Heretic_Cata's "All in One" mod (Semi-Private Beta)

[Stormrage]

I play on tiny maps, I guess I`m the minority here

 

[Heretic_Cata]

I play on tiny maps, I guess I`m the minority here

Why ? Do you like short games ?

My mod is actualy meant to get longer and slower than the normal game.
-research costs more;
-settlers & workers cost more and have an upgrade path like rhye's
-the towers exist and they cost a lot, but they can take a beating, so atacking is harder and it takes more time

I like reaaaallllly loooooooooooooooooooooooooong games that never seem to end except with a nuke fight or a peacefull ending.

 

[Stormrage]

My games last 6 hours tops. Mostly I play from start to finish without stopping

 

[kairob]

i like long games but i dont like stopping, if i dont finish in three days ill get bored, the longest ive played at a time is 18 hours the shortest i would even bothering to turn me comp on for is about 2 hours but i do other stuff at the same time (my girlfreind tought me to multitask )

 

[Stormrage]

Its so strange to see you outside the WH threads, Kai

When I load a saved game I completly lose interest in playing it again.. thats why I like tiny maps. I either finish quickly, or I don`t miss much when I have to quit

 

[kairob]

im the same my personal mod is the only one i can reload, and i have only finished one game of it cos i keep changing stuff and starting again, im strying to get the civ placment perfect i am actually quite proud of how well the civ placment is going....

edit; sorry this is going off topic, im not having chance to play ya mod too much atm cos i have exams and a girl friend, but i will dedicate an afternoon to it within the next couple of weeks and get a good game out of it, and i love what you have done with your resaurces btw

 

[Heretic_Cata]

I started a game 1 week ago when the beta test started and did end it. I get bored easly by most computer games. I have to play several of them per day. Now i play Diablo 2 and Civ3. I can't play only one of the 2, i'd get bored to fast.

edit; sorry this is going off topic

I don't mind the offtopic.

im not having chance to play ya mod too much atm cos i have exams and a girl friend, but i will dedicate an afternoon to it within the next couple of weeks and get a good game out of it,

It's ok - there is still lots of time left. I have to actualy finish the game i started 1 week ago and then search for graphic stuff (2 weeks probably) and then the civilopedia descriptions (another 2 weeks probably). There is still time.

and i love what you have done with your resaurces btw

Thank you. I am really proud of them because i modified/made quite a few of them there.

 

[matteo773]

Error!

art\wonder splash\ruin.pcx

And I was enjoying the game so much!

Since I'm posting, I'm making my report now.

The first game I started, well didn't last long, starting next to a volcano had something to do with it.... I also noticed that on an island you do not get many of the important resources; but that's the same in normal conquests.

The next game (the one I'm playing now) i have no problems with resources at all, but a couple of things i noticed....

• The AI are really expensive to trade with
• It's almost imposible to sink galleys in sea or ocean (which I don't mind) but seems to give the human player an unfair advantage.
• Also most of the special wonder produced units are conversions, which I'm not a fan of and felt should be a bit more special (but thats just my opinion)

But I'm loving the game so far and I'm real impressed with the extent of buildings and resources!

A great mod, my only worry is... whether I autosaved recently

EDIT:found out what the error was I'd just built a scavenger camp

 

[Heretic_Cata]

Error!

art\wonder splash\ruin.pcx

I made a typo in the pediaicons. It was supposed to be ruins.pcx but it is easier to rename the splash now. (i see you already did that)

The first game I started, well didn't last long, starting next to a volcano had something to do with it....

That is dangerousThe erruption period is 1500.

I also noticed that on an island you do not get many of the important resources; but that's the same in normal conquests.

Maybe the resources on those islands happened to be only modern resources. (maybe)

• The AI are really expensive to trade with

• I have no idea what might cause this ...
  

  [*]It's almost imposible to sink galleys in sea or ocean (which I don't mind) but seems to give the human player an unfair advantage.

  Maybe you are playing a seafaring civ... kuz my 2 galleys went to the bottom on the first turn.
  

  [*]Also most of the special wonder produced units are conversions, which I'm not a fan of and felt should be a bit more special (but thats just my opinion)

I didn't have a choice in most cases, but if you happened to know any units somewhere that are not conversions and that might replace them, then please suggest... i never was good at unit-stuff.

But I'm loving the game so far and I'm real impressed with the extent of buildings and resources!

A great mod, my only worry is... whether I autosaved recently

EDIT:found out what the error was I'd just built a scavenger camp

Thank you
And thank you for the report
Yes, please leave the autosave on ... it saved me a couple of times.

 

[matteo773]

Maybe you are playing a seafaring civ... kuz my 2 galleys went to the bottom on the first turn.

Yup, but I'm never normally that lucky

That is dangerousThe erruption period is 1500.

Tell me about it!

I didn't have a choice in most cases, but if you happened to know any units somewhere that are not conversions and that might replace them, then please suggest... i never was good at unit-stuff.

Well... I've made ONE unit so far... (not very good but I'll hopefully improve)... and no promises... but... if i find a decent FREE unit creating program...i might make some units for you... no promises mind but IF I have time I just might... Just don't get your hopes up I'm very unpredictable

Anyway! Back to testing!

