I need some help.

[downtown]

If you only did one delivery per trip, pizza would take over an hour to get to places. The gas expenses and inefficiency would be astounding.

Pizza guys are typically given 20 or 30 bucks in cash before they head out the door to start a shift, to make change. Customers often pay in cash, and if you have to make 3 or 4 trips per shift, you're carrying some serious dough before you get back.

Where I delivered pizza, we didn't "cash out" until the end of our shift, since it took a long time, and required a supervisor. On a busy night, I had over 600 bucks jammed in my pockets. In the more dangerous areas, drivers cash out more often, but they're still primo targets to get robbed.

 

[History_Buff]

Yeah, I've done surverying before, which is good for my field. I'm doing another telephone poll for the Democratic party, but the job only lasts 2 weeks. If the work was steady, I'd just do that.

Hah, not telephone surveys, Land Surveys. Theres bound to be firms hiring, particularly in summer. Thats when most construction work gets done, and they need surveyors like you wouldn't believe. Half the cribbers I've met can't even turn a good right angle

You get a lot of work concentrated in the summer, you get to be outside - usually in nice suburban neighborhoods, and spend a lot of time getting paid to sit in a truck

Where I delivered pizza, we didn't "cash out" until the end of our shift, since it took a long time, and required a supervisor. On a busy night, I had over 600 bucks jammed in my pockets. In the more dangerous areas, drivers cash out more often, but they're still primo targets to get robbed.

You guys don't just lock the cash somewhere discrete in your cars? Also, if you're using a car for business, you'll probably be able to write off the depreciation on it, as well as repairs, and save a couple bucks on your taxes.

 

[DNK]

Yeah, Papa John's requires that you cash drop every $50 or so. I carry more money in my wallet than I do for work.

Also, I'd agree not to deliver in dangerous areas. I live in a college town, and although there's some shady places, for the most part I feel safe. Some of the people, though, make me worry...

 

[DNK]

A bit more, since I didn't see the latest posts: $20 at the start of the night, but so many people around here pay with credit or checks that pocket cash rarely gets over $70-80 in any given delivery.

 

[soul_warrior]

pizza delivery sounds shaky.
we dont have that sort of thing round here (israel)

DJ - what i meant is NOT to become a full blown mobile jock (which is REALLY EXPENSIVE)
i meant you could pack some cds into a case and play at bars.

that is what i do for a side job.

and i have built up a reputaion locally, so am able to play basically whichever style i want.
which is anything from techno to worldmusic and gospel.
i play lots of rock nights (70s classic, 80s power groups, brit pop blues, and what not)
as long as the style is upbeat and friendly, you can work.
and the entrance fee is basically zero.

it does cost to keep up with the music, but as a musician i expect youre already doing that

it also means you have to push yourself for gigs, going through all the possible places to play, but you have experience with that too

in israel the going rate for a 4-5 hour set in a bar (the more dancy ones pay better) is about 100$
im guessing the US can offer a bit more.
set here start at 22.30? > last customer (3.00am midweek, 5ish on the week ends - which also pays more)

 

[downtown]

Hah, not telephone surveys, Land Surveys. Theres bound to be firms hiring, particularly in summer. Thats when most construction work gets done, and they need surveyors like you wouldn't believe. Half the cribbers I've met can't even turn a good right angle

You get a lot of work concentrated in the summer, you get to be outside - usually in nice suburban neighborhoods, and spend a lot of time getting paid to sit in a truck

You guys don't just lock the cash somewhere discrete in your cars? Also, if you're using a car for business, you'll probably be able to write off the depreciation on it, as well as repairs, and save a couple bucks on your taxes.

Now there is something I haven't thought of. Do I need to go for some kind of special training for that?

As for the car issue, sure, I can write off the wear on my car to some extent (not that I pay much in taxes), but the company isn't going to pay for a new transmision for me, and I can't sink 2,000 into my car.

Also, I'd agree not to deliver in dangerous areas. I live in a college town, and although there's some shady places, for the most part I feel safe. Some of the people, though, make me worry...

I *live* in a dangerous area. If I delivered in a place that wasn't so dangerous, my pay would plummet.

I might be in good shape, since my resume got some hits, and I got 2 interviews this week (and I am GOLD in the interview phase). Hopefully, I can use one of these jobs as leverage for a better job next summer.

 

[History_Buff]

Now there is something I haven't thought of. Do I need to go for some kind of special training for that?

Since I don't imagine you plan on moving up the ladder, no. And even then you could do without it. Most of what you do is carrying stuff, or holding a pole/plumbob level, and walking around. Dig holes to find property pins, hammer nails in the ground, write on stakes. They could teach it to you in all of an hour.

Most of the engineers here do it their first year, just because it doesn't require a whole lot of experience or education. Plus you might learn some stuff about Land Law, which might help, depending on where you want to end up in government.

 

[Perfection]

Have you considered selling crack?

