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The original translation that Dachs gave was correct. Note also that Romans didn't speak of single persons using plurals that time (except sometimes in poetry to make it match the form).
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Oderint dum metuant.

My Latin was a long time ago - but still: where do you guys see an object in this?

My translation would be: let them hate as long as they fear.

Neither 'me' nor 'us' in that sentence. You can infer it from context, but it's not in the sentence.
 
"Divide and rule, a sound motto; unite and lead, a better one." - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
 
A good motto, I'd agree.
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where do you guys see an object in this?

Oops, sorry, didn't notice "me" in Dachs' translation, I was so sure that he had it right.

I like this one:

"Italy can survive the loss of Aldo Moro. It would not survive the introduction of torture."

said by General Carlo Alberto Dalla Chiesa when it was suggested that captured Red Prigade memebers should be tortured. It read in wikipedia, so it's true.
 
"I've been called worse things by better people."
-Pierre Trudeau, when he heard that Richard Nixon called him something bad.

EDIT: Got rid of swear.

"Now it seems the crooks charge twenty to thirty thousand dollars for a fake Ferrari body attached to an old Pontiac chassis, and here's how you sniff out a fake: take a pocketknife and scrape off some of the paint on the hood just behind the ornament. If it's a real Ferrari, someone will kick your ass."
-Stephen T. Colbert
 
"You are pitiful isolated individuals; you are bankrupts, your role is played out. Go where you belong from now on - into the rubbish-can of history!" - Leon Trotsky, to Martov and his Menshevik followers, after the October Revolution

Kind of him to warn them. :mischief: They walked away anyway. :lol:


Some of my favorites:

Somebody says: "Of no school I am part,
Never to living master lost my heart,
Nor any more can I be said
To have learned anything from the dead."
That statement - subject to appeal -
Means "I'm a self-made imbecile."
Goethe, Den Originalen


"Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty—power is ever stealing from the many to the few…. The hand entrusted with power becomes … the necessary enemy of the people. Only by continual oversight can the democrat in office be prevented from hardening into a despot: only by unintermitted Agitation can a people be kept sufficiently awake to principle not to let liberty be smothered in material prosperity."
Wendell Phillips
[too bad that people tend to quote only the first seven words]


"With each slain being an entire world dies. For that reason arithmetic provides no measure for ethics. Irreversible evil cannot be measured."
Stanislaw Lem


"I divide my officers into four classes; the clever, the lazy, the industrious, and the stupid. Most often two of these qualities come together. The officers who are clever and industrious are fitted for the highest staff appointments. Those who are stupid and lazy make up around 90% of every army in the world, and they can be used for routine work. The man who is clever and lazy however is for the very highest command; he has the temperament and nerves to deal with all situations. But whoever is stupid and industrious is a menace and must be removed immediately!"
Kurt von Hammerstein-Equord


"Terrorism is the war of the poor, and war is the terrorism of the rich."
Peter Ustinov


"We don't know who 'discovered' water, but we can be pretty sure it wasn't a fish".
Marshall McLuhan


"The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds; and the pessimist fears this is true."
James Branch Cabell


"De tous les systèmes economiques et sociaux, le capitalisme est sans conteste le plus naturel. Ceci suffit déjà à indiquer qu'il devra être le pire."
Michel Houellebecq (thanks, kronic, the guy wrote some interesting books)


"The worship of will is the negation of will. . . If Mr. Bernard Shaw comes up to me and says, «Will something,» that is tantamount to saying, «I do not mind what you will,» and that is tantamount to saying, «I have no will in the matter.» You cannot admire will in general, because the essence of will is that it is particular."
G. K. Chesterton


"The Government are very keen on amassing statistics - they collect them, add them, raise them to the nth power, take the cube root and prepare wonderful diagrams. But what you must never forget is that every one of these figures comes in the first place from the village watchman, who just puts down what he damn pleases."
Unknown british civil servant, about British India


"In life everything has either a price or a dignity."
Kant


"The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy - that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness"
J. K. Galbraith


"I would rather be vaguely right than precisely wrong."
J. M. Keynes


and finally one again current after a century:
"I am more concerned with the return of my money than the return on my money"
Mark Twain
 
innonimatu said:
Kind of him to warn them. They walked away anyway.

