GOTM63 Spoiler

[Ali Ardavan]

+0010 Elephant kills Greek horseman.
+0020 Philosophy, University, Seafaring, Banking -> Persian (0). University -> German (3). Warrior disbanded.
+0030 Romans build Great Library. Rush bought Crusader kills Japanese catapult. Elephant kills Greek catapult.
+0040 Roman elephant kills my settler. Japanese chariot destroys size 1 Tlalmanalco. Its supported Crusader is also gone.
+0050 Michelangelo built. Astronomy -> Medicine. Domestic offshore Beads to science city establishes the first trade route for 168. Roman elephant killed.
+0060 Elephant kills Greek catapult and Settler.
+0070 Domestic Cloth to science city for 110. Ixtapaluca founded on Roman continent. Elephant kills Greek catapult. Met with Japanese and accepted their offer of peace. Greeks do not want to meet. Iron Working, University, Seafaring, Monarchy -> Roman (5) -> peace, map exchange.
+0080 Greek horseman killed in attack on my fortified Phalanx making it vet. Huexotla founded on Aryan continent near Japan.
+0100 Capital/science city is size 12.
+0110 Greek horseman killed in attack on my Phalanx fortified on hilltop. Medicine -> Theory of Gravity. Wine from science city to Persepolis for 560. Science city now has 3 routes.
+0120 Senate forces peace with Greeks. T2L3S5. Wheel, Mysticism -> German (3) -> map exchange. Domestic offshore Dye for 128. Eight barbarians from hut.
+0130 Barbarians kill my diplomat. Theory of Gravity -> Chemistry. Philosophy -> Greek. They scoff at Republic for Bridge building. Domestic offshore Salt, Silver for 156, 100.
+0140 Wheel -> Greek -> Bridge Building, map exchange. Bridge Building -> German (3).
+0150 Greek horseman sneak attacks and kills a caravan. First university built. Crusader kills Greek horseman and settler. Domestic Gems for 108. Hides to Berlin for 232. Philosophy -> Japanese (1) -> map exchange.
+0160 Chemistry -> Economics. Hides to Berlin for 200. Crusader kills Greek catapult and archer and becomes vet.
+0170 Beads to Athens for 44.
+0180 Tepexpan founded on Roman continent. Chemistry, Bridge Building -> Indian. With only 3 cities left in celebration it is time to take a break: T2L1S7.
+0190 Economics -> Engineering. Beads to Kyoto for 296.
+0200 Economics, Astronomy -> Indian. T4L1S5.
+0210 Copernicus built.
+0220 Engineering -> Sanitation. Engineering -> Indian, Perisan, German. Astronomy -> German. Crusader kills 2 Greek chariots. T3L1S6.
+0230 7 barbarian horrsemen from hut.
+0240 Barbarians kill my elephant. Japanese elephant sneak attacks and kills Phalanx fortified on hut. T4L1S5. Crusader kills Greek catapult and settler.
+0250 Sanitation -> Invention. Silk, Dye to Berlin for 324, 272. Crusader kills Japanese elephant. Salt to Japanese Osaka for 360. Sanitation -> Indian. Tepetlaoxtoc founded on the Roman continent. Chiconautla founded on the Aryan continent at the site of my only destroyed city. T2L3S5.
+0260 Invention -> Democracy. Widespread celebrations. Crusader kills Greek catapult and chariot. Crusader kills Japanese catapult. Roman -> map exchange.
+0270 Wine to Roman Ravenna for 42. Crusader kills Greek catapult. Chemistry -> Japanese -> peace.
+0280 Zitlaltepec founded near Japanese Osaka on hilltop. Domestic offshore Copper for 32. Japanese declare war when I ask them to remove their troops. Crusader kills Japanese catapult and becomes vet. Invention -> Indian, German.
+0290 Democracy -> Gunpowder. Democracy -> German. Invention -> Persian -> 50g. Coyotepec founded near Persia.
+0300 Crusader kills Japanese elephant. Crusader kills Greek catapult. Revolution started.
+0310 Japanese elephant killed in attack on my Phalanx fortified on hilltop making it vet. Democracy established. Crusader kills Japanese legion.
+0320 Leo built. Crusader kills Greek chariot. Democracy -> Indian. Hides to Berlin for 120. Domestic offshore Beads, Wine for 120, 90. Tequixquiac founded on a little island of size 4.
+0330 Gunpowder -> Explosives. Domestic offshore Cloth for 127. Musketeer kills Greek settler and becomes vet. Theory of Gravity -> Indian.
+0340 Crusader kills Greek chariot. Wine to Persian Susa for 205.
+0350 Explosives -> Navigation. Copper to Persian Susa for 184. Invention, Gunpowder -> Greek -> peace, Feudalism, map exchange. Tech bombed my ally Persians to get them to research something other than Feudalism.
+0360 King Richard built. Gunpowder, Feudalism -> Indian.
+0370 Romans steal Banking; I declare war. Navigation -> Metallurgy. Babol founded at the northern portion of homeland. Domestic offshore Silk, Spice for 141, 105. Musketeer kills Roman warrior and becomes vet. Crusader kills 2 Roman warriors plus a diplomat and becomes vet.
+0380 Romans kill my diplomat. Germans build Great Wall. Amol founded. Sanitation -> German. Explosives -> German, Persian, Indian.
+0390 Metallurgy -> Theology. Crusader kills Japanese elephant. No longer demanded Spice to Persepolis for 82.
+0400 Domestic Dye for 74. Metallurgy -> German, Indian, Persian. Economics -> German.
+0410 Theology -> Physics. Crusader from hut.
+0420 Navigation -> German, Indian. Domestic offshore Copper, Wool for 92, 118. Japanese settler killed. T4L3S3.
+0430 Roman elephant killed in attack on my musketeer in fort. T2L3S5. Map exchange with Germans. Domestic offshore Beads, Silk for 60, 81. Roman diplomat killed.
+0440 Physics -> Magnetism. Physics -> Indian, German. Domestic offshore Coal for 130. Cloth to Susa for 210. Roman elephant killed. Domestic offshore Silk from science city for 276.
+0450 Magnetism -> Steam Engine. Tultitlan founded on the southern Roman peninsula.
+0460 Barbarian legion killed in attack on musketeer fortified in Amol. First pollution appears near science city which has King Richard. Japanese offer peace and I accept. Magnetism -> Indian. Rush bought 37 shields to beat Romans to Newton.
+0470 Newton built. Romans abandon rather than switch to any number of wonders they could build: Magellan, Adam Smith, Sun Tzu, and Statue of Liberty. Steam Engine -> Electricity. Barbarian leader captured for 100g. Domestic Copper to science city for 86. Steam Engine -> Indian.
+0480 Roman diplomat killed. Beads to Greek Thermopylae for 156.
+0490 Electricity -> Atomic Theory. Ecatepec founded near Persepolis. Coatepec founded in southern Roman peninsula.
+0500 Roman elephant killed in attack on my engineer in fort. Germans make a delivery. Crusader killed in attack on Roman musketeer defending Cumae. Electricity -> Indian -> map exchange

