Sir Bugsy
Civ.D.
Goz well played. DO NOT invade Scandanavia, that will set off the MPP. We can still do this, gents. Prep for an Ottoman war as soon as we make peace with the Vikings. Granted that could be one turn or 50 turns. 
Goz8 - Silence is Golden
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grahamiam
In debt to Mr. Geisel
i will not be able to play till Monday so I would appreciate a swap 
grahamiam
In debt to Mr. Geisel
well, looks like no-one took me up on the swap request. alrighty then, i'll get to it tonight.
ThERat
Deity
I wanted to leave it for Bugs, but maybe he was watching football 
grahamiam
In debt to Mr. Geisel
Preflight check: wow, this looks like a real ballbuster this is the 1st SG Ive been in that went this late and the capitol was less than size 7. something tells me this wont be pretty.
Go thru all cities very carefully. I lost my internet connection during this so I cant read gozpels post but, from what I see, I conclude that MP's are playing havok.
Plant a spy in the Vikings. Their army consists of 34 tows, 18 mechs, 3 tanks, 5 infantry, 1 marine, 1cav, 1 marine, 1cav. I also notice that they are Democratic? Too bad, I would attempt some propaganda on them if they were something else (or if we had 10000g)
IBT: Ottomans and Vikings sign MPP. They also sign MA vs us They also join up against Babylon
Otto troops kill 3 MPs in Sweet Salmon and it riots
Eubar riots as we are seen as the aggressors vs Ottomans Scroll thru to make sure theres no more of this nonsense.
Molde market -> bank
T1: 1630AD Notice a Viking leader near Akshak, with no protection
Bombard the Ottoman border near Dabrum and Anshan. Also, redline the Viking ToW stack near Sweet Salmon.
Shuffle some MPs around in the N.
I see that the Vikings are in Anarchy .
Move some workers towards the core in anticipation of Iron.
IBT: we get hit by about 8 Ottoman cruise missiles and 5 or 6 bombers, plus 1 or 2 Viking bombers. Brutal. We also lose an infantry, an AC army, and a stack of arty.
T2: 1635AD Stack of workers that was optimistically sent back to RR, now is running towards the rubber so we ensure a continuous supply.
For giggles, I kill the Viking leader with an EW.
IBT: Ottomans use arty and bombers on us. Capture Tutub as I didnt see the Sip in range
T3: 1640AD Elite LB kills Sip in Tutub and we retake the town (4/5) + 245g If I did that on purpose, Id say it was an exploit.
IBT: Vikings request an Audience. They offer peace and I squeeze them for another 100g. This kills our rep due to blown MA vs Vikings but this is too much to handle atm.
Ur stock exchange -> market
T4: 1645AD Huge stack outside of Kutulla; bombard the piss out of it. Also, kill a nearby redlined Sip with an elite LB (2/5)
I bombard an Ottoman unit in their own land, triggering the Vikings to declare war on us again
IBT: Russians and Ottomans sign MPP
Babylon comes calling, want to sell us wines for gems and 31gpt. Instead, I sell him coal and oil for wines + 18gpt
I have 2 riots even though there are more happy people than sad people (in Kutha and Apisala). Sometimes, I just dont get it.
T5: 1650AD Well, now Ive made a complete mess of this bombard an Ottoman infantry near Konya and the Russians declare on us. Looks like we got about 140gpt back though.
Elite horseman kills redlined Sip.
Plant a spy in Moscow. We should be able to try another steal in 2T.
We desperately need that iron, but I cannot figure out how to get it and my 1st attempt was a complete failure.
This is all I have time for tonight and I want to keep this moving. Good luck bugs!
this is the 1st SG Ive been in that went this late and the capitol was less than size 7. something tells me this wont be pretty.Go thru all cities very carefully. I lost my internet connection during this so I cant read gozpels post but, from what I see, I conclude that MP's are playing havok.
Plant a spy in the Vikings. Their army consists of 34 tows, 18 mechs, 3 tanks, 5 infantry, 1 marine, 1cav, 1 marine, 1cav. I also notice that they are Democratic? Too bad, I would attempt some propaganda on them if they were something else (or if we had 10000g)
IBT: Ottomans and Vikings sign MPP. They also sign MA vs us They also join up against Babylon
Otto troops kill 3 MPs in Sweet Salmon and it riots
Eubar riots as we are seen as the aggressors vs Ottomans
Scroll thru to make sure theres no more of this nonsense.Molde market -> bank
T1: 1630AD Notice a Viking leader near Akshak, with no protection
Bombard the Ottoman border near Dabrum and Anshan. Also, redline the Viking ToW stack near Sweet Salmon.
