Harald Hardrada

[nitedemon]

Could the stave church be just a religious building linked to a belief , and not Norway's UB?

 

[stealth_nsk]

Could the stave church be just a religious building linked to a belief , and not Norway's UB?

Belief-based buildings are not unlocked with civic and they take third slot, not second as Temple does. Stave Church unlocked at Theocracy means it's 99% Temple replacement.

 

[Haggbart]

^^^ What he said.

Could the stave church be just a religious building linked to a belief , and not Norway's UB?

Also we've seen screenshots of the belief unlocked buildings, IIRC there are 7 different. There's already cathedral on the list representing christianity, it would be strange if that was changed for stave church which is much more narrow both in geography and time period.

Today there are only a couple of stave churches preserved outside Norway, while here we have almost 30. So it totally makes sense as an UB.

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

With Temple replacement UB, Norway looks like deeply religious civ - Temple requires very religious civic and Holy Site with Shrine. My thought is the ability to buy units with faith cheaper, although it could be UB (for the city it's built in).

Also, the UB doesn't look like quite common and I don't think early UU is that cool. So, either UU is really cool, like having ability to sail oceans, or civ ability is very strong.

The Songhai had a religious UB in Civ V and it hardly made them a religion-oriented civ.

 

[stealth_nsk]

The Songhai had a religious UB in Civ V and it hardly made them a religion-oriented civ.

1. Theology sits in the dead-end branch for religion only. Civs not focused on religion just don't bother researching it. In contrast, in Civ5 the technology opening temples was Mandatory for everyone.

2. Temple in Civ6 requires Holy Site with Shrine in it. Only religious-oriented civs build enough Holy Sites to make Temple-replacing UB valuable. In Civ5 you needed only Shrine to build a Temple.

 

[Tantor]

I hope Haralds UA is Berserk. Giving his troops a general combat bonus as well as some bonus for either plunder or amphibious assault.....

 

[KrikkitTwo]

1. Theology sits in the dead-end branch for religion only. Civs not focused on religion just don't bother researching it. In contrast, in Civ5 the technology opening temples was Mandatory for everyone.

2. Temple in Civ6 requires Holy Site with Shrine in it. Only religious-oriented civs build enough Holy Sites to make Temple-replacing UB valuable. In Civ5 you needed only Shrine to build a Temple.

Are we sure Temple requires Shrine?
I remember seeing a tooltip where university just needed a campus, not a Library, so its possible you only need the district for some buildings.

 

[stealth_nsk]

Are we sure Temple requires Shrine?
I remember seeing a tooltip where university just needed a campus, not a Library, so its possible you only need the district for some buildings.

We don't know for sure, agree.

Still requirement for a district is way bigger than requirement for 1 early building in previous games.

 

[darkace77450]

Because more diverse cultures & nations as civs are better than more European civs.

You say that as if all historical European nations are essentially indistinguishable from on another. The ancient Greeks had no more in common with the Vikings than they did the ancient Chinese.

 

[Verified_Confection_Being]

You say that as if all historical European nations are essentially indistinguishable from on another. The ancient Greeks had no more in common with the Vikings than they did the ancient Chinese.

Actually that's factually incorrect. The Ancient Chinese pre-AD were trading with the central Asians, Persians etc, who were trading with the Greeks, so they would have used their goods and known of them.

The vikings on the other hand didn't exist yet. There were germanic celtic tribes up there, but they would largely have been cut off from the meditteranean, particularly Greece by the mountains in the balkans.

So Ancient Greece actually had much more in common with ancient China. 'Europe' is just a random line drawn on a map, it doesn't show cultural distinction.

 

[need my speed]

Similarly, Rome - Dai Qin - had diplomatic contact with China. A very interesting read.