Goz8 - Silence is Golden

[Sir Bugsy]

Pre-flight – Remember Bugs, don’t talk to strangers.

IBT – We now have contact with Babylon.
S. Salmon – worker=>barracks
2510 BC – Price of WC drops nicely to 2 turns. Drop science also.
Ur: granary=>Endiku
2470 BC – Science down some more.
WC=>alphabet Science back up to get it in 15. Figure we may want to go for Zeus.

2430 BC – Waltz into Viking lands.
IBT - Ragnar asks us to leave. Yeah, sure. He didn’t open up the negotiating table so I don’t either. Hopefully, that is in keeping with the variant.
Ur: Endiku=>settler
2390 BC -
IBT - Ragnar kicks our guy out.

2350
2310
2270 – Cost of Alphabet drops, someone else knows it. Lux up 10%
IBT – Ur: settler=>endiku

2230 – Lux to zero.
2190
IBT – Ur: Endiku=>barracks
2150 – Found Lagash. It is three tiles east of Ur. Start worker

After action – Not a lot. Building settlers is a slow process.

Save: http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads8/Goz8,2150BC.SAV

SITREP:

 

[ThERat]

got it, will play today.
will try and settle the horse/ivory spot before the AI does

 

[ThERat]

Pre-Turn
check things out, everything is fine, we need more of everything but mainly settlers

IT Ragnar is angry, asks us to leave

1. 2110BC
Ur grows, lux to 10%, northern enkidu reaches end of landmass

IT and Ragnar gives us the boot

IT - Lakash - enkidu-> worker
5. 1950BC
Ur grows, up lux to 20%, reduce science, alphabet next turn

IT alphabet in, change to masonry to get maths, Ur: rax -> settler
6. 1910BC
nth much, there is a barb horse outside Lagash

IT Vikings build oracle

7. 1870BC
enkidu discovers 2 dyes sources not far from our land

IT gems connected, Sweet Salmon: rax -> enkidu, Ottoman building ToA

8. 1830BC
lower lux to 10%


IT Vikings building pyramids and finish colossus

9. 1790BC
up lux to 20%, Ur grew to 5

IT
Ur settler -> enkidu. Lagash worker -> rax (vetoable)

10. 1750BC
I lowered lux already , masonry in 5 turns
send settler to claim horses and ivory, we can be possibly lux rich with ivory, gems and dyes
there is a hut next to enkidu, but we might get barbs, next person can chose to pop it or not
Lagash looks shield rich, it should be used for the SoZ pre-build

 

[grahamiam]

kb, i believe your up

gozpel -> on deck
grahamiam
Sir Bugsy
ThERat -> just played
Kaiser Berger -> up

 

[gozpel]

Building settlers without food-bonus is always a slow process. If we only can grab those 2 luxes soon, we're sitting good. I can feel some AI settler already aiming to get there first, so do not dawdle.

 

[ThERat]

does KB know he is up?
no got it...

 

[grahamiam]

Building settlers without food-bonus is always a slow process. If we only can grab those 2 luxes soon, we're sitting good. I can feel some AI settler already aiming to get there first, so do not dawdle.

yes, we need to take your tried and true approach every town must start building settlers when it's @ size 2 and can finish it just after or at the same time it reaches size 3. that would be sweet salmon and ur after the enkidu's (keeping ur at 2+ will help research). it gets tricky, though, without embassy's and good relations.

Lagash's barracks are for the SoZ, i assume, however we can do a palace prebuild as therat suggests whilst we build-up the pop, so we get it soon after math and ivory is connected. with a large pop and spt, the barracks may be able to be completed before the first AC pops out.

@rat: re: KB, he's over his time limit but it's the weekend maybe goz is just cutting him some slack until he's ready to take it

 

[Kaiser_Berger]

Whoa, sorry to let this slip so far. Weekend+Finals Week= lots of missed time on Civfanatics

I've got it though, should have it out within a day or two.

 

[Kaiser_Berger]

Preturn- Move settler towards the promised land.

T3 1675

Barbs are being a real pain as I have to withdraw workers from the fields.

T4 1650

Damned barb horse managed to find a worker I forgot to hide. Thanks for the barbs G-man

T5 1625

Masonry comes in. Start on Math for Zeus. Several Viking units approach.

We claim the horses/ivory patch.

T6 1600

Yay, looks like the vikes are down here to clean up some barbs.

T8 1550

Umma founded on the coast.

T10 1500

Osman demands 20g and we have our first war.


Summary

Our wars begin now. With an Ottoman warrior just north of one of our cities, I'd expect a GA soon as well.

 

[gozpel]

This will be interesting

I got it.

 

[gozpel]

Preturn - Kill barbhorse with EW, move some tiles and units around. We need more units up by the Promised Lands immediately.

1475bc - Sweet Salmon worker -> EW

Pop GH for barbs.

1450bc - Defend against 3 barbs and a barbgalley IT.

Ottoman warriors will attack PL next turn.

1425bc - And we are in Golden Age, EW defends against warrior and promotes to elite.