Shuffle some MPs around in the N.
I see that the Vikings are in Anarchy
.Move some workers towards the core in anticipation of Iron.
IBT: we get hit by about 8 Ottoman cruise missiles and 5 or 6 bombers, plus 1 or 2 Viking bombers. Brutal. We also lose an infantry, an AC army, and a stack of arty.
T2: 1635AD Stack of workers that was optimistically sent back to RR, now is running towards the rubber so we ensure a continuous supply.
For giggles, I kill the Viking leader with an EW.
IBT: Ottomans use arty and bombers on us. Capture Tutub as I didnt see the Sip in range
T3: 1640AD Elite LB kills Sip in Tutub and we retake the town (4/5) + 245g
If I did that on purpose, Id say it was an exploit.IBT: Vikings request an Audience. They offer peace and I squeeze them for another 100g. This kills our rep due to blown MA vs Vikings but this is too much to handle atm.
Ur stock exchange -> market
T4: 1645AD Huge stack outside of Kutulla; bombard the piss out of it. Also, kill a nearby redlined Sip with an elite LB (2/5)
I bombard an Ottoman unit in their own land, triggering the Vikings to declare war on us again
IBT: Russians and Ottomans sign MPP
Babylon comes calling, want to sell us wines for gems and 31gpt. Instead, I sell him coal and oil for wines + 18gpt
I have 2 riots even though there are more happy people than sad people (in Kutha and Apisala). Sometimes, I just dont get it.
T5: 1650AD Well, now Ive made a complete mess of this
bombard an Ottoman infantry near Konya and the Russians declare on us. Looks like we got about 140gpt back though.Elite horseman kills redlined Sip.
Plant a spy in Moscow. We should be able to try another steal in 2T.
We desperately need that iron, but I cannot figure out how to get it and my 1st attempt was a complete failure.
This is all I have time for tonight and I want to keep this moving. Good luck bugs!
grahamiam
In debt to Mr. Geisel
Sir Bugsy
Civ.D.
I have it. This is a political nightmare, and we're not even speaking to anyone.
Sir Bugsy
Civ.D.
Sorry gents. I kept looking for a Goz8 file and G-man named it Goz6. I'll have it up tomorrow.
grahamiam
In debt to Mr. Geisel
sorry bugsSir Bugsy said:
Sir Bugsy
Civ.D.
Don't worry about it G-man. This aging brain was going a little nuts for a few days. I'm halfway through the ten turns. We're holding our own, thanks to the artillery. I think I'm going to set up an attempt to get iron.
Sir Bugsy
Civ.D.
OK team, I need a ruling. In the IBT after 1675, Osman popped up and I got a peace treaty and got combustion for some gpt in the deal.
Now here's where I need a ruling. They will pay us for a MPP.
Is it allowed by the variant?
My computer will be tied up with Civ running in the background until I can figure this out.
Now here's where I need a ruling. They will pay us for a MPP.
Is it allowed by the variant?
My computer will be tied up with Civ running in the background until I can figure this out.
Kaiser_Berger
Terran Emporer
I'm not sure if it's written anywhere, but I always thought that MPPs and alliances like that were usually off the table with defiant stuff. That said, I think we've strayed a good deal from true defiant rules in this game on more than one occasion, and this one is plenty crazy already, so why not some more? So essentially, I'm undecided, but lean towards thinking we can do it in this game. I think we've gone with the mantra of "once they open the window, anything goes" for most of the game, so change it now?
So essentially, I'm undecided, but lean towards thinking we can do it in this game. I think we've gone with the mantra of "once they open the window, anything goes" for most of the game, so change it now?
ThERat
Deity
I agree, if its initiated by the AI a MPP is fine as well
why you actually want a MPP with Ottoman? I thought we would like their iron?
why you actually want a MPP with Ottoman? I thought we would like their iron?
Sir Bugsy
Civ.D.
They have two irons
ThERat
Deity
get that other iron, if possible by all means. we need that to rail and then get finally further in this game
Sir Bugsy
Civ.D.
Pre-flight 1650 AD I thought we made peace with the Vikings? Let me guess, we set off that &*%#$ MPP. Recapture an artillery piece that was just sitting out there. Use it to wound a Sip then kill it. At least five turns until a steal attempt. On second thought we really need to upgrade our military a bit. Cats and trebs dont do a lot against TOW. The Ottomans have three SS parts complete.
IBT Lose an LB and an MP in Akshak from bombers. Akshak riots.
1. 1655 AD Kill an invading Viking and an invading Ottoman. Upgrade several cats. Disconnect the Ottoman oil.
IBT Our spy in Trondheim is captured.
