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HOF Version 3 - "Test Run"

Discussion in 'Civ3 - PBEM Games' started by eric_A, Oct 7, 2009.

  1. Lanzelot

    Lanzelot Moderator Moderator

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    No action. GPS to muzbang.
     
  2. muzbang

    muzbang Prince

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    Tokyo :
    units bombarded by US ships and US planes, all reduced to 1 HP;
    US Bombers kills 2 citizens,
    and destroyed university, Stock exchange and commercial dock.
    1 plane shot down by flack

    US Marine kills inf.div
    US Marine kills inf.div
    US Marine kills cav
    US Marine kills cav

    Workers captured near Tokyo


    Many roads bombarded near Formosa,, Suchow, Siam, Seoul.
     
  3. Knutis

    Knutis Emperor

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    GPS

    Manila:
    IJN DD sinks CW FT
    IJN DD sinks CW FT

    Outside Singapore
    IJN FT sinks sub
     
  4. Lanzelot

    Lanzelot Moderator Moderator

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    Worker tries to repair road to Rostov, but runs into a partisan. A Panzer div takes care of that.

    3 HA damage Bryansk Front to 13/15.

    4 HB and a MB try to damage roads near Gorki and Saratov, but 2 miss and 2 are shot down.

    Tiger Corp kills Cavalry S of Voronezh.

    2FA bombard militia S of Moscow, Panther Corp kills one.

    Panzer Corps kills T34 Corps near Maikop.
     
  5. eric_A

    eric_A Deity

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    Voronezh:
    Bombardment by 1 HA, 6 FA, 1 fighter, 4 MB 1 FB
    destroys walls damages 1st Panzerarmee, Tiger Korp and Panther Korp
    Bryansk front (7/15) kills 1st Panzerarmee and Tiger Korp
    3rd Siberian front loses to Panther korp, but reduces Panther to 2 HP
    2nd Ural Front (10/13) kills Panther, FD & ID
    2 T-34s kill 2 FA
    City Falls, 3 HA captured

    Tula:
    Walls destroyed by HA

    Airfield W of Maikop:
    XIV Panzer Korp bombarded by 3 DD, 1 CA, 1 DB reduced to 4/8
    T34/84 army (1/6) kills Panzer Korp
     
  6. aksully

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    Greetings All from HOT 'Bama!! I have the save and will complete and pass it along a little later this evening! Cheers!

    Sully
     
  7. aksully

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    After years of Japanese Occupation of the China Mainland...Chinese troops have their first major victory as they attack Changsha and retake their city....:goodjob:

    At Changsha
    -5 Cannons and 2 B25s injure a IJA Infantry Div and Fortress Div
    -2 5/5 Chinese Inf Divs Kill both IJA units and Capture a Heavy Arty

    At Ichang
    -4 B25s damage IJA units in city...a B25 is lost to Flak

    At Canton
    -3 B25s damage IJA Units in city

    Java Sea Area
    -3 B25s and a TBD damage IJN Ships in port at Palembang

    GPS to CW
    Sully
     
  8. That-Guy

    That-Guy Warlord

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    Home Front:
    HB and Lanc destroy RR and R 2NE of Oslo.
    MB destroys road E of Salburg with aluminum.
    MB destoys road NW of Salzburg.

    DD destroys mountain road S of Narvik.

    Med:
    Lanc kills citizens in Malta.
    BB and Lanc redline Hungarian Corp in Malta.
    BB and CA redline ID.
    Marine Corp kills Hungarian Corp 6/7.
    Marine Corp kills ID 4/5 captures Malta.

    DD damages Corp in Rome.
    BB damages FD in Naples.
    TB destroys barracks in Taranto.
    TB damages FD in Taranto.
    HB destroys aluminum road N of Athens.
    HB reduces RR 2SW of Salzburg.
    Lanc destroys road.

    Asia:
    TB sinks DD near Manila.
    2TB sink Transport.
    2TB damage FT near Singapore.
    SS sinks one of them.
    3 B29 redline Type 5 Division on Philipines.