Status at +0500
Population: 16.2M; Cities: 29; Trade routes: 38D15F; Government: Democracy
Finance. Treasury: 31; Cost per turn: 84; Income: 251; Tax rate: 20%
Science: Total advances: 46; Advance every 2 turns; Science rate: 50%
Production: 252MT; 1 polluted tiles
Wonders: Colossus, Pyramids, Hanging Gardens, Marco, Copernicus, King Richrad, Michelangelo, Leo, Newton.
Units: 22 Engineers (1 None), 23 Musketeers, 3 Crusaders (1 None), 5 Galleon, 1 Diplomat, 9 Caravans, 1 explorer.
Roman: 10 cities, 610g, 41 techs; War with me; Great Library
Japanese: 3 cities, 407g, 20 techs; War with Persians
German: 4 cities, 560g, 40 techs; Great Wall
Persian: 2 cities, 392g, 39 techs; Allied with me, war with Japanese
Greek: 4 cities, 566g, 22 techs;
Indian: 3 cities, 204g, 45 techs;

 

[Ali Ardavan]

I have played till 960 now. SETI and Hoover dam are built, Apollo will be in 990. Future Techs have already started. Launching before 1000 is obviously out of the question.

War with Romans is raging. They are down to a few cities and still active in stealing techs! Japanese are down to 1 city. They only ever built 3 and lost one to Romans and another to me! Persians never made more than 2. The others have 3-6 cities each.

 

[Ali Ardavan]

Status at +1000
Population: 67.91M; Cities: 70; Trade routes: 84D26F; Government: Democracy
Finance. Treasury: 36; Cost per turn: 552; Income: 919; Tax rate: 20%
Science: Total advances: 88+6FT; Advance every 1 turns; Science rate: 50%
Production: 1071MT; 0 polluted tiles
Wonders: Colossus, Pyramids, Hanging Gardens, Marco, Copernicus, King Richrad, Michelangelo, Bach, Magellan, Leo, Newton, Cure for Cancer, SETI, Hoover dam, Apollo, Great Library, Eiffel.
Units: 30 Engineers (1 None), 40 Rifleman, 5 Cavalry (1 None), 6 Armor, 5 Transport, 1 Diplomat, 3 Spy, 11 Freight, 1 Explorer.
Roman: 1 cities, 26g, 46 techs; War with me;
Japanese: 1 cities, 588g, 26 techs;
German: 7 cities, 557g, 52 techs; War with me & Persians; Great Wall, Darwin
Persian: 2 cities, 62g, 59 techs; Allied with me, war with Germans
Greek: 4 cities, 1200g, 28 techs;
Indian: 3 cities; no embassy

 

[Peaster]

"Production: 1071MT" Wow! You must have some big cities. I guess you can launch a pretty decent ship in 3-4 turns if you aren't too distracted by wars and scores and such.

