Goz11- 5CC-Deity

lurker's comment: In most of my games, I usually get a monopoly on Sanitation, I think its because the AI tries to research RP first.
 
We need 4 cities for every army we create, so Military Academy is useless for us. Well, it gives 1cp :lol: Switch that to a courthouse, it will be useful when we get over 12pop.

We must build more cannons and cavs, or one day we will stand there with our pants down. Artillery stuff is the only way to get the better of an aggressive AI.

I agree on research on Medicine -> Sanitation and at max possible. I can't wait to get those hospitals and then later factories and power plants.
 
I'm OK with the military academy switch. I had a vague hope that we could use it as a prebuild for TOE - though I may be a few turns ahead of myself. You could always switch that to heroic epic, and Bangalore to something else - that would minimize the losses.

As far as research I wanted to build up cash for upgrades if needed then go full out on research, buy medicine once we get the price down, then go all out for sanitation. The lone scientist was to keep it going while the cash builds up. I agree now is a good time to crank up the science.
 
Smart: We can't avoid paying out of the nose for saltpeter in 6-7 turns, but we can't afford to lose it at this stage.

Cannons and cavs, Delhi can build 3-turn cavs by using hills for 2 turns and then switch back to cow last turn. It will cause 1 food-loss for two turns and then back to full granary last turn. do that.

We'll need a dozen or two of cannons in the future, at least, so start building them too. Research will hurt as this happens, but we have no choice, we just need those units.

If we happen to get to Sanitation first, then we're in a good seat, otherwise it will be an uphill battle. And Persia is way too strong for my liking, as in so many other games before.

Somehow I feel Sumeria has to be our allies for a long time or our enemies. If we pick them as buddies, they will take the persian forces and probably lose. If we pick Persia as our friends, they will just take over Sumer and we're dead.

It's not on the table yet, but some discussions would help. Korea and Inca are just stage-players now, we would kick their butts anytime.
 
I think we should crush Persians, if we will ally them against somebody, Persians will "eat" them :p
But we must spend a lot of cash to buy MA's, or we will be dogpiled. :rolleyes:

We can't avoid paying out of the nose for saltpeter in 6-7 turns, but we can't afford to lose it at this stage.
We are paying 20 gpt for it, which is equal to 300-350 gold (AI values lump sums more then gpt). We can give it to Sumeria to save gpt for research.
 
I think we should crush Persians, if we will ally them against somebody, Persians will "eat" them

Exactly! And we get those ivory sources pretty easy when we go that way.

But we can't really do it right yet. All deals with X-man has to be off the table and we need to have something to offer, especially Sumeria, which will be our buffer.

You guys are getting the hang of 5CC I reckon. :)

You're up, Smart, so give us those cavs and cannons. And more if you can find it. ;
 
I actually thought we should have gone after Persia first. The monster is only going to get bigger. Is a war with Persia imminent right after our trade deals end? I definitely think it should be done soon so that Xerxes whole army can't use railroads to show up at our door all at once.

I think it important to have enough to buy all the AI in against Xerxes. If we do that the Sumerians might be able to hold out enough to gas each other out, where we can start taking Persian cities. Also this war would slow the tech pace considerably I would guess. Of course our deals for MA should all be on a per turn payment.

If Xerxes demands gold and we refuse are we breaking any per turn deals we had with him?

Mutual protection pacts will be a cheap way to get the others into the war once we have the right tech (nationalism?). If I use them, I sign the deal then declare war the same turn, then wait for the bad guy to invade to trigger all the MPPs.
 
I can play only tomorrow, sorry for delay...

If AI demands something, or you ask them to "leave or declare" reputation will not be ruined, because AI declare war, not you ;)
Sometimes it may be usefull, for example if you see that huge stack is moving to your territory. Offer all your gpt for techs and lump sums, and then ask AI to leave.
 
Smart said:
Yes, just 9 turns to wait :dance:
I will try to play today...

Don't you like this game? :crazyeye:

If you can't play, the obvious thing is to send it to next better player.

Which is Own.
 
Smart: If you want to drop out, just say so.

I'm not a p!ssant, just annoyed.

Chose now! It's 4 days since last save.
 
Own said:
I can play fast, but I can't write turnlogs fast, because my computer is slow switching from civ to word.
How about notepad?
Or how about another old PC on the side with Word on it? Surely there is an old Pentium 75 around somewhere with Word on it you can get.

I actually write the log on paper usually and then transfer it to electronic after the turn or the next day at lunch hour.
 
I have that problem too, Own. Makes for a mild case of induced dyslexia, ie: I skip words when writing, because my train of thoughts is already a sentence and a half later down the line.

A notepad is the easy and convenient way to go IMIO too. Make a template with turns and IBT's marked and it goes even faster.
 
Notepad works :) , but I can't transport the text without posting the notepad file. Copy/paste doesn't work, and neither does dragging. I've stopped at turn two, because Persia is becoming a monster, and we need to decide whether or not to build up and attack with other nations help.
 

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