ok i just discovered that even with a friggin' dualcore 2.0 GHz powermac G5, civ 4 will still be basically unplayable for any practical purposes, so i am going to see about getting a refund on that piece of garbage and get civ 3 complete. question: will THIS be able to be played on my machine? i remember playing civ 3 on my parent's pentium 2 on a large map with not too bad of a lag until modern era. please say that this will work.
how will this be?
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well i use my mac for pro audio, and i have an emac that i use for internet etc.. but it is only a single G4 and will not cut it so i figured i would play it on my powermac. and it looks like i posted this in general discussion instead of macintosh forum...sorry. how do i move it? and i've only got 1.5 gigs of ram right now but i will be putting it up to at least 4 gigs soon.
I don't know macs (Thankfully) so I can't say if a DualCore 2.0ghz G5 is better than a Pentium II (Probably not. 
) but I would say that it should be enough.
) but I would say that it should be enough.Don't worry man you'll be stylin! I got a less impressive stack and when it comes to wait times were talkin mybe thirty seconds max (time during inter-turn were it says please wait), the max time coming only way near the end and only on massive maps.
Right now Im playin on a 196x196 extra huge ( 36 x 36 expansion of Firaxis's 'huge' map) with twenty Civs. Im on turn 500 something. Its not the same for Vanilla or PtW they had major lag issues between turns.
Remember late in the game or on large map or plenty civs etc, to hold shift during Ai turns to make their troop movment go by in a blur. shift + Caps Lock if you need both hands to roll a smoke.
Whats good with this trick besides saving you countless minutes is it will skip past the boring stuff like AI worker moves and meanless marching but pause for the potentially strategic footage of AI vs AI bloodbaths that were censored in Civ4.
Ok heres the exceptions that make a turn go from 10 seconds ta 30 seconds or so. You got a mod thats got the slave feature activated and the AI is having a massacure at the moment, or THe AI pillage and town turnovers happen to pile up on a single turn by chance. otherwize smooth sailing unless you dare the MEGA GIGA!, over 220x220 or so, I can't promess nothing past that point but who knows till you try it.
Unit movement is flawless and crisp battle sequences and other animations a flow smoothly on any map size with however many Civs on the board
You will still have a 2-8 second pause depending on how late on a pillage or town takeover. Hope this is some help
later
Edit: Its a mac?... oh, that might change things. doubt it though, maybe its even less time between turns cause it was programmed later. IMO as for being more smooth, It can't get any more so then where its already at for the PC platform, but you can always hope I guess.
Right now Im playin on a 196x196 extra huge ( 36 x 36 expansion of Firaxis's 'huge' map) with twenty Civs. Im on turn 500 something. Its not the same for Vanilla or PtW they had major lag issues between turns.
Remember late in the game or on large map or plenty civs etc, to hold shift during Ai turns to make their troop movment go by in a blur. shift + Caps Lock if you need both hands to roll a smoke.
Whats good with this trick besides saving you countless minutes is it will skip past the boring stuff like AI worker moves and meanless marching but pause for the potentially strategic footage of AI vs AI bloodbaths that were censored in Civ4.
Ok heres the exceptions that make a turn go from 10 seconds ta 30 seconds or so. You got a mod thats got the slave feature activated and the AI is having a massacure at the moment, or THe AI pillage and town turnovers happen to pile up on a single turn by chance. otherwize smooth sailing unless you dare the MEGA GIGA!, over 220x220 or so, I can't promess nothing past that point but who knows till you try it.
Unit movement is flawless and crisp battle sequences and other animations a flow smoothly on any map size with however many Civs on the board
You will still have a 2-8 second pause depending on how late on a pillage or town takeover. Hope this is some help
later
Edit: Its a mac?... oh, that might change things. doubt it though, maybe its even less time between turns cause it was programmed later. IMO as for being more smooth, It can't get any more so then where its already at for the PC platform, but you can always hope I guess.
i hope you are kidding! dualcore G5 machines are top of the line. if you go into most graphics, video, and especially audio studios you will see them doing the work. not better than a pentium 2?!? hahahahaha an entry level G5 powermac right now is 2300$, i should hope they perform a little better than a pentium 2. but anyway, how do i get this thread moved, i doubt i will get any help here.