Ur settler -> archer.
Lagash barracks -> archer.
Umma EW -> barracks.

1400AD - Elite EW redlines, but defends against warrior.

PL EW -> barracks.
Sweet Salmon EW -> archer.

Bad-tibira founded -> EW.

EW up north spots Otto sword.

1375bc - Elite EW kills warrior, but no leader.

1350bc - Lose our scouting EW up north to archer.

Ur archer -> archer.

1325bc - Lagash archer -> archer.

EW take out barbcamp SE of Ur.

1300bc - We learn Maths -> IW at 100%, due in 5 turns. We need to see where the iron is.

Babylon completes the Pyramids. Other civs are building ToA, Lighthouse and MoM.

Take out another barbcamp.

1275bc - Horses are connected, I will hook up ivory next.

Ur archer -> settler.

1250bc - Lose EW to barbhorse.

Sweet Salmon archer -> chariot.

A couple of Ottomans are N of PL.

IW in 3 turns, I would like HBR next, to get some horsemen.

Lagash is building granary as prebuild for SoZ.

 

[grahamiam]

i wonder if we would have had a chance at philosophy with such an early GA? guess not if MoM is being built.
Got it.

 

[Sir Bugsy]

I'd say that's the give away.

 

[grahamiam]

I'd say that's the give away.

yeah, i'm master-of-the-obvious, aren't i

 

[ThERat]

next tech we should research is HBR, at least we know we have horses connected already and need them urgently. we could also go for lit as the AI tends to ignore it.
do we want to join a settler to our SoZ city to speed up the wonder? or is that just too wasteful?

 

[gozpel]

It's cheaper to build another worker or two and join them if we need it. We need to settle as fast as we can or the AI will come trampling. Ottomans are already pretty close to our northern border.

I bet a few settler-pairs are already heading for the east side of our territory, as it starts to look pretty crowded up north.

I agree on HBR.

 

[grahamiam]

Preflight check: I go thru all the towns for giggles. We really need workers and cities, but we’re at war. This really is no picnic.
I move the Elite Ekidu covering the ivory worker, to see if anyone is sneaking down the right side and I spot a Viking spear/settler pair, too late to block if I wanted.

IBT: see 2 sets of Otto warrior/archers moving towards us, nothing serious. Barb horse and warrior move towards Umma in the south

T1: 1225BC Rotate Enkidu’s over from Bad to Ur and then from Ur to Umma. I do not want to lose an almost built barracks in Umma.
Crap, a Viking archer is going to go thru our territory to take care of the barbs More war.

IBT: Otto’s go barb hunting instead of Enkidu hunting; Barbs in the south head for the empty Bad-tiberia; Vikings don't enter
Ur settler -> Enkidu
Ottoman’s complete MoM and Russia completes Glib. Seems we’re a little behind the times.

T2: 1200BC Settler and a Enkidu from Lagash head E to claim the game. Lower Science to 60%, IW still in 2T, +7gpt

IBT: see an Otto sword
Umma barracks -> chariot

T3: 1175BC Bad-tib Enkidu kills barb horse and promotes (3/4) Ivory is connected. Fiddle with sci slider again to get a few more gold.

IBT: IW -> HBR (5T, -1gpt)
Ur: Enkidu -> chariot

T4: 1150BC Growth gives us +1gpt. Otto’s coming at us with 2 warriors, 3 archers, and 1 sword in 3 different groups.

IBT: Enkidu near Ur defends against barb; Sweet Salmon chariot -> chariot

T5: 1125BC Near Sweet Salmon: Chariot kills warrior (2/4); vet archer redlines but kills reg archer.
Lose 5gpt, but take a turn off HBR

IBT: Lagash granary -> SoZ (25T)

T6: 1100BC Not much

IBT: Ur chariot -> chariot; Umma Chariot -> worker

T7: 1075BC Near Sweet Salmon: archer kills warrior (2/4); chariot kills archer (2/4)

HBR -> Writing (we need Libraries)

T8: 1050BC Upgrade 2 chariots to horseman. Vikings settle in our rear I think I went after the wrong game
Near Sweet Salmon: Archer dies against sword (2/3); archer kills sword; chariot kills archer

IBT: Uma worker -> horseman

T9: 1025BC nada

IBT: Ottomans drop off a sword near our gems
Ur: Horseman -> settler; Bad-T barracks -> worker

T10: 1000BC Near the gems: Horseman kills sword
Agade founded, in a non-ideal spot, but at least I finally got it down
Build Enkidu so it can build a worker next.

 

[grahamiam]

btw, i think we're jibbed on the iron.

 

[ThERat]

so many days not even a got it, Sir bugsy is up in a lot of games I think....am so free this afternoon (in about 5 hours) , if Gozpel says go, i go ahead and play

 

[gozpel]

My SG's are very casual during the holidays, so there's no stress at all and if someone wants to take a save, please do so.

Roster can be changed and mended after New Years. I for one won't have much time to play, if any time at all.