Humankind - Greeks discussion thread

[Siptah]

We do not even know the resources that exist in the game, so it might be too soon to complain that the Greeks do not have a science building as EQ.

What resources do we even expect? We saw food, production and science. People seem to expect culture, but that is so far still a shot in the dark, no? I guess there is some sort of happiness mechanic and that the Amphitheatron will have a positive effect on that, maybe among other things. EL has a diplomatic currency, influence, that I think is spicing things up quite nicely and I hope it makes a return in Humankind - but this just pure speculation, just like expecting culture or faith as resources.

 

[Catoninetales_Amplitude]

I guess it is save to confirm that no, the Amphitheatron is not a scientific emblematic quarter.

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

Funny that I like this version of Greece a little better than Civ's current version, just for the sole fact that they are more well rounded with the scientific bonuses and a non science EQ which I assume ties in to being aesthete or cultural.

 

[Boris Gudenuf]

Phalanx may have referred to the whole army in classical Greece, but that does not supersede roughly two millenia of semantic shift. In modern English parlance, "Phalanx" refers to a tight formation of infantry, usually armed with large shields and spears. Compare for example Merriam-Webster
So while we appreciate your input and desire for historically accurate terminology, in this case clarity to a wide audience wins out.

Understand, but just to note that if your audience was more knowledgable they'd be confused, since 'phalanx' was also used to refer to the infantry of Alexander's and his Successor's armies, who were all armed with pikes rather than spears.

The choice of amphitheatron for the EQ strikes me as a bit odd given the Scientist trait. I would have expected a gymnasium or academy.

The 'gymnasium' in classical Greece had nothing to do with Science, it was a training area for athletic and Hoplite skills - a Civ-equivalent to the Barracks rather than the Library.
And the 'Academy' of Plato was a single institution, located in an olive grove just outside the walls of Athens: it would be better as a National Wonder for Greece than a structure that could be built in multiple cities.

 

[pokiehl]

Understand, but just to note that if your audience was more knowledgable they'd be confused, since 'phalanx' was also used to refer to the infantry of Alexander's and his Successor's armies, who were all armed with pikes rather than spears.

The 'gymnasium' in classical Greece had nothing to do with Science, it was a training area for athletic and Hoplite skills - a Civ-equivalent to the Barracks rather than the Library.

And the 'Academy' of Plato was a single institution, located in an olive grove just outside the walls of Athens: it would be better as a National Wonder for Greece than a structure that could be built in multiple cities.

Regarding phalanx: A knowledgable audience would be able to identify that the game is appealing to lay people and using common definitions for clarity, I hope.

Regarding gymnasium and academy: Gymnasiums were centers for intellectual pursuits as well as exercise - Aristotle's Lyceum was a gymnasium. There were also multiple academies, not just Plato's first academy.

 

[Boris Gudenuf]

Off Topic, but I feel I have to apologize to everyone here: I let Real World interfere with my posts here, resulting in some erronious and downright snarky comments that I really regret.
By way of explanation, I live about 30 kilometers from Kent, Washington, the epicenter of the COVID-19 outbreak in the United States, and the site of (so far) the majority of deaths from the virus in this country. My wife goes to church just a few blocks from the affected Center. I had not realized how much the tension/stress was getting to me, and it came out here, which is inexcusable.

My apologies to all, and let's get back to a Plagueless (as far as we know!) Game . . .

 

[j51]

Off Topic, but I feel I have to apologize to everyone here: I let Real World interfere with my posts here, resulting in some erronious and downright snarky comments that I really regret.
By way of explanation, I live about 30 kilometers from Kent, Washington, the epicenter of the COVID-19 outbreak in the United States, and the site of (so far) the majority of deaths from the virus in this country. My wife goes to church just a few blocks from the affected Center. I had not realized how much the tension/stress was getting to me, and it came out here, which is inexcusable.

My apologies to all, and let's get back to a Plagueless (as far as we know!) Game . . .

Take care. That's gotta be stressful.

 

[Catoninetales_Amplitude]

Take good care of yourself and your family, Boris. Stay safe.