iEspaa es numero dos!(Spain is number two)

[Red Door]

Which Spanish are you learning? Because, in Spain, there's 4/5? versions of it there. Castellano, Catalan, Gallego, and Vasco. I'm forgetting one, it'll come back to me, I really hope.

Also, in Spain they use the vosotros form (2nd Person - Plural) and it's extra forms to learn.

But, I'm sure Spain is a beautiful country, I've never been there myself, but I want to, it's got a rich history and it's on the Mediterranean.

 

[brachy-pride]

By spanish I guess he means castillian, which is what is spoken in all of Spain, and its former american colonies.

Castillian was the original name of the language, since it was the language spoken in the kingdom of Castilla (I think it called Castile in english)
But once Castilla became hegemonic, and the language spreaded all over Spain, the language started to be called Spanish.

Learning vosotros isnt that complicated, it is like learning to use thou in english

 

[Trajan12]

Which Spanish are you learning? Because, in Spain, there's 4/5? versions of it there. Castellano, Catalan, Gallego, and Vasco. I'm forgetting one, it'll come back to me, I really hope.

Also, in Spain they use the vosotros form (2nd Person - Plural) and it's extra forms to learn.

But, I'm sure Spain is a beautiful country, I've never been there myself, but I want to, it's got a rich history and it's on the Mediterranean.

Castillian

I've learned the vosotros

It is, you should go!

 

[Red Door]

Castillian

I've learned the vosotros

It is, you should go!

Castillian = Castellano in Spanish. I forgot the English equivalent.

 

[MamboJoel]

It's cool you (@trajan) like Spain. For your personal construction and open mindness I really wish you could spend more time in Spain : would help you get out of the obscure conservatism you tend to rally most of the time.
Though I think America in its great diversity alone has of course enough to provide you the emancipation everybody would need.
But to be redundant : travel is everything.
Travel more.

 

[Trajan12]

It's cool you (@trajan) like Spain. For your personal construction and open mindness I really wish you could spend more time in Spain : would help you get out of the obscure conservatism you tend to rally most of the time.
Though I think America in its great diversity alone has of course enough to provide you the emancipation everybody would need.
But to be redundant : travel is everything.
Travel more.

I have liberal views, like..that..one thing,when I said...

Anyway! I've been to countries in Europe and overall Spain is the best.*

Italians often come over without warnings, Portugal is too laid back, France is France(J/K) Come one, you know us Americans like to take stabs at France, it's all ok though.

Spain is a nice mix of everything I like in Europe.

*I notice you are from France.

 

[Ansar]

Oh, you're learning Castellian? Nevermind then, your a loser! j/k

Im not a big fan of Castellian. It's the one type of Spanish I dont like (mainly because of the accent). I speak the spanish that most spanish speakers speak, which is the one that doesent use vosotros, and instead uses nosotros.

 

[Eran of Arcadia]

I am a huge hispanophile, but far more for the New World (especially Mexico). I have little interest in Spain (as much as any country, I suppose) except as how it influenced Latin America.

 

[Trajan12]

Oh, you're learning Castellian? Nevermind then, your a loser! j/k

Im not a big fan of Castellian. It's the one type of Spanish I dont like (mainly because of the accent). I speak the spanish that most spanish speakers speak, which is the one that doesent use vosotros, and instead uses nosotros.

I though vosotros and Nosotros were two diferent things?

 

[Ansar]

Yea...two different things.

We replaced vosotros with ustedes, not nosotros. Sorry.

 

[Eran of Arcadia]

No, vosotros is replaced by ustedes, which is very different from nosotros.

At any rate, I speak Spanglish, and I also know lots of pochismos.

 

[Ansar]

No, vosotros is replaced by ustedes, which is very different from nosotros.

I edited my post before your comment...

What are pochismos?

 

[Eran of Arcadia]

Like Elta said, when an English word is Hispanicized by Hispanics in the US. Like parquear for "park", or troca for truck, etc.

 

[Ansar]

Oh, I say words like that all the time.

My family sometimes makes a joke by using one of them.

 

[Trajan12]

Yea...two different things.

We replaced vosotros with ustedes, not nosotros. Sorry.

In Argentina they say vos. Just felt like showing off my knowledge.

 

[Elta]

I though vosotros and Nosotros were two diferent things?

Vosotros lieterally means You others (Y'all if you will) (If you don't use it would be Ustedes)
Nosotros is Us others

Vo is used as you in Argentina all the time (I have family from there)
NM just look at the wiki artical - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voseo

I would recomend only calling someone Vo if you allready know them. Vos or Tu is also okay. Never use Usted (talking about mexicans here) unless it's a professinal situation (or a very old person). You will allmost never see anyone in Mexico use Usted unless they are in school or at work.

-Vo and Vos might also make you look extra educated to mexican people "oh he studyed Spanish in Mexico - how charming etc etc"

 

[Trajan12]

And vosotros/ustedes conjugations are

Ar ER Ir
ais eis is
?​

 

[Elta]

And vosotros/ustedes conjugations are

Ar ER Ir
ais eis is
?​

I am not sure what you mean but, if you want me to break it down

Voce is you in portuguse and numors other Iberian languages etc etc
Vo = you
Ortos is others
You others

Remember I coasted through spanish class with a C and my spelling sucks because I am thinking of spelling is english style.

 

[Trajan12]

I am not sure what you mean but, if you want me to break it down

Voce is you in portuguse and numors other Iberian languages etc etc
Vo = you
Ortos is others
You others

Remember I coasted through spanish class with a C and my spelling sucks because I am thinking of spelling is english style.

What I'm saying is when you conjugate verbs in Spanish, That is how it would turn out.

Hablar- to speak

I also didn't pay much attention in Spanish, regretting it.
Hablais-You (all) speak

 

[Elta]

What I'm saying is when you conjugate verbs in Spanish, That is how it would turn out.

Hablar- to speak

I also didn't pay much attention in Spanish, regretting it.
Hablais-You (all) speak

Hablais would just be you speak - Vos Hablais,
You all speak would be Usteds (or Vosotros) Hablan
Ustedes Hablan (either that or I just don't speak properly ....which wouldn't suprise me )