grahamiam
In debt to Mr. Geisel
i wouldn't bother with republic if we all agree with commie. for commie, we'll need to build courts in those cities. otherwise, they could be set to wealth, irrigated, and excess citizens set to scientists.
Goz8 - Silence is Golden
- Thread starter gozpel
- Start date
Kaiser_Berger
Terran Emporer
I think the goals are all good. Commie should also work out well for us, I've had nothing but good experiences with it in Conquests. I've got it.
Sir Bugsy
Civ.D.
Commie would help I think. Greater production and cash for steals. We need to catch up in tech.
Kaiser_Berger
Terran Emporer
Preturn- Fire some scientists near our core and hire some in the boondocks to keep ToG still in three.
IT- zzz
T1 1255
I decide to go settle the spot by the Vike/Ottoman border. It is far enough away that it won't cause war.
IT- zzzz
T2 1260
Not much.
IT- ToG comes in, set to Magnetism, due in 6.
T3 1265
I play with our cities and get us down to Magnetism in 5 turns. However, we run a large deficit because of this, so I then go through and hire enough tax collectors to handle it.
IT-zzz
T4 1270
Not much.
IT- Hammurabi comes demanding our ivory. I send his envoy back to Babylon with an elephant tusk shoved where the sun doesn't shine. Apparently he has heard of our great crusade against the Ottomans, as he finds humor in the comment and backs down.
T5 1275
Nothing of much interest.
IT- zzz
T6 1280
Again nothing of interest.
IT- The Russian ships that had been fragging our coastal cities withdraw.
T7 1285
Nothing much. Magnetism due next turn. Time to pray for Nationalism. Hopefully I'll get a get a chance to go to the big picture screen and select it.
IT- Vikes try to offer us territory maps, but I decline. I do notice that have over 13,000g in the kitty
We go Industrial, and I do get to pick our tech. We can finally build units stronger than longbows
T8 1290
We start research on Communism at 40%. With scientistss I get it down to 10 turns.
IT- zzz
T9 1295
Not much.
IT- A bunch of Ottoman workers are moving through our lands.
T10 1300
Not much new.
Summary
Things still look a bit bleak, but actually being in the same age as the AI is a nice change. Once we have a few rifles, we should be able to cause some damage, as we have a large number of trbs, and a bunch of cats that can be upgraded. We're going to have to pound and steal our way to victory in this one. After espionage, I'm not sure if we'll ever be wanting to research again.
IT- zzz
T1 1255
I decide to go settle the spot by the Vike/Ottoman border. It is far enough away that it won't cause war.
IT- zzzz
T2 1260
Not much.
IT- ToG comes in, set to Magnetism, due in 6.
T3 1265
I play with our cities and get us down to Magnetism in 5 turns. However, we run a large deficit because of this, so I then go through and hire enough tax collectors to handle it.
IT-zzz
T4 1270
Not much.
IT- Hammurabi comes demanding our ivory. I send his envoy back to Babylon with an elephant tusk shoved where the sun doesn't shine. Apparently he has heard of our great crusade against the Ottomans, as he finds humor in the comment and backs down.
T5 1275
Nothing of much interest.
IT- zzz
T6 1280
Again nothing of interest.
IT- The Russian ships that had been fragging our coastal cities withdraw.
T7 1285
Nothing much. Magnetism due next turn. Time to pray for Nationalism. Hopefully I'll get a get a chance to go to the big picture screen and select it.
IT- Vikes try to offer us territory maps, but I decline. I do notice that have over 13,000g in the kitty
We go Industrial, and I do get to pick our tech. We can finally build units stronger than longbows
T8 1290
We start research on Communism at 40%. With scientistss I get it down to 10 turns.
IT- zzz
T9 1295
Not much.
IT- A bunch of Ottoman workers are moving through our lands.
T10 1300
Not much new.
Summary
Things still look a bit bleak, but actually being in the same age as the AI is a nice change. Once we have a few rifles, we should be able to cause some damage, as we have a large number of trbs, and a bunch of cats that can be upgraded. We're going to have to pound and steal our way to victory in this one. After espionage, I'm not sure if we'll ever be wanting to research again.
ThERat
Deity
goz, do you know you are up in your own SG 
gozpel -> up
grahamiam -> on deck
Sir Bugsy
ThERat
Kaiser Berger -> just played
gozpel -> up
grahamiam -> on deck
Sir Bugsy
ThERat
Kaiser Berger -> just played
Pre-turn - Not much, swap a few scientists to taxmen and policemen, Commie still in 8t.
Early - Vikings are building Hoovers.
Russian galleon shows up.
Fiddle around with specialists.
Middle - Ottomans wants MPP, no trades possible and they would only pay 40g for our luxes.