2. 1660 AD Kill two more Ottoman invaders, upgrade two trebs and a cat. Spend 90G replanting our spy in Trondheim.
IBT Akshak loses another MP and riots. Production in Susa is sabotaged.
3. 1665 AD Found Rubber Outpost on the Ottoman Frontier. Upgrade two cats. Shuffle defenders. I wish we had some rails.
IBT That one was rough. Lost some units to bombers. A propaganda campaign upsets Redrums citizens.
4. 1670 AD There are at least three fleets sailing around. Each of our enemies has one marine. I am able to double up our defenders everywhere but Hareid. Kill off the Viking invasion from ten turns ago. Move artillery into Rubber Outpost to fire over the mountains next turn.
IBT A redlined EW in one of our boarder cities, kills a Mech Inf.
Two Ottomans are dropped off on our northern coast.
5. 1675 AD We bombard and kill the invaders. I check the space race. There has been no change, although I notice that we dont have a spy in Babylon. I spend 105G planting one. They have three SS parts built. Upgrade our last cat and a treb.
IBT We get this message.
heres the deal:
Before Osman walks away I also get him to give us iron and an MPP for coal, rubber, ivory, gems, & 162gpt. I know that cripples our income for a while, but I think we can make up for it.
Heres the aftermath:
IBT Lose an LB and an MP in Akshak from bombers. Akshak riots.
1. 1655 AD Kill an invading Viking and an invading Ottoman. Upgrade several cats. Disconnect the Ottoman oil.
IBT Our spy in Trondheim is captured.
2. 1660 AD Kill two more Ottoman invaders, upgrade two trebs and a cat. Spend 90G replanting our spy in Trondheim.
IBT Akshak loses another MP and riots. Production in Susa is sabotaged.
3. 1665 AD Found Rubber Outpost on the Ottoman Frontier. Upgrade two cats. Shuffle defenders. I wish we had some rails.
IBT That one was rough. Lost some units to bombers. A propaganda campaign upsets Redrums citizens.
4. 1670 AD There are at least three fleets sailing around. Each of our enemies has one marine. I am able to double up our defenders everywhere but Hareid. Kill off the Viking invasion from ten turns ago. Move artillery into Rubber Outpost to fire over the mountains next turn.
IBT A redlined EW in one of our boarder cities, kills a Mech Inf.
Two Ottomans are dropped off on our northern coast. 5. 1675 AD We bombard and kill the invaders. I check the space race. There has been no change, although I notice that we dont have a spy in Babylon. I spend 105G planting one. They have three SS parts built. Upgrade our last cat and a treb.
IBT We get this message.
heres the deal:
Before Osman walks away I also get him to give us iron and an MPP for coal, rubber, ivory, gems, & 162gpt. I know that cripples our income for a while, but I think we can make up for it.
Heres the aftermath:
Sir Bugsy
Civ.D.
Continued:
6. 1680 AD Heres the new situation. Talk about a turnaround for Ragnar:
Found Kish. Im slowly making some inroads into Viking territory.
IBT We get this message. You also can see the front here:
7. 1685 AD Working on the railroad.
8. 1690 AD Except for the southwest and northwest corners, we now have a decent military rail net.
IBT Babs add thrusters to their ship.
6. 1680 AD Heres the new situation. Talk about a turnaround for Ragnar:
Found Kish. Im slowly making some inroads into Viking territory.
IBT We get this message. You also can see the front here:
7. 1685 AD Working on the railroad.
8. 1690 AD Except for the southwest and northwest corners, we now have a decent military rail net.
IBT Babs add thrusters to their ship.
Sir Bugsy
Civ.D.
9. 1695 AD Found New Hope. Reduce Copenhagen from a bustling city of 12 to a town of 6. March on the city.
Heres the situation at the end of the turn:
IBT The Viking counter produces:
A city riots cause I was worried about the Copenhagen assault.
10. 1700 AD WE now have an infantry army. Our assault on Copenhagen results in
Another infantry army. We capture the city.
Heres the front.
The Ottos have our back. With no flanks to worry about, press on and eliminate the Vikings. Id build cities at the two red dots and take Birka next.
Save: http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads9/Goz8,_1700_AD.SAV
Heres the situation at the end of the turn:
IBT The Viking counter produces:
A city riots cause I was worried about the Copenhagen assault.
10. 1700 AD WE now have an infantry army. Our assault on Copenhagen results in
Another infantry army. We capture the city.
Heres the front.
The Ottos have our back. With no flanks to worry about, press on and eliminate the Vikings. Id build cities at the two red dots and take Birka next.
Save: http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads9/Goz8,_1700_AD.SAV