That did the trick Thanks for all your help and patience. Hopefully I can pass this on to the next newbie trying to enjoy everyone's here talents. Just being curious, do you know of a visual script that makes gunfire flash or smoke? Just seeing the rifles jerk isn't very real. They have it in Civ5 and show arrows actually flying. To bad Steam screwed the game up so badly. It did have some good elemtents but I guess Civ4 s my last game. Thanks again for being such a patient teacher!