HC-03: The Ottomanation

[Hackapell]

I would strike ASAP: Jans do not have a long shelf life, and I only expect that we will be able to take out at max 2 opposing civs, preferably Qin and someone else(most likely auggie). Make sure we are stockpiling cats for the upcoming war; I would rather just have to build jans than totally reprioritize.
I would head Philo-nationalism-lib and pick up mil tradition for cavalry after GP. Also, have we converted to judaism to curry favor with others?
When's our next Great Person due?

 

[pigswill]

What victory are we going for?

Its a good idea to take out Qin. Maybe go after the terrible twins (GK (edit: ok, so its monte, I suppose I could always read the thread before I post) and Tok) coz they're likely to be backwards - few trading opportunities and vulnerable to Jans.

 

[Hackapell]

I don't know. Kinda open-ended. Domination or (if production is good on the close continent) Space. Too late for cultural and we can keep a diplo as a backdoor plan. Conquest is also a possibility, seeing as our fine friend all alone should be easy prey for our troops.

 

[pigswill]

Played a few turns up to 950ad.

Fairly quiet (so far).

Looked at all them tasty trading opportunities and I'm afraid to say I relapsed.

740ad.
Trade CS to Gus for calendar and construction.
Trade CS to Qin for MC and 400g.
Trade CS and 20g to Roo for feudalism.

755ad.
Trade rice to Fred for wine.

815ad.
Christianity spreads to Bursa.

830.
Fred burns GS on philosophy and nabs Taoism.

845ad.
Qin says 'cancel deals with Fred'.
We say 'no'
Qin has machinery and can build cho ko nu.
Was it wise to refuse?
Qin meanwhile muscles in on our turf:

860ad.
Trade CS and calendar to Fred for machinery, poly and his map.

890ad
Gus demands paper! I agree .
I ask Gus for 50g, he agrees.
I ask Gus for mono. 'Don't push you luck pal' he says with his praetorian legions.

905ad.
Education>gunpowder (10 turns).
We're at the bottom of the power chart, switch Ankara to LB, couple of cities from research to wealth.

920ad.
Now Roo wants to swap maps, ok.

935. Istanbul barracks>LB.

950.
End of a quiet set.
Roll on you Jans.

 

[Hackapell]

Pigswill, I'm sorry but PAPER???? AG can do nothing to us, there's no reason not to reject him. And Freddy founds Taoism. That makes him an outlier, so no trading only demanding. Why have we not converted to Judaism yet? we need more soon, or WW will kill us.

Stuge, you're up! Military build up soon please! with extra cats on top!

The roster:
Hackapell: on deck
mice:
Slobberinbear:
pigswill: just played
stuge: UP NOW

 

[stuge]

Time to get cracking.

 

[stuge]

Okay, I took 15 to get the army started. Janissaries and cats, 'nuff said. I suggest chopping down all the excess forests in the north and south of Istanbul to aid the war effort. Ankara is starving, don't worry, it'll get better when a farm completes next turn. There are some janis and cats on long go-tos towards Ankara. I made us less popular with Monty, Toku and Freddie (boo-hoo) by refusing some idiotic demands. We got gunpowder, obviously, and I started philosophy, due next turn. I completely forgot to revolt to Judaism, it can be done on the IT.

 

[Hackapell]

Can't get to the save(again), please attach. It's just easier for me.

 

[stuge]

Dumb me. Here is it.

 

[Hackapell]

Got it. will continue the buildup and post tommorow.

 

[Hackapell]

Just kidding

So, more build-up. I would like to strike soon; our land is marginal, and qin has good land, 2 holy cities, and wonders to take. After that, we should probably get auggie, just because again, he has the best land. I also converted, so we're starting to curry favor with that block

Screenies: (coming soon, I'm kinda busy atm)




Stoopid AI!




That's a problem.

We also have a GS sleeping in istanbul. I would bulb him for printing prees so we can recover in trades and jump-start our economy.

The roster:
Hackapell:just played
mice: UP NOW
Slobberinbear: on deck
stuge:
pigswill:

 

[mice]

Got it. Can play tonight. I'm thinking we need trebs aswell as all those Jans.