 

[Tigui]

I won by spaceship in 1785.

 

[Tigui]

I'm sorry I had some problem to send some message. . It's 2 complete messages it refused to send. I log in. After I submitted the message they say that I'm not logged and it doesn't send it.

 

[Ali Ardavan]

"Production: 1071MT" Wow! You must have some big cities. I guess you can launch a pretty decent ship in 3-4 turns if you aren't too distracted by wars and scores and such.

The way I play I place most of my cities to have little if any overlap and develop them fully. I used to do that with all cities, but recently I have been trying to use some helper cities which do not get fully developed. In this game I had only one such city in the main part of the game. I obviously need improvement in that department!

With offshore platforms, factories, and Hoover dam things add up. But it takes a long time to get there.

I launched a full space ship in 1150. Earlier would have been possible but I would have had to sacrifice too many other things. Still, this is the earliest launch for me ever.

The war heated up near the end but my main preoccupation was, as you put it, score. I ended up destroying both Romans and Japanese. I also took Berlin and Athens.

 

[Tigui]

I will write more messages this time. Firstly, I finished it Saturday with a 5 years spaceship with 10,000 people. It's not my first gotm I also played the gotm 60 and the gotm61 and I didn't complte gotm 62. I switched to Monarchy and a little bit later in Republic in appoximatively 200 BC.

 

[Tigui]

I discovered gunpowder and Steam engine and I switched to Monarchy in approximatively 860 AD. I bribed many cities with ironclads and musketeers. In 1200, I had approximatively 35 cities and I switched to Republic and I had difficulty to make a 1 turn revolution. I began to concentrate more on economy and science. I didn't use luxuries especially because I had the Michelangelo's Chapel.

 

[Tigui]

My science rate was generally up to 80 %. I built many temples and libraries. I switched to Democracy in approximatively 1460 AD and it resolved all my corruption problems with my far cities. My science was generally up to 90% and I found a technology each 3-4 turns. I also built Universities and Highways.

 

[Tigui]

I finally built seti progam and discovered a technology each 1 or 2 turns with a science of 1500. In 1750, I began the spaceship and I discovered each spaceship technologies in 1760. I launched in 1780 and my population changed from 18 to 29 million people at the end with celebrations with 47 cities.

 

[starlifter]

I just picked a pseudo-random thread to see what a recent GOTM was like, and it is very nice to read how a game developed. In 5 minutes, you can sort of do a "high speed" replay by reading it. The mind fills in the "blanks" drawing from experience. If I were the program manager for Civ 2 & it were redone today, I'd require a "replay" function, complete with running units tallies, fast foward/rewind, etc. so people could watch it. But a good log is very nice. In the future, I hope to eventually read all GOTM threads.

 

[Ali Ardavan]

Nice game logs, Ali Ardavan.

Thank you. Praise is always delightful, from a master even more so.

If I were the program manager for Civ 2 & it were redone today, I'd require a "replay" function, complete with running units tallies, fast foward/rewind, etc. so people could watch it.

I could not agree more. One of my biggest disappointments going from Civ1 to Civ2 was the discontiuation of the quick-replay-at-the-end feature.

One of the things I have been thinking about recently is to develop some standards for a log and present them to the community. If there is enough interest may be we can start a thread on that in general discussions.

 

[starlifter]

One of the things I have been thinking about recently is to develop some standards for a log and present them to the community. If there is enough interest may be we can start a thread on that in general discussions.

That's a great idea! Maybe a standard Civ 2 notation, and format for readability, game turn number, periodic demographics/summary, units count, and key science mileposts (e.g., like Invention/Navigation, Sanitation, Corporation, Refrigeration, Flight, etc.).

Would you like to start the thread? I'll add to it when you do.

 

[Magic_gorter]

One of the things I have been thinking about recently is to develop some standards for a log and present them to the community. If there is enough interest may be we can start a thread on that in general discussions.

I agree. It's a great idea. This way we can even learn more of each others games.

 

[Ali Ardavan]

Great. I will start it by this weekend.