 

[T.A JONES]

I just read this report and must say it sure sounds most promising. I hope you hang-on to that complete pedia idea. Helta remember what I said, the Pedia is a players best friend. Now I can't wait for this release so I'll keep bizy 'n add a longer shelf to my Mod Mantle(CivContent) Goodluck, and all the best in finishing your modjob

 

[conquer_dude]

I would love to help test.

 

[Heretic_Cata]

Well... I've made ONE unit so far... (not very good but I'll hopefully improve)... and no promises... but... if i find a decent FREE unit creating program...i might make some units for you... no promises mind but IF I have time I just might... Just don't get your hopes up I'm very unpredictable

I didn't exactly mean you should make those units (i know it's hard and it takes a long time to make - unless you are an aaglo-ppl). I was thinking if you saw another better one on the forum.

I just read this report and must say it sure sounds most promising. I hope you hang-on to that complete pedia idea. Helta remember what I said, the Pedia is a players best friend. Now I can't wait for this release so I'll keep bizy 'n add a longer shelf to my Mod Mantle(CivContent) Goodluck, and all the best in finishing your modjo

Don't worry, i'll make the pedia (as) complete (as i can).
I still don't know what Helta means.

I would love to help test.

Yey.
Welcome to the beta-testing team. I'm PM-ing you now.

 

[Heretic_Cata]

Oh yea, and could someone please play the feudalism gov through the 2nd age... kuz i think i made it too strong with the Lord Castle - improvement and the others.
(And if it's not strong enough maybe i will decrease the shield cost of the castle. )

I will test this too when i start my second game, but that will be a little later since i am lengthening my current game as long as possible to get to build as many improvs, wonders, units, stuff - as i can to see if there are any other errors.

 

[matteo773]

I tried to find some replacements for some the units, and this is what I found.
Kinboat's achilles unit to replace the broadswordsman
Kinboat's cataphract to replace the cataphract
maddy1983's mercenary to replace the almogavar
aaglo's b29 to replace the superfortress
I also thought that the american flamethrower from PTW could replace the current one; and that one of wyrm's submarines to replace the polaris.

EDIT: Error-art\units\RomanCavalry\RomanCavalry.ini (there was a space between roman and cavalry in the ini)

 

[Heretic_Cata]

I tried to find some replacements for some the units, and this is what I found.
Kinboat's achilles unit to replace the broadswordsman
Kinboat's cataphract to replace the cataphract
maddy1983's mercenary to replace the almogavar
aaglo's b29 to replace the superfortress
I also thought that the american flamethrower from PTW could replace the current one; and that one of wyrm's submarines to replace the polaris.

- the broadswordsman will be replaced. Kinboat's does look a LOT better.-
- the cataphract i added ... well ... technicaly, historicaly it was not supposed to be a cataphracti at all, it was supposed to be a relatively quick horseman for kamikaze style assassinations. I added the AoE cataphract kuz i didn't know what to choose. So kinboat's goes in the game.
- that mercenary is not very apropriate, since it has no assegai and doesn't look very catalunian (or at least non-asian)
- i don't even remember the superfortress i added :crazyeyes: , i never could tell some conversions from made ones. I'll add this too.
- there's a flamethrower in ptw ? Where ?
- does wyrm have a missile shooting submarine ?


I'll add them in the final version of the game, since they are a bit too big for patches. I could add lots of smallish patches ... but neah, it's just an aestethic thingy, so it is not very important for the beta (but crucial in the final).

Thank you matteo i really don't have an eye for units. (i only have eyes for wondersplashes )

 

[matteo773]

- that mercenary is not very apropriate, since it has no assegai and doesn't look very catalunian (or at least non-asian)

- there's a flamethrower in ptw ? Where ?

In the extra files somewere i think...

- does wyrm have a missile shooting submarine ?

Several! I think you can find the link in the unit artist's library; if not I can send you them (Ihave most of them)

The sounds in the roman cavalry file seem to be not there.... as well as the ini's title...

 

[Heretic_Cata]

Several! I think you can find the link in the unit artist's library; if not I can send you them (Ihave most of them)

I'll take a look in his library soon. And post if i find what i was looking for.

The sounds in the roman cavalry file seem to be not there.... as well as the ini's title...

OMG
I put ares' modified ini file in my attach, it solves the sound problems too.
I'm gonna make a patch tomorrow in the afternoon, kuz i found another unit with missing sounds (actually with a wrong ini file ... i'll try to find the files now...)

 

[Heretic_Cata]

Ok, i have NO IDEA how the guys at this thread got the darn thing to work.
The ini file is screwed , it's not pointing properly to the right wav files.
Can anyone please modify it till 15 hours from now ? (it's in the attachment) I have to go to sleep now, and then to the final school day before the 1 week Easter break.
Ares, could you please modify it (i saw you modified the roman cavalry's ini) or anyone else that knows what he is doing.

EDIT: after some trial&error i figured it out, yey, i learned smthing new.

 

[Mirc]

A lot of things happened here while I didn't have my computer.

I will dl the new stuff.