Idea: Saboteur?

[fuzzy_bunnies]

This was triggered by another thread talking about defending against a stack of assassins that keep killing your catapults. That always was a bit irritating because I just picture a guy in a cloak stabbing at a piece of wood.

Then I remembered that assassins will no longer kill ships in port etc... which then led me to think, why not have a saboteur unit? This would be closer to the old school spy...

Make assassins no longer kill siege weapons but add a saboteur unit that targets siege weapons, ships in port, airships, as well as a small chance to be able to destroy a building (ie city walls) if used against an enemy city...

Thoughts?

 

[[to_xp]Gekko]

totally agreed! btw, I think that assassins and other units with the marksmen promotion should not target "the weakest unit" , but units with channeling/hero promotions instead. that way they'd be no longer tricked and waste time killing scouts and warriors ( it sounds as a cheap workaround to me ) . you'd probably have to make guardsman easier to get then ( combat I maybe? ) and maybe a national limit of 12 for assassins to keep them from being overpowered I guess.

 

[steampunk1880]

I understand that in the middle ages it was hard to keep a large network of spies and assassins running without betrayal and other nasty occurrences. Making assassins/shadows a national unit: it's a good thing. Perhaps Svartalfar hunting lodges (+1 each) and/or the Eyes and Ears network raises this number (+4)

 

[deadliver]

I like this idea but i think it should be extended to reducing the hammers built for buildings too. How would you defend against these guys? Using see-invis units?

 

[Arcite36575]

I don't like this idea. We don't need a unit that's THAT specialized. With a saboteur in the second half of the game, I could only basically use it attack catapults. The game doesn't need any more redundant units for the sake of making the game (and the AI) more complicated and confused.

 

[deadliver]

well then how about as a function that assassins have? hate the unit, but what do you think about sabotage?

 

[fuzzy_bunnies]

Well, the idea would be that the saboteur has a chance to attack buildings. Maybe make them HN by default like the original spies. I used to use them to bomb city walls and other defense buildings before trying to crack a big city. Granted, there are a lot more ways to damage enemy units here than just brute force attacks...