Ideas for C2C

[Brackenspore]

ACNP Propulsion
Micro Black Hole Power (Project)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micro_black_hole
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_hole_starship
Free Great Scientist and Great Engineer (For Creator)
Enables Micro Black Hole Power Plant (For all Players)
180000
Micro Black Hole Power Plant (National Wonder)
+10 , +25
+15% in All Cities
-20% Maintenance in All Cities
Provides Power
90000

 

[pepper2000]

I am working on a Friedlander SkyShade at Planetary Defenses. Its main purpose is to protect against natural (and unnatural) disasters from the Sun. One trouble is that we already have a lot of defensive buildings, particularly at Advanced Shielding, and I also envision a Subterranean City at Subterranean Exploration which gives Nuke protection. I don't want to overdo it on defenses. As far as asteroid impact mitigation goes, that should probably come earlier than Planetary Defenses. Maybe Ion Beams.

Black holes are a good idea (for the game; in actuality, I try to keep away from black holes). I am working on a Kugelblitz Power Plant at Singularity Stabilization, together with a Kugelblitz Factory that might produce a new Kugelblitz bonus. It's fun to say Kugelblitz. The power plant would be a regular building rather than a wonder, and I might restrict it to Interstellar Colonies (imagine the NIMBYs).

 

[Brackenspore]

I am working on a Friedlander SkyShade at Planetary Defenses. Its main purpose is to protect against natural (and unnatural) disasters from the Sun. One trouble is that we already have a lot of defensive buildings, particularly at Advanced Shielding, and I also envision a Subterranean City at Subterranean Exploration which gives Nuke protection. I don't want to overdo it on defenses. As far as asteroid impact mitigation goes, that should probably come earlier than Planetary Defenses. Maybe Ion Beams.

Black holes are a good idea (for the game; in actuality, I try to keep away from black holes). I am working on a Kugelblitz Power Plant at Singularity Stabilization, together with a Kugelblitz Factory that might produce a new Kugelblitz bonus. It's fun to say Kugelblitz. The power plant would be a regular building rather than a wonder, and I might restrict it to Interstellar Colonies (imagine the NIMBYs).

ok, good

 

[Brackenspore]

Gaia Ecology
Enables: Geophysiology Lab (Building), Gaia Traces (World Wonder)
Geophysiology Lab
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geophysiology
+8 , +5%
-100.00 for building maintenance
Can turn 1 Citizen into Scientist
+2 with Terra Computer
+2 with Sentient Earth
+2 with Weather Control
+2 with Extraterrestrial Agriculture
20 Education/Turn
Requires Organic Computers
Requires Cybernetic Organ Lab
Requires City Size of at least 13
10000
Gaia Traces (World Wonder)
+2 , +2 , +2 (Great Scientist)
Starts a Golden Age
+3 from each Wonder of Nature
+3 from each Wonder of Nature
+10 , , , , from each Wonder of Nature
Requires Geophysiology Lab
Requires City Size of at least 13
75000

 

[Brackenspore]

Utopia Destiny
Enables: The City of the Sun (World Wonder)
The City of the Sun
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_City_of_the_Sun
+2 , +2 (Great Artist)
Starts a Golden Age
+10% in All Cities
-30% Civic Upkeep
+100% Birth Rate
+3 with Paradise
30 Education/Turn
Requires City Size of at least 13
66666

 

[Brackenspore]

Human Transmutation
Enables:Amphibian Settler (Unit), Sandman Settler (Unit), Iceman Settler (Unit)
Amphibian Settler
10
Can found a New City on Coast, Continental Shelf, Deep Coast, Deep Sea, Lake, Lake Shore, Marsh, Ocean, Ocean Trench, Sea, Tropical Coast, Tropical Ocean tiles
10680
Sandman Settler
10
Can found a New City on Desert, Dunes, Muddy tiles
10680
Iceman Settler
10
Can found a New City on Ice, Polar Coast, Polar Ocean tiles
10680

 

[tmv]

Cities on water is a topic of its own, that seems to be (at least right now) beyond the scope of this mod. The idea is rather old, but it will take a long time to happen.