Russia dare to land a reg cossack and LB kills him without breaking sweat. But I'm glad they only dropped off one unit.
5-6 russian frigates do their senseless bombardment. I retaliate by shooting off one hp of one of the ships, the people rejoice.
1340AD - We learn Communism and I revolt immediately, draw 8 turns. I will play through this anarchy and will alternate between rioting cities to avoid pop-loss. A few losses will happen though. We have plenty of taxmen hired.
1370AD - This game sucks, Korea contact us but we can't buy anything. Medicine was only close with everything we got.
Late - 1375AD - We finally become commies and Vikings starts SETI
We lost 3 pop and gained 3 by growth, so I call it a tie.
I turned off research for now, next player can choose what to do, and also play a few extra turns (or less) to even the dates. With no science we do 271gpt and have 488g in the kitty.
Not much for us to do here but wait for the fireworks to begin. Silly variant, it's way to hard on Deity, but I had to try it. With some better luck with resources, it could be a different story. But here we have nothing but ponies and some luxes noone wanted.
Early - Vikings are building Hoovers.
Russian galleon shows up.
Fiddle around with specialists.
Middle - Ottomans wants MPP, no trades possible and they would only pay 40g for our luxes.
Russia dare to land a reg cossack and LB kills him without breaking sweat. But I'm glad they only dropped off one unit.
5-6 russian frigates do their senseless bombardment. I retaliate by shooting off one hp of one of the ships, the people rejoice.
1340AD - We learn Communism and I revolt immediately, draw 8 turns. I will play through this anarchy and will alternate between rioting cities to avoid pop-loss. A few losses will happen though. We have plenty of taxmen hired.
1370AD - This game sucks, Korea contact us but we can't buy anything. Medicine was only close with everything we got.
Late - 1375AD - We finally become commies and Vikings starts SETI
We lost 3 pop and gained 3 by growth, so I call it a tie.
I turned off research for now, next player can choose what to do, and also play a few extra turns (or less) to even the dates. With no science we do 271gpt and have 488g in the kitty.
Not much for us to do here but wait for the fireworks to begin. Silly variant, it's way to hard on Deity, but I had to try it. With some better luck with resources, it could be a different story. But here we have nothing but ponies and some luxes noone wanted.
Sir Bugsy
Civ.D.
It was something that hadn't been tried, so we went for it. Let's play it out. Odder things have happened.gozpel said:
ThERat
Deity
I actually played another golden silence game alone on demigod and I won. Played sumeria, but had more luck with resources, that's all that matters in my mind.
kept the AI's at war most of the times especially at the latter stage of the game. it's easier than AW since you can get peace at times, which is essential.
I looked at the save and we do have some democracies here, no wonder they run away, but we can't declare. I wonder how successful a steal would be with those governments?
Anyway, I would love to give this another try, maybe on demigod. maybe another Civ with an strong early UU. Anyone of you people game enough for this challenge?
kept the AI's at war most of the times especially at the latter stage of the game. it's easier than AW since you can get peace at times, which is essential.
I looked at the save and we do have some democracies here, no wonder they run away, but we can't declare. I wonder how successful a steal would be with those governments?
Anyway, I would love to give this another try, maybe on demigod. maybe another Civ with an strong early UU. Anyone of you people game enough for this challenge?
grahamiam
In debt to Mr. Geisel
looks like i'm up. i'll go for espionage and start getting the SPHQ and CIA prebuild going.
Kaiser_Berger
Terran Emporer
Of course I'm in till the bitter end as well. I've gone down with far less glorious ships
grahamiam
In debt to Mr. Geisel
Preflight check: Turn on research @ 80% to Steam (6T, -47gpt).
Make a switch here or there, mostly building more courts.
We seem to still be at war with Russia.
T1: 1380AD building
T2: 1385AD building
IBT: Production in Isin sabotaged?
T3: 1390AD
T4: 1395AD
T5: 1400AD Russia offers peace and I reject it (were researching atm and cant afford any techs
IBT: Steam -> Industrialization (90%, 5T, -94gpt)
T6: 1405AD well, we have 3 sources of coal, but the lack of iron makes it ironic
Vikings building UN and Manhattens
T7: 1410AD
T8: 1415AD
T9: 1420AD
T10: 1425AD Industrialization in 1T. CIA prebuild is in Erech, SPHQ prebuild is in Der. Russians have a galleon off Kuara and Mugla. Im trying to guide them into Nagsu, where the bulk of our Trebs are located.
Make a switch here or there, mostly building more courts.
We seem to still be at war with Russia.
T1: 1380AD building
T2: 1385AD building
IBT: Production in Isin sabotaged?
