How Evolution is possible along with Christianity (A Thread for Christians)

Homie said:
And I hear you Elrohir, its really getting tiresome to debate it, same 'ol thing over again. It doesn't matter a great deal religiously, but it matters even less scientifically, so I really don't understand why atheists bother to debate it. I mean, does it matter if you are an evolutionist or creationist believing scientist when it comes to conducting science? You would perform experiments the same way and follow the scientific method the same way, your work would look the same.

I don't think most atheists really care what the religious believe - but it becomes an issue when they want creationism to be labelled as science and taught in science class.

Homie said:
So when making a drug or curing a disease, it doesn't matter one tid bit if the scientist believes the Bible or Darwin. Evolution or creationism has no practical implication, so why is evolution even taught in science class when it is of philosophical importance only? It should be taught in philosphy class.

The Theory of Evolution is the base upon which all of modern biology rests. All those cures and drugs? They wouldn't be possible without Evolution.
 
Masquerouge said:
If you can point me to active Christian Creationists groups outside the United States, I'd be delighted.
According to wikipedia:

Most vocal creationists are from the United States, and creationist views are much less common elsewhere in the Western World.

According to a PBS documentary on evolution, Australian Young Earth Creationists claimed that "five percent of the Australian population now believe that Earth is thousands, rather than billions, of years old." The documentary further states that "Australia is a particular stronghold of the creationist movement." Taking these claims at face value, Young Earth Creationism is very much a minority position in Western countries.

In Europe, creationism is a less well-defined phenomenon, and regular polls are not available. However, evolution is taught as scientific fact in most schools. In countries with a Roman Catholic majority, papal acceptance of evolution as worthy of study has essentially ended debate on the matter for many people. Nevertheless, creationist groups such as the German Studiengemeinschaft Wort und Wissen (Study group 'word and knowledge')[3] are actively lobbying in Germany; most people in this country, however, see evolution as scientific fact and do not believe in creationism. In the United Kingdom the Emmanuel Schools Foundation (previously the Vardy Foundation), which runs three government-funded 13 to 19 schools in the north of England (out of several thousand in the country) and plans to open several more, teaches that creationism and evolution are equally valid "faith positions". One exam board (OCR) also specifically mentions and deals with creationism in its biology syllabus [4]. However, this deals with it as a historical belief and addresses hostility towards evolution rather than promoting it as an alternative to naturalistic evolution. Mainstream scientific accounts are still expressed as fact. In Italy, the prime minister Silvio Berlusconi wanted to retire evolution from schools in the middle level; after one week of massive protests, he reversed his opinion. [5].

Of particular note for Eastern Europe, Serbia suspended the teaching of evolution for one week in 2004, under education minister Ljiljana Čolić, only allowing schools to reintroduce evolution into the curriculum if they also taught creationism. [6] "After a deluge of protest from scientists, teachers and opposition parties," says the BBC report, Ms Čolić's deputy made the statement, "I have come here to confirm Charles Darwin is still alive," and announced that the decision was reversed. [7] Ms. Čolić resigned after the government said that she had caused "problems that had started to reflect on the work of the entire government". [8]

In the United Kingdom a 2006 poll on the "origin and development of life" asked participants to choose between three different perspectives on the origin of life: 22% chose creationism, 17% opted for intelligent design, 48% selected evolution theory and the rest did not know. The poll had the effect of reinforcing a culture war false dichotomy on the subject in an attempt by the news organization to demonstrate the extent of the controversy. As the poll lacked nuanced survey techniques and equivocated on origin definitions as well as forced participants to make choices as though there were only three options, its results do not necessarily indicate the views of the general public concerning mainstream science or religious alternatives. [9][10]
It sounds as if Creationism is much less popular in Europe than in America. But I think saying that it's only an American issue is an exaggeration; there are clearly Creationists in other parts of the world, if in smaller numbers than in America. And apparently there is a German Creationist Movement.

Thanks Pboily, Homie, it's nice to know some people are as sick of all the fighting as I am.
 
Our ability to genetically understand, track, and potentially cure or mitigate the avian flu is a good example of and invention that has come from the science of biology, including genetics.

Taken from the standpoint of evolutionary biology, the avian flu is just another genetic variation vying for its survival by being naturally selected for/against. The same could be said of the bubonic plague or AIDS or any other disease agent.

What would be the corresponding young earth creationist view? Were all of these disease agents created 6,000 years ago along with all of the other life forms? Have they been biding their time for 6,000 years waiting for the right time to cause massive human death? Surely they cannot be attributed to the devil or some response to man's sins if they were part of the original creation?
 
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