Regarding the place in the tech tree, I don't think humans need to become amphibian to colonize the sea. Technology based settling could occur much earlier.

 

[pepper2000]

I would love to see ocean cities, but I'm not planning on attempting that. In the meantime, I do have a couple of synthetic ocean surface and deep sea colonies under development (at Marine Architecture and Abyss Colonization respectively) that can be built in coastal cities. At Human Transmutation, I plan on adding a Human Mod (which I am developing using the Culture mechanism) that allows underwater breathing, thereby greatly improving the performance of underwater cities.

Now that I think about it, now that we have terrain types, I don't think the mechanism for an ocean city would be fundamentally different from that for space colonies.

There are some interesting concepts out there on colonization of Antarctica, which might become an attractive place to live if global warming gets out of control. As far as deserts, there are some proposals for terraforming them using engineered bacteria, atmospheric water generators, and other technologies. Even millennia past, humans managed to live in deserts and Ice Age Siberia, though building prosperous cities is another matter.

 

[Thunderbrd]

Toffer, DH and I were working on depth layering of water tiles and submergence rules. I don't expect a full manifestation of all that the version cycle after the next but I've already done a lot more for this version than expected and still have yet to cap it off with a lot of AI work (and some immediate xml efforts coming right up.) Anyhow, the longer I'm working on this project, the more 'a long ways off' doesn't feel so far away.

 

[Brackenspore]

Algebra
Enables: Great Work: One Thousand and One Nights (World Wonder)
Great Work: One Thousand and One Nights
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Thousand_and_One_Nights
+2 , +6 , +2 (Great Artist)
+10% in All Cities
+2 Free Artist
Requires Culture (Sassanian) or Culture (Persian)
4000
Organic Chemistry
Enables: Great Work: The Periodic Table (World Wonder)
Great Work: The Periodic Table
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Periodic_table
+8 , +2 (Great Scientist)
+30%
+3 from Scientist in All Cities
Requires Culture (Russian)
6000
Romanticism
Enables: Great Work: On War (World Wonder)
Great Work: On War
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_War
+5 , +2 (Great Scientist)
1 Free Great General
+30% Great General Emergence
-50% to Upgrade Units
Requires Culture (Prussian)
15500

Comment: I think Culture (Prussian) must be Military Science tech not Romanticism tech, because Prussian was supermegahyper military country.

 

[Brackenspore]

Pop Art
Enables: Great Work: Playboy (World Wonder)
Great Work: Playboy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Playboy
+2 , +9 , +2 (Great Artist)
+5% Birth Rate in All Cities
Free Modeling Agency in All Cities
+4 with Democracy
Requires Culture (American)
42350
Poetry
Enables: Great Work: The Kama Sutra (World Wonder)
Great Work: The Kama Sutra
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kama_Sutra
+2 , +4 , +2 (Great Artist)
+1 in All Cities
+1 in All Cities
Requires Culture (Indian)
4840
Modern Art
Enables: Great Work: Bondiana (World Wonder)
Great Work: Bondiana
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Bond
+5 , +2 (Great Spy)
1 Free Great Spy
Provides 2 Hit Musicals, +1
Provides 2 Hit Singles, +1
Provides 2 Hit Movies, +1
-1000000000 Crime in this City
Requires Culture (English)
40000

 

[Brackenspore]

Romanticism
Enables: Great Work: The Song of Hiawatha (World Wonder)
Great Work: The Song of Hiawatha
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Song_of_Hiawatha
+8 , +2 (Great Artist)
No in this City
+2 from Artist in All Cities
Requires Culture (Iroquois)
19800
Philosophy
Enables: Great Work: Elements (World Wonder)
Great Work: Elements
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euclid's_Elements
+5 , +2 (Great Scientist)
+10%
Workers build improvements +15% faster
Requires Culture (Greek)
901
Engineering
Enables: Great Andean Road (World Wonder)
Great Andean Road
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inca_road_system
+3 , +3 , +2 (Great Engineer)
+1.50 from Paved Roads
+2 Trade Routes
+35% Trade Route Yield
Requires Culture (Incan)
1060