T3: 1390AD
T4: 1395AD
T5: 1400AD Russia offers peace and I reject it (were researching atm and cant afford any techs
IBT: Steam -> Industrialization (90%, 5T, -94gpt)
T6: 1405AD well, we have 3 sources of coal, but the lack of iron makes it ironic
Vikings building UN and Manhattens
T7: 1410AD
T8: 1415AD
T9: 1420AD
T10: 1425AD Industrialization in 1T. CIA prebuild is in Erech, SPHQ prebuild is in Der. Russians have a galleon off Kuara and Mugla. Im trying to guide them into Nagsu, where the bulk of our Trebs are located.
grahamiam
In debt to Mr. Geisel
look here -> http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=97042ThERat said:
ThERat
Deity
bugs, I think you are up, though
Sir Bugsy
Civ.D.
Here is a preview of what I've been dealing with:
ThERat
Deity
great news, could we somehow send a unit to Ottoamn land to get them to talk to us and get them involved in the war or is this exploitative?
Sir Bugsy
Civ.D.
That may not be a bad idea. We're only in one war. Somewhere around 1455 or so Cathy offered us peace for 40G. I took it. I also bought Mil Tradition from her while we were talking.
Sir Bugsy
Civ.D.
Pre-flight The Vikings have TOW infantry. Were toast boys and girls. One turn from industrialization, then we can go for espionage. It looks like just the Vikings and the Babylonians are in the Modern age. Looks like most of Korea is learning to speak Russian.
Early - A Cossack is dropped off. Bombard and kill the Russian.
Industrialization=>Espionage (due in five.) I see we already have a pre-build going for the CIA HQ.
Ottomans build the Hoover Dam.
1440
IBT The Vikings start acting funny, and then I find out why.
Yes, boys and girls, that sound you hear is our death knell.
The Vikings also start the UN.
1445 I start throwing units towards the northeast.
IBT Since we now have a fearsome AC army in our far NE city, the Vikings bypass it and begin attacking Apisala. It holds. We get this notice.
Then our military plans were stolen.
1450 Tutub looks to be in trouble. I throw an AC in the direct path to the city. Science down 20%.
IBT Cathy comes calling and wants 40G from us for peace. Fine. I also purchase Mil Tradion for Ivory, Dyes, WM & 113G.
Tutub loses three defenders, but stands. Our lines are being infiltrated by Vikings.
Espionage=>Corp (Science to minimum)
We have a riot in Erech, probably loss of war happies. I change our pre-build over to the CIA.
Production of our CIA has been sabotaged.
1455 Kill most of the red-lined cavs.
IBT Kill four of five attackers at Susa, lose an AC. Get another riot, probably loss of an MP. I have to remember were in communism.
1460 Trebs dont make a dent on TOW.
IBT Lose two rifles at Anshan to TOW.
1465 Bombard then kill two TOW.
Im going to stop here. These last four turns took a long time. You need to check F1 after every turn in commie. Something I keep forgetting. The Vikings are using the ountains to the north for cover.
Save: http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads8/Goz8,_1465_AD.SAV
Early - A Cossack is dropped off. Bombard and kill the Russian.
Industrialization=>Espionage (due in five.) I see we already have a pre-build going for the CIA HQ.
Ottomans build the Hoover Dam.
1440
IBT The Vikings start acting funny, and then I find out why.
Yes, boys and girls, that sound you hear is our death knell.
The Vikings also start the UN.
1445 I start throwing units towards the northeast.
IBT Since we now have a fearsome AC army in our far NE city, the Vikings bypass it and begin attacking Apisala. It holds. We get this notice.
Then our military plans were stolen.
1450 Tutub looks to be in trouble. I throw an AC in the direct path to the city. Science down 20%.
IBT Cathy comes calling and wants 40G from us for peace. Fine. I also purchase Mil Tradion for Ivory, Dyes, WM & 113G.
Tutub loses three defenders, but stands. Our lines are being infiltrated by Vikings.
Espionage=>Corp (Science to minimum)
We have a riot in Erech, probably loss of war happies. I change our pre-build over to the CIA.
Production of our CIA has been sabotaged.
1455 Kill most of the red-lined cavs.
IBT Kill four of five attackers at Susa, lose an AC. Get another riot, probably loss of an MP. I have to remember were in communism.
1460 Trebs dont make a dent on TOW.
IBT Lose two rifles at Anshan to TOW.
1465 Bombard then kill two TOW.
Im going to stop here. These last four turns took a long time. You need to check F1 after every turn in commie. Something I keep forgetting. The Vikings are using the ountains to the north for cover.
Save: http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads8/Goz8,_1465_AD.SAV
ThERat
Deity
before I play I want to know whether it is ok to send a unit to ottoman land to get them to talk so we can get them to ally against Vikings