    BB redlines Palau Garrison.

    b29 damages units in Ichang.
    b29 kills citizens in Hanoi.
    3b29, 2MB damage units in Hanoi.
    b29 destroys road N of Singapore.
    b29 destroys road W of singapore.
     
  9. muzbang

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    US REPPORT

    Tokyo :

    US Ships bombard units to 1 HP in the city.
    Type 97 tank kills US inf. div, and promote (US ship re-bomb that unit to reduce to 1 HP)
    US inf. div kills Type 97 tank
    US inf Div kills palace guard
    US inf Div kills coastal defense
    US inf Div kills Flack and capture Tokyo


    Akita :

    US Ships bombed a ship in the city, US BB sink it by bombardement.
    Toyo hara garnison bombarded to 1 HP by US Ships, and destroyed by US marine.
    City captured

    Okinawa :

    2 cariers bombarded by US Ships,
    1 plane bombarded by US Ships, and destroyed by US Heavy bomber
    US heavy bombers hit units in the city (garnison, coastal defense, militia)
    1 heavy bomber shot down by flack
    1 citizen killed by US Heavy bomber
    US Dive bomber sinks 1 carrier

    US marine kills militia (2/2)


    Atlantic :

    U-boat bombarded by US ASW to 1 HP, and sunk by another ASW

    An iceberg sunk one of my ASW :mad:


    I will be in hollidays for 12 days... hope i won't slow the game to much...
     
  10. Knutis

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    Peking:
    IJA Inf Div loses to Rifle Corp
     
  11. Lanzelot

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    GPS to muzbang a few hours ago (civfanatics was down).
    Nothing to report.
     
  12. Lanzelot

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    Inf Corp marches into deserted Trondheim.

    2 FA bombard T34 Corp W of Voronezh, 3/4. 6th Army attacks and wins (18/18).

    HA bombards Mech Inf in Voronezh, 3/4. 6th Army attacks and kills T34 Corp (16/18).

    Guderian (21/23) kills militia, kills cavalry, kills Mech Inf div and retakes Voronezh without getting a scratch. Three HB try to bomb Far East Front (17/17), but one gets shot down and the other two miss. Guderian attacks anyway and -- looses?!?
    How can an attack-24 Army with 21 hitpoints loose to a defense-15 Army with 17 hitpoints???? And even score only 10:21??

    The German military command had enough of this incompetent Führer. Stauffenberg triggers Walküre and in a surprise turn of events succeeds this time! The Führer is dead, Goerdeler is proclaimed new Reichskanzler and offers immediate cease-fire and start of a peace conference to Stalin, Roosevelt and Churchill to bring this useless bloodshed to an end...
     
  13. eric_A

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    Lanzelot:
    The defense value of the Far East Front was 25% higher because
    it was fortified.

    I will confer with my allies about the peace conference.
     
  14. eric_A

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    Tula:
    Bombard by 7 HA reduces Panther Korp to 2/8 and FD to 3/5.
    T34/85 (4/4) finishes off Panther Korp

    Voronezh:
    Empty city captured by Rifle corp.

    1 tile W of Voronezh:
    6th Army bombarded by 3 HA, 6 FA, 3 MB, FB, reduced to 9/18.

    FB bombs RR near Minsk, fails.

    MB cuts Rostov-Charkiw road.

    Sebastapol:
    Inf. div. red lined by Black Sea Fleet.

    East of Novosibrisk:
    MB damages Japanese 6th army (9/13).

    Far East:
    Attack on Lanchow fails, rifle corp and Guerilla
    both killed by militias.
     
  15. aksully

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    At Canton
    -3 B25s Injure units occupying city
    -CID KIA by IJA Fort Div
    -1/5 CID Kills Fort Div
    -CID KIA by IJA Inf Div
    -2/4CID Kills IJA Inf Div
    -2/5 CID Kills IJA Inf Div
    Canton Recaptured!