 

[Brackenspore]

Propaganda
Enables: Great Work: I Am Prepared to Die (World Wonder)
Great Work: I Am Prepared to Die
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Am_Prepared_to_Die
+2 , +6 , +2 (Great Statesman)
+1 in All Cities
-30% War in All Cities
+3 with Democracy
+10 with Pacifism
Requires Culture (South African)
8904
Musical Notation
Enables: Great Work: Umhlanga (World Wonder)
Great Work: Umhlanga
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umhlanga_(ceremony)
+2 ,+2 , +5 , +2 (Great Artist)
+1 Population in All Cities
Requires Culture (Swazi) or Culture (Zulu)
932
Grand War
Enables: Great Work: Law of the Splintered Paddle (World Wonder)
Law of the Splintered Paddle
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kānāwai_Māmalahoe
+3 , +2 (Great Statesman)
1 Free Great Statesman
-20% War in All Cities
10 Education/Turn
Requires Culture (Hawaiian) or Culture (Polynesian)
3137

 

[Brackenspore]

Alchemy
Enables: Great Work: Kabbalah (World Wonder)
Great Work: Kabbalah
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kabbalah
+10 , +6 , +6 , +2 (Great Scientist)
Free Alchemist’s Lab in All Cities
20 Education/Turn
Requires Culture (Israeli)
1060
Pop Art
Enables: Great Work: Manga (World Wonder)
Great Work: Manga
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manga
+2 , +10 , +2 (Great Artist)
Free Comicbook Store in All Cities
+3 from Animation Studio
Requires Culture (Japanese) or Culture (Yamato)
42350

 

[Dancing Hoskuld]

We did have Inuksuk in the game. Not sure what happened to it.

 

[Brackenspore]

Economics
Enables: Hudson's Bay Company (World Wonder)
Hudson's Bay Company
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hudson's_Bay_Company
+10 , +4 (Great Merchant)
+5% in All Cities
+3 from Beavers
Ice, Tundra, Permafrost, Forest Tiles: +1
Can turn 2 Citizens into Merchant
Free Merchant
Requires Culture (Canadian)
2204
Expressionism
Enables: Great Work: The Scream (World Wonder)
Great Work: The Scream
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Scream
+1 , +10 , +2 (Great Artist)
Free Great Artist
+3 from Art Gallery
10 Tourism/Turn
Requires Culture (Norwegian)
6805
Realism
Enables: Great Work: Lakalaka (World Wonder)
Great Work: Lakalaka
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lakalaka
+2 , +8 , +2 (Great Artist)
Starts a Golden Age
+35% Golden Age Length
Requires Culture (Tongan)
4155

 

[Dancing Hoskuld]

On some of these wonders you might want to suggest that they could be build by a Great Person. They can almost always be built by a Great Engineer because that is what he does, but some could be done by other GP also.

For example a Great Artist could build "The Scream" or "Lakalaka" while the Great Prophet or Great Scientist or both could build "Kabbalah".

 

[Brackenspore]

On some of these wonders you might want to suggest that they could be build by a Great Person. They can almost always be built by a Great Engineer because that is what he does, but some could be done by other GP also.

For example a Great Artist could build "The Scream" or "Lakalaka" while the Great Prophet or Great Scientist or both could build "Kabbalah".

Yes, it is insignificantly. Main idea - these WW are tied to specific culture.

 

[Faustmouse]

I like the idea of great works. Actually, I was thinking some time ago that it would be cool if certain wonders could only be built by a great person. Theory of Evolution, Theory of Everything etc by great Scientists; these wonders here by great Artists...

 

[tmv]

This looks like a return to vanilla in some ways. Is it really necessary to make these works rely on one culture? I have the feeling that this is totally against the spirit of C2C, which will become even more apparent when the present cultures are completely gone, as seems to be the (long-term) direction of the mod.

Another reason why this might not be a good idea is the fact that this system of great works can never be extended beyond our present era.