the begining thingie.

Finally play a little of the game. Replay early moves several times because I am a newb. Try the "tutorial", it sucks. Get to learn the basic moves, kewl.

I'm going to shadow this game. Thanks a lot to the instuctors and the instructees who are active in this thread.

 

[ControlFreak]

The Good News: I just landed a job that should help my career (and my wallet).
The Bad News: I turned in my two week notice and may not have the opportunity to surf the forums from my new job. (ControlFreak disappears, part two. )
The Good News: I have a lot of time to goof off for the next two weeks. So I put together this Cross-Reference of the thread to date. I catagorized it a little bit.
GK@ You may want to EDIT your first post with the current roster and a link to this post.

If you feel some things should be in a different catagory, PM me and I'll change it.

The Turns Played
(Bullets indicate progression of play)

• [*]Starting Screen Shot
  [*]After Moving Worker (1st Move)
  [*]After Moving Scout (2nd Move)
  Shoguntaka's first turnset*
  Scoutsout's first turnset
  SolarKnight's first turnset
  Infoman's first turnset
  [*]The Chosen first turnset (Shoguntaka's)
  [*]Round 2 - SolarKnight 3450BC-3000BC
  Trainer Evaluation Round 2
  [*]Round 3 - Scoutsout 2950BC-2550BC
  Yoshi evaluates Round 3
  Trainer Evaluation Round 3
  [*]Round 4 - Shoguntaka 2500BC-2150BC
  Trainer Evaluation Round 4

Team Planning
(Thoughts, note, plans related to this game)

• Reading the Map (MapMakers Notes)
  On Moving the Settler
  Settler Factory (w/Pictures!)
  Start of City Planning Discussion (Read through the next few)
  Dot Map (MapMakers) (Scroll for the others above and below it.)
  Nearby AI (MapMakers Notes)
  Workers and Settler Factory
  [*]Closest working DotMap(Shogun's map includes the capital and next two cities settled.)
  City Planning
  Pro/Con List of 2nd City
  Initial Plan through Middle Ages
  Second and Third City Potentials

Basic Game Information
(Things that should be in the manual or are but missed by some players)

• Possible Results from Tribal Huts (Goody Huts)
  Importance of Your Initial Unit Move Order
  Game Mechanics
  Choke Points
  Benefits of Cities on Hills
  Whipping Citizens for Production (Trainer prefers not to)
  Scouting - "Confirm or Deny"
  Research and Trade
  Technology
  Minimum Science Gambit/Arguement against Spears
  Scouting in AI Territory
  Using Spears Effectively

Advanced Game Concepts
(The Finer Points of Beating Civ)

• Settler Factory with City On Bonus Grassland
  Fine Points of Size 7 Cities (T-Hawk)
  Polytheism Minimum Science Gambit
  Ring City Placement (RCP) Discussion
  Early Food in City Planning
  Evaluating Strength vs Fast Zulu Impi

Game Administration
(Trainers Rules,Exercises)

• Initial Approach
  Rules for this Succession Game (SG)
  Trainer Exercise (Quoted) and Answers

EDIT: Added link and bullet to Shogun's dotmap which is the closest to current city placement.

 

[Sir Bugsy]

That is a lot of work CF. It is greatly appreciated.

Good luck with the new job!

 

[Slicknick1136]

yea CF,thats really cool.whos turn is it now,i havent seen anyone really talk about the game in a while.

 

[scoutsout]

Originally posted by Sir Bugsy
shogun - just played
SolarKnight - Up
infoman - On deck (and MIA for a while )
Scout
SlickNick

Nick - Sir Bugs posted this roster after adding you to the game. Infoman hasn't posted anything in a while... and I'm starting to hope the guy is still alive and doing okay...

At the moment, it looks like SK is up, then Infoman if he shows, me, you, then back to Shogun (who just played). It looks like you'll be settling a few cities for us... assuming Infoman doesn't show up, they'll probably be important ones in the "land grab against Japan" thing. Since we've seen a few barbarians, you'll probably get a tiny bit of combat in as well.

 

[Slicknick1136]

Sounds great.I hope that guy shows up though,it makes the game more interesting,more people,more fun.It may include more waiting time before its your turn again but I don't mind.I just wanted to know because I learn alot when people are doing thier turns and everyone is discussing the game it-self.:grad:

 

[SolarKnight]

Im going to play my turns tonight or tomorrow, as i have another mountain of coursework to scale.

SolarKnight

 

[Slicknick1136]

will-do
i don't really remember a few pages back but im assuming u discussed with everyone what ur generaly going to do?or u guys discussed what needs to be done?