    3 B25s Injure IJA units in Hanoi

    GPS to CW

    The decision to end the game I believe lies purely with the Axis Players. IF that is what you want to do then by all means. Both Eric and Muz are or are about to be away for vacation. So I'm sure they wouldn't mind. Over to you guys to tell us what you want to do. It has been a blast playing this game with you guys. I am onboard for starting a new game after the vacations if anyone is interested? I've never played the CW so would be positioning for them in a new game. Though I might add I'd like Eric to consider changing some of the Nature Units' effects. A Nauture unit should never be able to capture cities nor roam unchecked for months!! Not to mention Defense Factors way to high....Just my take and I hope we have a chance to discuss this subject before starting a new game. Cheers!

    Sully

    Sully
     
  16. That-Guy

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    Home Front:
    P51 shoots down Me109 near Paris.
    MB destroys road S of Koln.
    Lanc destroys barracks in Oslo.
    HB reduces RR to R N of Oslo.
    Lanc destroys road NE of Oslo in forest.
    MB damages ID NW of Salzburg.
    MB destroys Road.
    MB damages Militia NE of Koln.


    Med:
    HB and Lanc damage Marine Corps in N Africa.
    TB lost to flak over Taranto.
    Lanc destroys road NE of Rome.
    Lancs reduce RR and destroy R NW of Rome.
    BB destroys R NW of Taranto.
    BB destroys R N of Naples, Rome cut off from trade network.


    Asia:
    English recon out of Davao spots a lone Carrier few tiles W. TB's from Manila attack,
    one is shot down by flak. Another sinks it.
    Recon finds another carrier north of Davao.
    2 TB sink it.

    B29 destroys R S of Bangkok.

    B29 damages units in Ichang X 6.
    2 lost to flak.
    B29 destroys barracks.


    MB destroys walls to Rangoon.
    MB damages units in Rangoon X2.
    Lanc destroys bank.

    BB redlines Palau garrison.
    Royal Marines capture Palau 2/4.

    GPS to Lanzelot.

    I'm okay either way, I'm gonna be busy this next month though. One thing I've noticed playing single player as Japan is that SNLF with defense rating of 1 is much less useful with the nature units, can't do those early strikes cuz nature kills them and captures that city in a couple turns.
     
  17. aksully

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    Good point TG!! And I've argued (politely of course) for a much stronger Attack & Defense ratings for SNLFs for some time now. They were one of the most unique Japanese Units in WWII. Their offensive and defensive effectiveness was way out of proportion to their size in numbers. I maintain that they should be one of the strongest non-armor units in HOF!!! I keep hoping that Eric will give into me on this one of these years!!! :)

    Sully
     
  18. Lanzelot

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    Waiting for the things to come...

    GPS to muzbang

    I still need to wait for Knutis' opinion, but for me the situation now looks clear: hopeless, but not serious...

    • Japan is already half occupied by the US
    • Italy has no way to bring her troops into action and has to sit and wait where England will start the next attack
    • Germany has lost two important Armies in the last two turns plus a couple of Corps and is now facing an unstoppable Russian superiority of approx. 5 Armies to 1 and no time to rebuild the urgently needed defenses.

    In short: I think the game is decided now. If this were a game of chess, I would resign now.
     
  19. eric_A

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    The only problem I have with ending the game now is that there
    are 4 Japanese armies in Siberia east of Novosibrisk, and I would
    really like to fight out one last great battle.

    Sully - regarding your comment "nature units should never be able to capture
    cities"; the only way to ensure that would be to give them 0 attack factor,
    and then the AI would never move them out of the city they were produced in.
    One change is was thinking of making was to weaken the attack factors
    of the Malaria/Dengue units but make them invisible instead.

    SNLF - I think an attack factor of 4 very good for a unit of only 1200 men.
    The reason the defense is so low is because as elite Japanese troops they
    prefered to make suicidal attacks rather than defend fixed positions. If you
    use them to attack 1 tile islands like Guam and Tarawa they will never
    get eaten by bugs, because there are no bugs on those islands.
    No one ever mentions one of the best features of the SNLF, they are
    one of the few unit in the game that are airmobile
    , after they sieze
    an airbase you can fly them home for re-deployment.
     
  20. eric_A

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    I was thinking of adding mobile flak units like the one below,
    which would become available with the mobile war 3 tech.

    I was also thinking the following house rule would result in a more historical
    game:
    - No amphibious attacks on Antwerp or Vladivostok until 1943.
     

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