 

[Hygro]

Have you considered selling crack?

maybe not
http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/view/id/29

 

[Hygro]

pizza delivery sounds shaky.
we dont have that sort of thing round here (israel)

DJ - what i meant is NOT to become a full blown mobile jock (which is REALLY EXPENSIVE)
i meant you could pack some cds into a case and play at bars.

that is what i do for a side job.

and i have built up a reputaion locally, so am able to play basically whichever style i want.
which is anything from techno to worldmusic and gospel.
i play lots of rock nights (70s classic, 80s power groups, brit pop blues, and what not)
as long as the style is upbeat and friendly, you can work.
and the entrance fee is basically zero.

it does cost to keep up with the music, but as a musician i expect youre already doing that

it also means you have to push yourself for gigs, going through all the possible places to play, but you have experience with that too

in israel the going rate for a 4-5 hour set in a bar (the more dancy ones pay better) is about 100$
im guessing the US can offer a bit more.
set here start at 22.30? > last customer (3.00am midweek, 5ish on the week ends - which also pays more)

I suppose. Club/bar DJing can be a hard game to get into so I haven't looked into that muhc myself. Coming from the DJ capital of the world (bay area) to DJ at most clubs takes connections or skill. But I don't know about bars and I don't know about Ohio. So maybe its a good call

 

[Perfection]

maybe not
http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/view/id/29

Yeah, but Eran could be the top guy with all his smarts!

 

[MadScotsMan]

Okay, so I need some ideas here.

Currently, I work for a catering company, while finishing up my undergrad. I get paid roughly 7.00 an hour. It smells, it has nothing to do with what i'm studying, and I don't *really* like it. I could put up with it though, if I got paid better. I will struggle to pay my rent and eat on 7.00 an hour, since i can't work full time. I'll sent out my resume, which is fairly strong actually, to all sorts of places, from paid-government jobs, to music promotions companies, even a modeling company, but I need a backup plan.

What I'm worried about here, is since i wont be able to make real money in my field (government) until after i graduate, I need to find a way to make more than 7.00 an hour this summer, so I can get some real savings. I figured one way I could do that is by enrolling in some sort of training program, so I can make more money during the summer, or spring semester.

the best case scenario is that one of the local music stores will let me rent studio space to give lessons. At 15 a half hour, even after storefront rent, I'll be doing better than I am now.

There are plently of wonderful goverment jobs that I could take, but most don't pay. The things I have done, like polling, research etc...typically only pay around 7.00

So what could I try to become trained in, or what could I do?

Say screw it and take up Holden Caulfield's ranch plan

Well that's my plan anyway

 

[Fifty]

I really think server is what you need. Based on the fact that you're in a band, do politics stuff, etc. etc. I'm sure you're personable enough to be a good server, and you're also good looking enough.

There are just so many freaking perks it is unbelievable.

With the exception of a well payed internship doing something closely related to what you want to do post-college, I'd say server is the way to go. You'll get free food, meet girls, and get more money than in almost any job. Plus if you get in at a good place you can learn how to be a wine snob.

If you have catering experience, but can't find a decent server job, you should also try hitting up local golf courses and hotels and seeing if they are looking for banquet staff. Banquet waiters at decent places make as much as servers. I made $25-$40 per hour in 11th grade doing banquets.

The hours are really good too. If you're not adverse to working when everyone else is having fun, telling the manager that you'd be very much willing to work friday nights and weekends may help you get a job, because many serves complain about working those nights because they'd rather be out partying. If you can work those days, its great too because those will be the busiest days.

And if you're really strapped for cash, donate your blood plasma or something.

 

[Ansar]

Yeah, but Eran could be the top guy with all his smarts!

Eran certainly does have the brains to do that sort of thing.

 

[Hygro]

Yeah, but Eran could be the top guy with all his smarts!

Eran certainly does have the brains to do that sort of thing.

Since when was this about Eran?

But as smart and educated as Downtown is (what that lecture doesn't meantion is that one of the regional directors who became a board member had an MBA before going back to the Ghetto), I think he lacks some of the street cred.

 

[Perfection]

You mean all Mormans aren't the same?

Sorry, Downtown. You and Eran are both filed in the "Cool Mormon" section of my brain, sometimes I pull the wrong file.

 

[Hygro]

heh, I file Downtown in the same place I put you.

 

[Perfection]

But as smart and educated as Downtown is (what that lecture doesn't meantion is that one of the regional directors who became a board member had an MBA before going back to the Ghetto), I think he lacks some of the street cred.

I didn't watch the lecture.

 

[downtown]

Since when was this about Eran?

But as smart and educated as Downtown is (what that lecture doesn't meantion is that one of the regional directors who became a board member had an MBA before going back to the Ghetto), I think he lacks some of the street cred.

Well, if there is one thing I learned from Freakonomics, it was that selling crack doesn't pay. (seriously, those dealers are making like, 3 bucks an hour).

And you're all right, I don't have the street cred to be a good drug dealer. However, I am still one of the most streetwise Mormons you're going to meet.

 

[Ansar]

Well, if you want to live with your mother, it could always be an option.