Drahkkael said:
Perhaps you missed the '
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meh
Drahkkael said:
You'd think Turner would've noticed this considering he quoted it.
Hey, I just woke up....
Well done, Turner 
Hi Drahkkael
welcome to the Macmadhouse. Join the soon-to-be growing band of refugees from Civ4 and its insane system requirements. However, with your system I have to say I'm surprised you are having trouble. What video card do you have? That seems to be key to a good experience. I hope you've checked out the Civ4 - Macintosh sister forum, where there are plenty of people working out the options and trying to find ways to get Civ4 to run on their kit. Some are even managing to play games with it 
Meanwhile, back in the 2D world of Civ3 Complete, you'll have an excellent experience with it on a G5. It probably won't exploit the second core, but that'll be available for other background processes like checking your mail, playing iTunes, etc. I can play it fine on my 1 GHz G4, so you'll have noooo problem. One note of warning is in order - we're waiting for a patch from Aspyr that seems to be taking the scenic route out of their software factory. Among other things it's hoped that it will fix the lack of unit activity sounds in-game ... Yes! Civ3 seems to have a similar gremlin to the one that kills unit sounds in Civ4!
Hi Drahkkael
welcome to the Macmadhouse. Join the soon-to-be growing band of refugees from Civ4 and its insane system requirements. However, with your system I have to say I'm surprised you are having trouble. What video card do you have? That seems to be key to a good experience. I hope you've checked out the Civ4 - Macintosh sister forum, where there are plenty of people working out the options and trying to find ways to get Civ4 to run on their kit. Some are even managing to play games with it Meanwhile, back in the 2D world of Civ3 Complete, you'll have an excellent experience with it on a G5. It probably won't exploit the second core, but that'll be available for other background processes like checking your mail, playing iTunes, etc. I can play it fine on my 1 GHz G4, so you'll have noooo problem
. One note of warning is in order - we're waiting for a patch from Aspyr that seems to be taking the scenic route out of their software factory. Among other things it's hoped that it will fix the lack of unit activity sounds in-game ... Yes! Civ3 seems to have a similar gremlin to the one that kills unit sounds in Civ4!
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Well, I have an AMD Duron 700 Mhz with 128 Mb of RAM and with GeForce 2 Abit graphics card, and it runs both Civ3 Complete and Civ4!Drahkkael said:
(but not that it would have any importance, I use Windows, not Mac)
1.29b uses both core well-balanced on my 2x1GHz G4. Compared to my 3GHz dual core Pentium, the Mac may be a little slower in some aspects, maybe not.AlanH said:
The Mac version - despite being labeled "beta" - definitely runs much more stable than the various PC versions.
The occasional lock-ups for extended periods of time are long gone with one of the OS X upgrades.
PS: And yes, get 1+GB of memory.
I have 1.8 GHz iMac - not as fast as your system, but it'd ridiculous how slow Civ 4 is. Then something happened - please see my full acount on this thread
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=177101
Basically, the game crashed out in the middle of play. It was maybe the 3rd or 4th time it crashed in the last 30 hours of play, but this time it was different. When I restarted Civ 4, all the performance problems disappeared. Everything was as smooth as butter (well, almost).
It lasted only about 3 hours before it got slow again, but it gives me hope that whatever is causing the slowness is fixable. I just saw how the game is supposed to play, but something is holding it back. The crash accidentally cleared it up, but that gives me hope that patch should remove whatever bottleneck exists that causes performance to suck so badly.
Moderator Action: Please don't use this forum to discuss Civ4 issues. We created the Civ4 - Macintosh forum for this purpose. Please use it
I've moved your other thread over there.
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=177101
Basically, the game crashed out in the middle of play. It was maybe the 3rd or 4th time it crashed in the last 30 hours of play, but this time it was different. When I restarted Civ 4, all the performance problems disappeared. Everything was as smooth as butter (well, almost).
It lasted only about 3 hours before it got slow again, but it gives me hope that whatever is causing the slowness is fixable. I just saw how the game is supposed to play, but something is holding it back. The crash accidentally cleared it up, but that gives me hope that patch should remove whatever bottleneck exists that causes performance to suck so badly.
Drahkkael said:
Moderator Action: Please don't use this forum to discuss Civ4 issues. We created the Civ4 - Macintosh forum for this purpose. Please use it
I've moved your other thread over there.
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