 

[Hackapell]

Feel free to backfill Engineering. Trade it to Roosy for paper. Also, a reminder that lib is in 4 turns, so exercise caution over when we want to research it(i.e. no one has Edu).
Forgot to mention in report post, but monty has his hands full and is annoyed.

 

[mice]

We'll Hack gave the go ahead so i went and traded gunpowder to our friends for all of
Engineering, Guilds,HBR,Drama, Montheism, Literature and Compass. Not bad.

Set tech to Chemistry, in in 24 turns. no other civ jas philo or education. some dont have paper. Roosevelt and Augustus to watch there, but we can easliy grab Lib if we have to. Steel would be devastating.

Building a couple of trebs now.

Decide now is the time to do it.

Spoiler :

Declare on Quinn, who will forever remind me of Cam_H, and move towards Shanghai, leaving the "two longbow" cities to shake in their boots.

Shanghai falls for one catapult and one Jan.

(first treb withdraws after doing good damage. I love trebs in this version)

Stack moves to Xian, the iron city and I leave the save there for the next ,mr. Slobberinbear. Without iron Quin is chopped suey.

Are we going domination? If so we may need to bckstab our friends. with this land we could settle in for space. Just a thought.

If we dont go dom ,then wwe should re think the liberalism pop.

 

[mice]

double by mistake

might as well add the roster

The roster:
Hackapell:
mice: Just played
Slobberinbear: UP !!
stuge: on deck
pigswill:

 

[slobberinbear]

I've got it.

 

[slobberinbear]

Playing 10 turns, as we are at war.

turn 1: Xian, Qin's iron city, taken with no losses. Even the suicide catapult survived.

turn 2: big stack moving west to Beijing. Chengdu, skipped chinese city in Qin's northeast, approached by stream of new Jannisaries.

turn 3: big stack still moving, northeastern force still gathering. Workers in jungle area focused on completing road to Ankara for ease of reinforcement. Used some of our conquest cash for upgrading two Ankara axes to maces.

turn 4: in position for beijing assault next turn!

turn 5: Beijing reduced from 125% defense to 17%. Chengdu being battered by one trebuchet.

turn 6: Beijing and Chendu taken! We lost a couple of catapults at Beijing and some macemen at Chengdu, but Qin is on the ropes.

turn 7: bonus: we discover silver in the mined hills near Bursa. w00t! Did I mention we got a great general? I merged him with one of our old chariots for a mobile medic. He's joined the Shanghai stack (the one that took out chengdu). beijing stack is healing; siege engines are all seriously damaged.

turn 8: Shanghai stack advancing westward. A small force of Jans is moving to take out the interloper chinese city in our jungle area. Beijing forces still healing.

turn 9: interloper city, Hangzhou, burned to the ground. Beijing stack advancing again. Shanghai stack killed a settler and two escorts trying to escape, approach target city.

turn 10: Nanjing bombarded from northern stack; Guangzhou approached by southern stack. Not looking good for Qin. I leave it to the next player to take our neighbor to the woodshed.

The roster:
Hackapell:
mice:
Slobberinbear: just played
stuge: UP!!
pigswilln deck

 

[pigswill]

pigswilln deck?

 

[Hackapell]

@ pigswill
I think so. That was the order you signed up in. BUt we have been switching you two up, so if stuge agrees, we'll keep the new order of me, mice, slobberin, pigswill, and stuge.

@ mice
on the war declaration and execution. What was your rationale for the DoW? large enough army, or something else.

@ all:
We are doing well so far!
A few things: could people chime in concerning victory conditions and, AFAIK, the sleeping GS in Istanbul? If we bulb him and tech nationalism, we can lib Military tradition for calvary and the dom victory, alng with a comfortable tech lead. We should also probably send caravels soon to explore for our last bachelor.
Our next dom target is also in the air, although I would like to kill auggie and knock out a firm competitor with wonders and good land.

 

[Hackapell]

OK, with no sign from stuge, we will keep the pattern in my above post and move on to pigswill.

New OFFICIAL Roster
Hackapell:
mice:
slobberinbear: just played
pigswill: UP FOR 10 TURNS
stuge: on deck

If you conquer qin during the turnset pigswill, go ahead and play 15 turns.