I need the kind of help that only a British person could give me.

[Traitorfish]

So we've had a Brazilian tell you to support Sunderland, a California tell you not to support Swansea...

Boy, if only we had any actual UK residents in this thread, dishing out pertinent, nay, sagacious advice, the kind you could really take to heart.

We can but dream.

 

[caketastydelish]

Is Catharsis British? His arguments were so convincing that it practically doesn't matter if he comes from an alien planet, but I'm curious.

 

[Lohrenswald]

Yeah, Manchester is about as liberal, educated and cultured a place as you'll get in the UK outside of London, and it comes with the additional bonus of being outside of London.

How's like Liverpool by comparison

 

[caketastydelish]

Based on what I hear it rains a lot in Liverpool (just like Seattle) but the rain is the least important element I'm afraid.

 

[Lohrenswald]

I didn't ask you

 

[W|M]

Chelsea if you don't mind people giving you **** for being a dirty bandwagoner.

Also for being a dirty racist

 

[caketastydelish]

If you read this very thread, racism is the very thing that made me want to leave Man united in the first place.

 

[EnglishEdward]

If you read this very thread, racism is the very thing that made me want to leave Man united in the first place.

The link below tells you who owns the clubs, mainly rich capitalists;
I am not going to comment on whether they are racist or not.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_owners_of_English_football_clubs

 

[Traitorfish]

How's like Liverpool by comparison

Liverpool has scousers in it, so: no.

 

[Arakhor]

Based on what I hear it rains a lot in Liverpool (just like Seattle) but the rain is the least important element I'm afraid.

It rains a lot anywhere on the western coast. It's what's known as the Atlantic Ocean hitting the hills.

Unfortunately, as I have zero interest in football of almost all kinds, I can't be of any further help.

 

[Mega Tsunami]

I am afraid there is only one club you can support – and that is Manchester United.

You are breaking football supporters rule #1 that once you are hooked on a team, no matter for what reason (glory hunting, uncle supporter, whatever) you remain a supporter of that team for life. End of.
You simply cannot change horses mid-stream no matter what.
And whatever team you wish to join now, may I suggest, will not want you as a supporter if you formerly supported another team. (especially United!).

This is how football works in England.

And all that about football hooligans was way back in the 90s, it simply doesn’t happen any more. Just about anyway. I struggle to remember the last time there was trouble at Old Trafford. And I am sure the very occasional minor scuffle that might happen, happens all over England.
That video you posted was some silly joke.

When I was last in Manchester on a United match day I saw a City shirted fan come into a pub with mostly United fans in it and no notice was taken at all.

You need to go to Russia nowadays if you want to see the proper hooligans you talk of.

However, I feel I need to correct something in your OP. Manchester United might have the city's name in their name, and their stadium is indeed in Manchester, but they're not really a Manchester club. People from there support City. The typical Man Utd fan hails from Surrey or Kent - well off, conservative counties south of London.

This is mind bogglingly wrong. Maybe in percentage terms there are more United fans from the south but that is only because there are so very, very many of them outside Manchester.

But in numbers, United fans far outweigh City fans in Manchester itself.

This from the Mirror is not absolute proof of what I say, but is pretty indicative:
If you add up the City and United shirts that were sold in Manchester last year,[2014/15] an enormous 95% were red - just 5% were sky blue.

(And this is despite the fact that only 10% of United shirts are sold in Manchester!)

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/row-zed/your-teams-supporters-really-from-5018590

 

[Lohrenswald]

Liverpool has scousers in it, so: no.

I've always thought of the two cities like essentially the same

the difference being only that liverpool being the

manchester by the sea

hhhahaiamsofunny

 

[Traitorfish]

The difference between Manchester and Liverpool is as follows,

Manchester has produced lots of great bands that nobody cares about,

Liverpool has produced one great band that nobody will shut up about,

And all else follows from there.

But in numbers, United fans far outweigh City fans in Manchester itself.

This from the Mirror is not absolute proof of what I say, but is pretty indicative:
If you add up the City and United shirts that were sold in Manchester last year,[2014/15] an enormous 95% were red - just 5% were sky blue.

(And this is despite the fact that only 10% of United shirts are sold in Manchester!)

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/row-zed/your-teams-supporters-really-from-5018590

That only tells you that more people are buying more United shirts in Manchester, which is only an indicator of local support if you assume that fans will buy shirts at identical rates and that they will only do so locally- if we rule out the possibility that United fans are more likely to buy shirts, and they are more likely to come from out of town to do so- and I don't think we can take that for granted.

A surer measure of local support is stadium size, and while United's 75,000-seater stands above City's 55,000-seater, it suggests a 57:43 split, or 1.3 United fans for every City fans, which is not really all that dramatic.

 

[caketastydelish]

If even the Brits don't know their own country and are arguing with each other, the other posters definitely don't know.

As stated before, now I am more confused than ever. So many people have suggested so many different teams that I've lost count.

 

[Traitorfish]

If you're not already familiar with the major English teams, why does it matter which one you support? Just pick the one with the nicest shirt.

 

[W|M]

The shirts change every year, though, so that might not be as much help as you think

 

[caketastydelish]

That's a valid point, if true. Of course the shirt doesn't matter to me anyway.

 

[Traitorfish]

That's a valid point, if true. Of course the shirt doesn't matter to me anyway.

You don't like violence, you don't care about shirts. I don't think you understand football at all.

 

[caketastydelish]

I have just a little bit of bisexual tendencies, and I'd be perfectly happy if they played shirtless. The ancient Greeks did the Olympics completely in the nude. They would definitely get more ratings if they played shirtless, and this would make up for their loss of sponsorship deals.

 

[Arakhor]

Shirtless football? Whatever next? :