Walk down the road, into what nobody knows.
 
Let's have a Kipling verse:

Gold for the mistress, silver for the maid,
Copper for the craftsman, cunning at his trade.
Good! Said the baron, sitting in the hall,
But Iron, Cold Iron, is master of them all.
 
A PC is like airconditioning: it works fine until you start opening windows.

"De tous les systèmes economiques et sociaux, le capitalisme est sans conteste le plus naturel. Ceci suffit déjà à indiquer qu'il devra être le pire."
Michel Houellebecq

Depends on the definition of capitalism I guess. (ie. does capitalism allow slavery?)
 
Depends on the definition of capitalism I guess. (ie. does capitalism allow slavery?)

The only thing that prevents it is the need for the people making the goods to be able to buy some of those goods as well, and to just barely survive. There are no other bourgeois interests regarding the workers.
 
"Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty—power is ever stealing from the many to the few…. The hand entrusted with power becomes … the necessary enemy of the people. Only by continual oversight can the democrat in office be prevented from hardening into a despot: only by unintermitted Agitation can a people be kept sufficiently awake to principle not to let liberty be smothered in material prosperity."
Wendell Phillips
[too bad that people tend to quote only the first seven words]

True - in fact, the very people he warns about like to use those seven words the most!



"I divide my officers into four classes; the clever, the lazy, the industrious, and the stupid. Most often two of these qualities come together. The officers who are clever and industrious are fitted for the highest staff appointments. Those who are stupid and lazy make up around 90% of every army in the world, and they can be used for routine work. The man who is clever and lazy however is for the very highest command; he has the temperament and nerves to deal with all situations. But whoever is stupid and industrious is a menace and must be removed immediately!"
Kurt von Hammerstein-Equord

Great! All right everyone, move over, I'm taking supreme command - clever and lazy describes me to a T! :D


"De tous les systèmes economiques et sociaux, le capitalisme est sans conteste le plus naturel. Ceci suffit déjà à indiquer qu'il devra être le pire."
Michel Houellebecq (thanks, kronic, the guy wrote some interesting books)

A translation would not have been amiss - I can translate everything but the last word, and I have the feeling that one is important... ;)



"The Government are very keen on amassing statistics - they collect them, add them, raise them to the nth power, take the cube root and prepare wonderful diagrams. But what you must never forget is that every one of these figures comes in the first place from the village watchman, who just puts down what he damn pleases."
Unknown british civil servant, about British India

Known today as: "GIGO" (garbage in, garbage out)

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Oops, sorry, didn't notice "me" in Dachs' translation, I was so sure that he had it right.
Sorry, homes, I don't know Latin at all, it's just one of the versions of the translation that I've seen before. :dunno:

"You admit then, that you do not wish to recognize any other right than that of your convenience and force, and if that is the case, then where is the security of Europe? Where is the confidence that [Europe] could put in the treaties that states make with you?"
-V. I. Morkov, Russian ambassador, to First Consul Napoléon Bonaparte, 1803

"General, I have been a soldier all my life. I have been with soldiers engaged in fights by couples, by squads, companies, regiments, divisions, and armies, and should know, as well as anyone, what soldiers can do. It is my opinion that no fifteen thousand men ever arranged for battle could take that position."
-Attributed to James Longstreet, July 2, 1863, discussing the Federal position at Gettysburg with Robert E. Lee
 
He is best who is trained in the severest school. - Thucydides
 
He is best who is trained in the severest school. - Thucydides

Almost kindov redundant.....Its like saying he who weight lifts a lot is strongest.
 
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